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Tribute Automotive 4th November 2012 22:00

mmm....like that Nick :eusa_dance:
Some great ideas going on in your workshop, cold or not!

Peepsy 5th November 2012 09:23

Fuelcap
 
That's a very nice fuel cap you have ! And a very good idea to sit it down as per the car it came off. Do you need the big rubber boot it sits in ?

seanick 5th November 2012 19:20

Hi Peep s, yup nice cap, with a key, 20 squids. I am not sure if I will need the rubber gaskeprobably make another, as my drain is now central, not on the side.

Not much time this eve, but took the plunge and made my take on the rear vents.....
will glass later and fill in from behind. I will connect them so they pull some air from the inner wheel arch.

Wadda you think? ?? (apart from mocha, whose opinion I am not interested in)


[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_161421_.jpg[/IMG]

BazMason 5th November 2012 19:39

Great looking filler....but I am biased as I have a coupe! Is yours restored? Doesn't look like it has any of the normal white oxidisation marks. £20 is a cracking price for a restored one too.

Good looking vents too mate.

Tribute Automotive 5th November 2012 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanick (Post 37168)
Hi Peep s, yup nice cap, with a key, 20 squids. I am not sure if I will need the rubber gaskeprobably make another, as my drain is now central, not on the side.

Not much time this eve, but took the plunge and made my take on the rear vents.....
will glass later and fill in from behind. I will connect them so they pull some air from the inner wheel arch.

Wadda you think? ?? (apart from mocha, whose opinion I am not interested in)


[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_161421_.jpg[/IMG]

Nick, you are doing a cracking job! Love the vent and love the speed of your progress!:thumb:

seanick 5th November 2012 20:08

The fillers are ex Fiat Coupe , a car I had not really looked at before, but its worth a look on Wiki. So its '92, and unrestore
Glad you like the vent, subject of a lot of umming and arring. I was going no-vent, but that rear quarter needs breaking up as its a big area, I think. However I found the existing vents too large, so heres my inbetweeny.
Re progress, thanks Chris, its just an hour after work, or two hours after eight when the kids are in bed:lalala:

Peepsy 6th November 2012 07:38

Rear vents
 
I like the look, very slick. With the vent angled in like that its going to suck like a Dyson or maybe play tune like a Violin:violin:

seanick 6th November 2012 18:30

Heres this eves result. Inspired by the 275, and imho a need to break up the rear quarter view. For a couple of hrs marking, snipping and pugging I am pleased. Still needs a bit of fettling.
[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...-17-18_268.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...-17-46_564.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...-18-29_961.jpg[/IMG]
:pop2:

tonyt 6th November 2012 18:51

Top, dallah! Love the look.

seanick 7th November 2012 20:32

Done the vents in the other side. They are quite similar to the other side, so I am happy!


[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...-29-37_813.jpg[/IMG]

And the view from the rear...

[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...-31-16_719.jpg[/IMG]

JG 7th November 2012 23:15

Some really nice mods going on there. Great work :thumb:

Peepsy 8th November 2012 06:45

Vents look great, your so neat. Where do you get you GRP sheet from ?

seanick 8th November 2012 10:49

Thanks Big Cheese

By GRP sheet do you mean mat or pre- made stuff?

The pre made stuff I either snipped bits off the window surrounds to make the small triangles that hold the vents in position, or I just made a bit on some flat plastic stuff.

For good GRP work use a consolodating roller for a better finish and avoiding a resin rich material. Either a paddle wheel or washer type roller.

If you want Chopped Strand Mat, there must be somewhere local to you. Just Google Fibreglass supplies. 2oz is a nice weight.

Peepsy 8th November 2012 17:58

Grp
 
I was referring to those nice pieces of 150mm wide gel coated strips you made your arches with ? :icon_lol:

seanick 8th November 2012 18:33

ah no, those are just bits of white plastic people use for 'For Sale' signs etc. The are just a temporary former. Gel goes on top, when its dried lay up the GRP. When its gone off they are removed to leave a smooth section of GRP.
Any thing thin and bendy can be used, eg perspex, Formica, even thin ply, but you have to cover that with brown parcel tape to stop the gel sticking to it.

Peepsy 8th November 2012 20:29

I can see that now. You do this for a living ?

seanick 8th November 2012 21:09

Pay attention Bond!

No I don't do it for a living...I specialize in Wooden boat restoration and repair, but GRP was part of the course back in '86..........
There is a link to my site via my username if you are interested!

I've done a bit more this eve, hopefully making the former to mould the boot gutter around, so I can use the MX boot seal.
Pics coming via phone.......

seanick 8th November 2012 21:20

Chopped out the boot return...[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_162261_.jpg[/IMG]

Built up layers of plastic stuff to make a former for the grp.
[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_162262_.jpg[/IMG]

Used smooth shiny tape to hold it there, and plastercine in the corners to provide a radius.



[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_162264_.jpg[/IMG]

I'll put a layer of gell coat on now, but will have to take the body off to glass under it properly tomorrow.

seanick 9th November 2012 19:02

Boot gutter/seal mount
 
Put a coat of gell on this morning, and another at lunch today. Glassed over the lot this eve. Only had time for two layers. Hope to put a couple more on tomorrow. Also glassed over the inside of the vents after a clean up.
[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_162479_.jpg[/IMG]

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_162480_.jpg

seanick 11th November 2012 09:43

Oh xxxxxxxxx and xxxxx it!
The grp I did on fri eve still hasn't gone off. Silly me, I used a mixing pot and brush left overfrom epoxying a deck on a boat. Although I rinsed it well in acetone it has upset the polyester and its all still soft. I will havevto pull it off, clean it and :faint: start again!

A sort of Mr Toad moment:mod: !

On a brighter note an afternoon trip to the local scrappy yielded a new 'baby', spotted by my 3 year old daughter, and two vents from a Nissan primera, plus one from another nussan. Which was just too good to leave. Both went home muddy, :party: but happy.

[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_163120_.jpg[/IMG]

Tribute Automotive 11th November 2012 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanick (Post 37352)
Oh xxxxxxxxx and xxxxx it!
The grp I did on fri eve still hasn't gone off. Silly me, I used a mixing pot and brush left overfrom epoxying a deck on a boat. Although I rinsed it well in acetone it has upset the polyester and its all still soft. I will havevto pull it off, clean it and :faint: start again!

I hate it when that happens :sad: Did you forget the catalyst? It can happen to the best of us when you are in a hurry, if in doubt I put another lot in and work twice as fast!!! :flame:

seanick 11th November 2012 19:00

I think it was a combo of epoxy contaminated brush and pot, and a bare minimum of cat. Nipped out after lunch and got it off. It was like plucking a chicken, and went on for ever. Loads of rag and acetone and its as good as its going to get. Re gelled and then came home. Kids now asleep, time to get down there and re-do it. Its put me ba:eusa_boohoo: ck three days .

Tribute Automotive 11th November 2012 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanick (Post 37372)
I think it was a combo of epoxy contaminated brush and pot, and a bare minimum of cat. Nipped out after lunch and got it off. It was like plucking a chicken, and went on for ever. Loads of rag and acetone and its as good as its going to get. Re gelled and then came home. Kids now asleep, time to get down there and re-do it. Its put me ba:eusa_boohoo: ck three days .

It's all worth it in the end :wink:

seanick 11th November 2012 21:11

All back together again. 4% catalyst and its gone already.
Rear vents glassed too on the inside.

seanick 12th November 2012 19:31

Pulled the former out. Da daaa! One gutter and seal mount. Just needs cutting down a bit and a bit of fettling!
[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_163769_.jpg[/IMG]
let it rain!!:rain:

seanick 13th November 2012 23:10

A long evening....
 
Made reasonable progress this eve. Cut the new boot lip down to size, and filled and faired it. Trial fitted the old seal, then trimmed up the boot lid and inner moulding. Put them ib position the added a couple of self tappers through the two so I can glass them together in exactly the right place.
As the body was off filled and faired the vents behind the door pillar. They will be seen from the inside so have filled over the grp and faired it in.
A bit mire work to the rear vents, doubling the thickness of the cut edge ti make look mire substantial.
Finally did a bit of tweaking to the l.h. door shut so it will match my chosen seal.

[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_164172_.jpg[/IMG]

seanick 15th November 2012 22:53

Good sticky session this eve.
Put a border of timber around the vents and glassed around them. Put a few mire layers around the door shuts, added some woven rovings to the arch so when one looks through the rear vents it will have the carbon look (will paint black!).
Chopped of the rear flange left over from moulding and glassed in a small one up the otherway to stiffen the rear valance a bit.
Finally glassed in three strips of 6mm ply to the underside of the roof to space off the headlining and give an air gap.


davecymru 16th November 2012 05:34

Sounds like you're enjoying yourself then! :)

With your boot gutter are you going to fit any drain holes? The only reason I ask is that while I was in the garage last night getting used to my new toy I spotted some random tubes in the engine bay and when I followed them back they were connected to drain holes on the boot and engine cover seal shuts exactly like what you've just added. So I thought it worth mentioning, just in case as its quite spooky timing! :)

froggyman 16th November 2012 07:55

Really interesting thread to follow with lots of info. A truly professional build with lots of thought and ingenuity. An inspiration to many I am sure.

seanick 16th November 2012 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by davecymru (Post 37515)
Sounds like you're enjoying yourself then! :)

With your boot gutter are you going to fit any drain holes? The only reason I ask is that while I was in the garage last night getting used to my new toy I spotted some random tubes in the engine bay and when I followed them back they were connected to drain holes on the boot and engine cover seal shuts exactly like what you've just added. So I thought it worth mentioning, just in case as its quite spooky timing! :)

Thanks Lambo-dave, I will drill some holes, but want to fit the exhaust first so it misses it. Thought it was too tricky to mould a hose tail to into the gutter, but its not to late to add them so I may. To knackered this eve though!
@ Froggyman, thanks, I thought no-one was watching!!

Sort of aiming to get the rear upholstered then shell fitted early next week.....:eusa_pray:

Tribute Automotive 16th November 2012 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanick (Post 37525)
I thought no-one was watching!!

Nick, just look at the "viewed" figure against your tread! I think a lot of people are watching! Great work, it's clear that you have wealth of experience from you boat building day job :eusa_clap:

andyPL 16th November 2012 18:48

IT looks great, many hours and hard work!:hail:

I know something in mechanics stuff(I've done few engine swaps etc) but I had never done nothing in fiberglass.
Love how mx250 looks like, but I'm a little bit scared, that I won't be able do it on my own. Can someone PM me some tips or webs where I can learn more about it before I will order kit...:pray:

p.s sorry for my english

seanick 16th November 2012 19:13

@ Chris, thanks Chris, praise from the Messiah! :kiss: Have you managed to piece your A352 jigsaw back together yet?

@ Andy, do bear in mind that I have done far more GRP work than is actually nessercery. There is no need to do any major work to the standard Tribute kit, it just fits perfectly and once its bonded and riveted on there is no real need for more GRP work. The only reason I am tweaking the kit is because I have my own idea of how I want it to look. There are penny of ways to skin a cat (apparently, I have never tried!!), and just like most kits, they all end up a bit different.

There are quite a few grp laminating guides on YouTube.

andyPL 16th November 2012 20:41

ok thanks a lot...
I will read a litle bit more about it and order kit in january...
My friend want to sell an turbo miata and I have to think about it twice...a lot of cash : http://otomoto.pl/mazda-mx-5-turbo-2...C25023366.html

thanks again and I'm looking forward for more pictures of your car

Tribute Automotive 16th November 2012 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanick (Post 37531)
Have you managed to piece your A352 jigsaw back together yet?

Just posting some pictures up in a minute. We are taking the car to the Haynes Motor Museum at Sparkford on Sunday! :eusa_pray:

Peepsy 17th November 2012 08:31

Hi Andy
Just to add to what Seanick said. I have been doing a little fibre glassing on my car and it is not difficult ,just messy.Youtube has a lot of videos and if you follow the instructions on the tin it will work.

As for your donor. That is a very pretty Miata. I think a mechanically good ugly MX5 would be a lot cheaper, and as you are going to pull it apart and cover the whole body. I think I would save the money for the extras needed to make it look great.

With any donor MX5 they rust, take your time and have a good look at the sills and wheel arches, in fact all the underneath.
goodluck
Roger



Quote:

Originally Posted by andyPL (Post 37532)
ok thanks a lot...
I will read a litle bit more about it and order kit in january...
My friend want to sell an turbo miata and I have to think about it twice...a lot of cash : http://otomoto.pl/mazda-mx-5-turbo-2...C25023366.html

thanks again and I'm looking forward for more pictures of your car


seanick 17th November 2012 09:36

I agree with Peeps. I have had a look at the advert, it looks far to good. What you need is a scruffy mx5 that is covered in dents, but as little rust as poss on the rear of the sills. The rear arches all get covered so even those can be poor and just trimmed and welded up.
You can get very good mx5s over here for 750 GBP!

tytek 17th November 2012 09:42

I got mine for just over £700, it needed it's sills doing and a pair of headlights for it's MOT.
This time of year there will be plenty bargains out there!!!

BazMason 17th November 2012 09:47

Item 140883536627 on UK eBay looks very tidy and is very cheap (at the moment...) even factoring the cost of travel and driving it back to Poland it would still be better value for money! I'm sure there will be similar deals for LHD models on the continent.

seanick 17th November 2012 19:11

Another few hours this afternoon and I have dry fitted the glass to the rear. The hole in the car is the size of the glass less 6mm, so I taped it in place, marked it out, then marked out 6mm smaller. After cutting out I checked the rubber fitted.
[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_165537_.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_165538_.jpg[/IMG]

Also had a final cut and sand of various new bits of GRP , tidying up the door edges, fitting the headlining etc. So glad to finish that as the dust is horrid. How do you cope with it Chris??.
Finally ran wires for two extra interior lights and the heated rear window. Taped in place then stuck them in with a lodge of polyurethane sealant. It would be REALLY annoying if they were to rattle!!
[IMG]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...et_165539_.jpg[/IMG]


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