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JG 4th October 2014 17:59

Would love to say "yes please" to that but I've got a Daytona bodykit to sort out first and its a long term project. I just wish I had unlimited space and funds to do all the builds I want. The AF is such a good looking car though, it deserves to make a come back.

John

micky1mo 4th October 2014 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG (Post 60252)
Would love to say "yes please" to that but I've got a Daytona bodykit to sort out first and its a long term project. I just wish I had unlimited space and funds to do all the builds I want. The AF is such a good looking car though, it deserves to make a come back.

John

Know how you feel but pennies are tight.
Got to sort out the Sammio Spyder moulds first, followed by the A1 Alpha moulds, then may-be the AF Sports :eusa_liar:

micky1mo 21st October 2014 18:07

Still waiting for the Pilot/Spyder moulds to be dispatched from the old Ribble HQ so in the mean time the A1 Alpha has been moved forward.

Last week I delivered a Spitfire to Chris and Dan @ Tribute Automotive to be used as a dummy for the A1 Alpha.

To my surprize they email me today with a whole bunch of photos.

I wanted it to be built in the same way as there A352 for several reasons
1, it's a quick simple build
2, it uses most of the cars original body work so less effort required by the builder.
3, as the new body is placed over the top of the original body/floor pan so every thing should line up better.
4, all the original seats, wiring, clocks ect are left undisturbed and all fit as they should.
5, at no time during the build is the car disabled, so it can be driven in and out of the garage while it's being built.

Here's a few photos

The original Spitfire ( keep your eye off the "D" type in the back ground it's mine)
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps92661522.jpg
The cut down body
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psfdfa63b9.jpg

Where the cuts where made
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps715b85e9.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7209d418.jpg
The body in place
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2018b301.jpg
Where it fits
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68e381a3.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0d796830.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps207ac6fc.jpg

Not a bad fit at all :nod:
Looks pretty good in my opinion.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps062676e1.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps75dd54aa.jpg

This is what Chris had to say about it.


First batch of pics attached. The A1 looks the dogs doodahs on the
spitfire!! The front edge of the bonnet opening will need enlarging to
access rad and raising to clear six pot, but everything else fits a
treat. Have moved the petrol tank down and back to get the rear end
down. The seating position vs the side depth of body means you are sat
right down inside, not sat on top like the Sammio's. I almost want one
myself, but maybe on a Reliant SS1, with a bigger engine.....

Regards Chris.

Note it's built to run with 14" wire wheels running 175/70/14" tyres right from the start so no nasty surprizes later.

All-in-all we think it's coming along nicely :flame: :flame:

Paul L 22nd October 2014 07:23

Mike – I’ve always liked the Tribute A352 build approach. :cool:
So I think the Alpha A1 will make a great addition to your Sammio range.
I am convinced that the “easier” the build, the wider the potential market will be.
Good luck, Paul. :)

davecymru 22nd October 2014 09:08

Looking very nice!
I have to ask what that Red/Purple kit in the background is? As i notice that the bulkhead is already bonded in place! Is that an A352 body with a Sammio bonnet?

Viatron 22nd October 2014 09:33

Dave the Red body in the background is the original Navigator MKII Buck, although after speaking to Mike I think it must have been stored on its corner as its twisted like a pretzel :-(

Mac

micky1mo 29th June 2015 20:02

It's been a while but I finally spent some time (well several days) with Chris and Dan at TRIBUTE HQ working on the A1 Alpha.

It the past the body was stretched and widened to fit the Spitfire chassis so It was just a case of continuing the work already started.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psidsxuv9k.jpg

You will notice the rear baulk head is tall and round this is to make the seating position look lower and give room for the fuel tank which has been mover forward in front of the rear axle. It actually bolts on to the original rear cockpit frame.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4nemxnlm.jpg

There are some wheel arch issues but we'll sort then later. This one is how I would like them all to look
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pshk3wctus.jpg

The rear end fits well and it makes sense to make a boot. The boot lid is an original MGA lid found by Chris.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps497l0hcv.jpg
The boot is now bigger than the original Spitfire boot.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psypwnj7wf.jpg

We wanted to make the fitting of the body as easy as possible so used the front sills and original bonnet shut line as a reference points.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psqq0igur4.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psjxxgt8te.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psw6mha7rj.jpg
The finished mould will have a flange designed to sit over and butt-up against these points thus making the task of lining-up the body easier.

There was always going to be a flip front but Chris decided to make it a little rounder
.http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psdwx2m6w1.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psqq0igur4.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pskgezavxo.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6ohutg5y.jpg
We think the curves make it look a softer fit.

After much work we rested :tea:

At some point after this thing went a crazy :scared:
I think it was to much posh chocolate, but the resulting changes really worked. :scared:
I'll post the photos tomorrow :attention:

Paul L 29th June 2015 20:39

Great work everyone. :cool:

I firmly believe that designing the kit to fit over a cut down down body shell is a great idea.

If the donor car was a runner, it could remain one throughout and that is one less thing to worry about.

I'm looking forward to seeing what this ends up looking like.

Good luck, Paul. :)

micky1mo 30th June 2015 06:33

Keeping the donor running and driving is one of the "magic" things with this build :dance:
Apart from the obvious things like the bonnet doors etc., the only "technical" thing the builder needs to do is disconnect the front and rear lights, even the fuel tank can be moved with-out disturbing the pipes. :laugh:
If every thing goes right it should be possible to drive the donor into the your garage at 8 am on a Saturday morning and drive out an Alpha at 4pm Sunday afternoon. :icon_rolleyes:

I feel a time lapse video coming on :icon_wink:

mas123mas 30th June 2015 06:39

Looking good :thumb:

Jerome 30th June 2015 15:47

I like it very much!

What is the size of the wheels at the foto,s?They fit very nice.
Was the Spit lowered?

Keep on posting these nice pictures.

Rob

micky1mo 30th June 2015 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 68780)
What is the size of the wheels at the foto,s?They fit very nice.
Was the Spit lowered?

The wheels are 14" with 14x185 tyres.
Spitfire is not lowered the bigger wheels fill the arch nicely :icon_biggrin:

micky1mo 2nd July 2015 19:25

So here,s what happened!!

The old SAMMIO Spyder front was removed to help fit the recessed light buckets
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps22fbb23f.jpg

And it never got put back on.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5p45im4d.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pssmnzfqmk.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psvs7lkjkx.jpg

We think it's the right move :icon_wink:

I think it looks stunning :love:
Put any badge on the front of that bonnet from a BMW to a LANCIA and it will look like it belongs. But with the new SAMMIO badge. :roll:

The wings will need a little shaping to accommodate the lighting buckets but apart from that what you see will be what you get the all new A1 ALPHA :horn::bounce::nod:

With time, effort and a little luck this beauty will be ready the end of July for you all to see, try and buy :first::first:

As I keep saying watch this space :pop2:

Paul L 3rd July 2015 05:46

Micky1Mo - It is great to see the new design evolving so quickly. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

Paul L 3rd July 2015 20:20

I knew that grille opening reminded me of something else. :cool:

http://wallpapers111.com/wp-content/...llpapers-9.jpg

adventuresoftimtim 4th July 2015 13:06

That front end is starting to look really great now. I like the way you decided to keep the clam bonnet as well!!

Roadster 4th July 2015 21:33

I was down with Chris today and had a look round the work in progress.

The original car was a pretty little thing.

The new car has a much more purposeful look about it, the proportions are spot on.
I like it a lot.

Im sure it will win lots of admirers and create some new owners.

oxford1360 6th July 2015 17:36

Are you tempted, Mickey?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kouga-Monz...item2ee367f65f

micky1mo 6th July 2015 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford1360 (Post 68878)

Sorry to say I have no "spare" pennies.
Nice kit and it looks a bit like the G-46 from the front :eusa_think:

micky1mo 9th July 2015 14:04

Spent more time with Chris and Dan at Tribute HQ.
This is the results (sorry about the two "groupie's" in the back ground)
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psncxgiqp0.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psyfpyr7bt.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0xdvtn10.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psj30n6jze.jpg

It's all coming along nicely :dance:

The whole thing is designed to fit the standard Triumph Spitfire but if you want to fit a larger engine like the 6 pot then a "extended" scoop will be available .:sing:

With a bit of luck we will be able to start taking orders in a few weeks.:rockon: The final price will depend on the total development costs but it'll still be the cheapest kit on the market .:rockon::rockon:

Sammio prices + Tribute quality should make a nice combination :eusa_clap:

GazDavies 9th July 2015 14:40

Its looking great Mike, well done!

davecymru 9th July 2015 17:02

That's looking really good and some of those small details really make a big difference!

It'll be great to see the Sammio brand back out-n-about again!

Paul L 9th July 2015 18:51

Great work guys. :cool:

Personally, I'd rather pay a bit more for a quality kit that actually "does what is says on the tin".

The HUGE savings in both time and hassle of construction will still make it well worth it.

Good luck, Paul. :)

micky1mo 9th July 2015 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by davecymru (Post 68996)

It'll be great to see the Sammio brand back out-n-about again!

As I keep saying "watch this space" :pop2:

adventuresoftimtim 12th September 2015 06:39

Hi

Have you had chance to do any more on the shell yet? Would be great if the bonnet could be stretched to fit a herald as well... Says the bloke with 2 herald chassis's :)

micky1mo 12th September 2015 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by adventuresoftimtim (Post 71185)
Hi

Have you had chance to do any more on the shell yet? Would be great if the bonnet could be stretched to fit a herald as well... Says the bloke with 2 herald chassis's :)

Unfortunately there no more progress to report as right now there's a few personal issue going on at both Sammio HQ and Tribtue HQ so it's on hold.

It worth pointing out that this body is being built/designed with "adjustment" in mind, so with a little work there's no reason why it couldn't fit a Herald, Scimitar, MGF, Lotus, MX5 ect ect :blah::blah:

micky1mo 2nd April 2016 19:15

Some progress to report at last!!:scared::scared:

With much effort from Chris and Dan these are the latest photo of the A1 ALPHA.
I hope to have this the prototype (painted in red) at Stoneleigh Kit Car Show on the Tribute Automotive stand.

Large boot with rain channel, you can also see the revised position of the standard Spitfire fuel tank which now bolts the original rear cockpit panel mountings.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps71fgovmp.jpg

The scuttle panel sits over the standard dash so with a little trimming it will finish it off nicely.
Note, all the original dash, clocks even the heater controls remain in place, untouched and working as they should.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psd7oive46.jpg

The original rear wheel arches and boot floor will now meet the body tub which will not only help line every thing up but also help make the boot water tight.
Note, the rear wheel arches are "round" and follow the shape/profile of the wheels.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5qeekbzd.jpg

IMHO The front end is just stunning. :love:
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pswfbebroh.jpg.

I know I keep on saying "Watch this space" but seriously "watch this space" as it's going to happen in the next few weeks and you'll see it here first. :whoo:
Again many thanks Chris and Dan for your efforts.

Jeff H 2nd April 2016 21:53

Looking very good, lots of time and effort gone in to that.

I liked the fin myself, i guess you could fit one if needed ?

Will look nice in Red.

Jeff.

Paul L 3rd April 2016 06:13

Micky1Mo – I know I keep saying this, but the ability to fit the kit on top of a working Spitfire donor will make this a much simpler/quicker build. :cool:

I dread to think how many hours I’ve spent trying to incorporate some of these ideas into my own build. :icon_sad:
( Scuttle over the dash, boot rain channel, boot floor, inner rear aches, etc. )

In fact, I am in the middle of building “round” (ish) wheel arches at the moment. :rolleyes:

So good luck with getting the next generation of Sammio ready in time, Paul. :)

PS
Building a new model a few weeks before a show is a Chris & Dan tradition. :icon_wink:

lancelot link 3rd April 2016 13:02

Saw this last week and its coming along very nicely ...Top marks to Chris and Dan for effort...

micky1mo 5th April 2016 14:24

A few more photos from Tribute HQ.

Looking good I think!:dance:

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psnkuazhpo.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psb6iazme0.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pswwidrqjt.jpg

Not the final colour just a tint in the primer to give you an idea.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psyuhwuzlq.jpg

The final colour will be a good shade of RED.
Collecting the prototype on Thursday so I can do some better photos and start to tart-it-up ready for Stoneleigh.

My workshop is just 10 min from J16, M4, anyone is welcome to come and have a sneaky preview

oxford1360 5th April 2016 14:34

Looking good, Mike. That back end is particularly nice.

Roadster 5th April 2016 14:38

Looking good - how are you going to present it - classic style racer or more modern like the BMW powered Sammio?

swifty 5th April 2016 17:38

Looks sleek, certainly is more balanced than the nav shell.

Look forward to seeing it on the road.

Paul L 5th April 2016 19:33

Very nice. :cool:

micky1mo 6th April 2016 09:55

Thanks or all your positive comments.
I think the shape is looks right from any angle. :love:
I recon with a wind screen and a few bits of chrome it should look the dogs do-dars.

I'm going for a classic sportster look in red for Stoneleigh, but I have plans for a BMW power chassis finished in white covered with Martin racing decals or may-be another one in GULF colours. :icon_rolleyes:

lancelot link 6th April 2016 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by micky1mo (Post 76967)

Note, the rear wheel arches are "round" and follow the shape/profile of the wheels.

I saw the car yesterday in primer and its looking good ..not 100% how I would have done it but what do I know ? Its a pretty car and agreed Oxford , its very pretty from the rear/ rear 3/4 angle ....

Psycho pops 6th April 2016 17:35

Does the car still retain the chance for individuality, the whole Sammio appeal for me is the challenge to make it work, resulting in no two cars being the same, admitted that's a lovely looking shape from the pictures so long as it doesn't lose the Sammio ethos..
Pops

Paul L 6th April 2016 19:00

Pops - Hopefully this new Sammio will remove the challenge element from the build. :pray:

However, the chances for individuality remain:
- Wheels
- Exhaust
- Fly screen vs. aero screens
- Seats
- Rear lighting
- Interior
- Colour
- Etc.

Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing what it ends up looking like.

Cheers, Paul. :)

Triumph Special 6th April 2016 21:29

Your car, your way, of course, but I'd shy away from the Gulf or Martini liveries. They're both far too late for a car that looks like a fifties sportster.

Think DB3S, Swallow Doretti, SCCA TR3A et al.


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