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Barber 7th September 2018 08:12

No heated seats then.��

Lucky@LeMans 7th September 2018 16:56

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A few photos of the work I've done over the last week or so.
The curved box formers have made easy work of the bonnet return edges.
The scuttle panel along with the roughly formed bonnet edges sitting in place. A bit more work needed on these parts before final fit !
The engine has been in and out a few times, next time it goes in should be the last.
The interior is stripped back to bare bones and cleaned up. Also welded up all the holes along the top chassis rail where the old Locost body was rivetted on.

molleur 7th September 2018 18:27

Very nice work!

Paul L 8th September 2018 05:48

Daft question time...

Is it just a case of hammering the metal around the former?

Or do you need to apply heat / do something else as well?

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...9&d=1536339373

This really is going to be stunning when finished.

Good luck, Paul. :)

Lucky@LeMans 8th September 2018 09:13

In the case of the scuttle panel it is a fairy simple shape so the aluminium will easily form and stretch over the former around the bonnet return edge. Its easy to work as its quite soft and malleable. I use a domed plastic mallet so you can form the internal radius's . Luckily I had the screen and frame which allowed me to get the correct profile, it would have been guesswork without it !

Lucky@LeMans 10th September 2018 21:22

Made another former tonight, a concave one this time. I want to get the front end ready this week so it can go back on the car at the weekend, that's the plan anyway !

Lucky@LeMans 11th September 2018 16:29

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A few more jobs done. I needed to make up several curved steel tube sections to support the front end so I looked at buying a tube roller. Most of the ones I looked at that would cope with 5/8" diameter tube were too much money at £300 +. There's plenty of scrap bits of steel lying around in the garage so I've knocked up a simple one for free ! I made a couple of sets of dies so it will do flat section and tube.The first section made will go under the front edge of the scuttle, the ali being formed around it. Here are a couple of photo's...…….

molleur 11th September 2018 16:51

Very nice work!

jones 11th September 2018 22:42

Loving it!

Lucky@LeMans 17th September 2018 16:47

All the return edges around the bonnet are done now. The front end is ready to go back on the chassis and the bracketry made up to support it. Another week and the front end should be just about done ( minus the bonnet itself ! ). Next jobs include a new wiring loom, exhaust manifolds and system ……..

scimjim 17th September 2018 21:50

Just catching up on this great build and it’s looking lovely :)

You said you just bolted the new Engine onto the existing type 9 - But the V6 needs a longer input shaft and has different ratios to the 4 pot.

Lucky@LeMans 17th September 2018 22:11

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Originally Posted by scimjim (Post 96843)
Just catching up on this great build and it’s looking lovely :)

You said you just bolted the new Engine onto the existing type 9 - But the V6 needs a longer input shaft and has different ratios to the 4 pot.

I found a supplier who has "short" aluminium bell housings available to allow the Type 9's with the shorter input shaft to fit. Well that was what the seller told me but I found out after that he also supplies a spigot bearing adaptor that I needed too ! What I've gained is a light weight bell housing that needed adapting anyway.

Yes the ratios are slightly different but that shouldn't be an issue. With the 80 profile tyres rather than the 50 series fitted to the "7" the ratios in the box and the diff will complement the V6.

scimjim 17th September 2018 22:20

I’ve seen the adaptor shafts but would definitely go with the short bellhousing (I sold mine for a lot more than I paid for it!).

The change in tyre profile won’t totally hide the very low first (I had a 2.9i GTC with a type 9 and went from 14” to 15” Wheels and first was still only for pulling away on hills) - I’m about to change mine in the hillclimb SS1 for next season as even on a CVH it’s too low.

Lucky@LeMans 17th September 2018 22:54

I'll have to see once I've got it on the road. I only intend to use it on the road anyway so normal driving, mostly in 3rd, 4th and 5th will be ok, as long as my calculations are correct.

kevemm 18th September 2018 08:33

Its looking fantastic!

Lucky@LeMans 25th September 2018 19:30

I've been working on getting the front end bolted up to chassis over the last few days. It's quite involved getting it all supported correctly, I don't want to have any part of it under any stress loads so I'm having to brace it all up. I'm doing it in such a way that none of the supporting structure will be visible.

I've also sent off the log book V5 to be updated with the new body. Should all be ok with what I've asked for under make and model. They have before and after photos, receipts, the old V5 and a covering letter. Wait and see what they come up with.

Lucky@LeMans 28th September 2018 22:33

A bit of a change for this weekend, I'm going to make a start on the seats. When I bought the body panels there were lots of other bits that came with it including the seats. However, they won't fit into the chassis without chopping them around for width and height. I did some measuring up and I ordered some leather in black.

Lucky@LeMans 9th October 2018 20:59

I little more progress, the front bodywork is now largely supported and fixed in place. Time to start looking at the door hinges. I want a little adjustment, up, down and left and right so the door can be squared up. Still some work to do on the seats, the backs are done and look ok. The bases are taking a bit more effort, I might yet let the pro's do the job if I can't get it right !

Biggles 13th October 2018 13:30

Just leaving these here....
 
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Seen at Classics on the Common, Harpenden

NeilF355 14th October 2018 10:18

:jaw:

Lucky@LeMans 14th October 2018 14:32

I've not seen that blue car before and I can't find any other photos online. This is a slightly later variation as it hasn't got the full pontoon wing arrangement. There were a lot of ideas being tried out around this era, the Testarossa design changed many times.

redratbike 18th October 2018 15:25

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Jaguartvr 18th October 2018 17:32

Take a big carrier bag:spy:

redratbike 18th October 2018 18:48

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Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 97160)
Take a big carrier bag:spy:

:thumb:

Lucky@LeMans 18th October 2018 22:32

I was lucky enough to get a good look around the GTO Engineering workshop facility earlier this year. If I had a big enough check book I could have come away with lots of goodies !

Lucky@LeMans 20th October 2018 09:01

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Originally Posted by Lucky@LeMans (Post 96956)
I've been working on getting the front end bolted up to chassis over the last few days. It's quite involved getting it all supported correctly, I don't want to have any part of it under any stress loads so I'm having to brace it all up. I'm doing it in such a way that none of the supporting structure will be visible.

I've also sent off the log book V5 to be updated with the new body. Should all be ok with what I've asked for under make and model. They have before and after photos, receipts, the old V5 and a covering letter. Wait and see what they come up with.

A letter came in the post today. A confirmation letter from the friendly DVLA people saying my application has been authorised and my V5c will follow shortly !!

They were happy with everything I sent them , even the hand written receipt from the seller. Using an already correctly registered car as the base for this project has caused no problems at all.

molleur 20th October 2018 17:59

Super! Congrats.

Lucky@LeMans 22nd October 2018 12:08

Result ! V5c came back today. Make now shows Giordanengo 250 TR, there is no reference to the "7" base car. As before the model is still blank, I'm really happy with the outcome.

Lucky@LeMans 24th October 2018 17:28

Managed to get onto the doors and made up some hinge supports. Not the easiest task as I've had to work from scratch. The back edge of the front wings were reinforced with a steel supporting structure bolted to the chassis. Part of the hinge assembly is welded to the structure forming a solid base to work from. I've got the near side done and the door is mounted up. Soon as I'm totally happy with it I'll post some photos.

I've been to the trimmers with my seats, I'm waiting on a quote. It shouldn't be too much as I'm supplying the leather and the seat frames. I had a go myself but I wasn't 100% happy with the results so I'll let the professionals do it ! The interior is sparse on these cars anyway, the seats are the first thing you look at, they need to be right.

Lucky@LeMans 26th October 2018 21:19

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Photos below show the first fix attempt with the hinged door sitting in place. Not too bad and there is a little adjustment.
Other photos show one option for the front indicators. These are side repeaters from a Ford, KA I think. Another option is to fit a brass bulb holder with an amber bulb, but it does look like an after thought borrowed from a bed side lamp ! When the car is painted the Ford ones will blend in and not look so obvious.

molleur 26th October 2018 22:47

Looks good!

Lucky@LeMans 27th October 2018 15:31

I'm happy with the door hinges now. That was the last job before lifting off the front end off again to finish various jobs. Those include welding all the supporting structure in place as its all just tacked into position at the moment. I need to make up the exhaust manifolds and down pipes, make some ali infill panels and radiator mounts. Might run the wiring loom in as well whilst access is easy. Probably find some other jobs to do so that lot will keep me busy for a week or two. After that the front end can go back on and be bolted up for the final time. Getting there !

molleur 27th October 2018 16:17

Good progress, can't wait to see some more pics.

Paul L 28th October 2018 08:39

Lucky - Congratulations on getting the V5C sorted out. :cool:

This just confirms what a clever approach you have taken to this build.

I think you can't go wrong with the modern side repeaters.

At worst, it will look like you had to add them to keep an old car on the road. :icon_wink:

Good luck, Paul. :)

Lucky@LeMans 28th October 2018 15:13

The re body way of building a car or replica brings lots of options when you realise you can re body any suitable vehicle to suit your needs as long as its correctly registered in the first place. You could build a bespoke chassis the same as the original car but it could well run into problems with the IVA inspectors. What was acceptable in the 1950's won't be these days !


Regards my indicator choice I think it will look fine against the dark red paint. Not sure what to do at the rear, I could use this style, not sure at the moment. I could cast a pair of rear lenses with a red and a clear section the same size and shape of the originals, just a thought.

molleur 28th October 2018 15:21

Triumph TR-2/3 taillights may be close..

Lucky@LeMans 28th October 2018 16:11

I've got the originals but they are all red so no provision for indicators.

lancelot link 28th October 2018 20:22

why don't you keep the all red lenses that you have and hide a couple of amber units inside those rear vents ?

Mick O'Malley 29th October 2018 06:28

Front Indicators
 
I would go for A35 style sidelights (Lucas L516) with amber LEDs in home-made bulbs, mounted where you've shown the too modern looking (IMHO) repeaters. A suitable resistance would be needed to fool the flasher unit.

Just a thought.

Regards, Mick

NeilF355 29th October 2018 08:14

This car has the tear drop style front indicators/side repeaters (must admit I would have placed them and inch or two further forward) and indicators at the rear in the vents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwNgefrTdSM


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