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Oh dear. Bloody ebay should charge the buyer under those circumstances, not the seller. It's just too easy for timewasters to, well, waste your time, without facing any real penalty.
Better luck next time - an ebay classified ad is fixed cost so if your 'buyer' doesn't come up with the money it doesn't cost you anything. |
Sorry to hear that, Mick but why are we not surprised?
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Sorry to hear about your sale falling through. I have given up using the auction format on ebay for the same reason. The "classified" style of advert works much better. Your advertised price is your starting point and will only attract genuine enquiries. Genuine buyers will want to view a specialist car prior to purchase anyway and the auction format often doesn't allow enough time for potential customers to do that. The classified adverts run for a month.
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A New Tack
Firstly, many thanks for the commiserations, a bit of sympathy goes a long way :).
Sat at home Friday morning wondering whether to go through with another tedious and depressing sale/no sale saga and decided against it. Picked up the 'phone and spent £118 re-insuring the A352, reasoning that I could continue down the For Sale notice route at upcoming events at a bargain price. Yesterday was the Gloucester Retro Festival. A friend had told me that he was unable to take his 50s Sunbeam along to display and offered me his ticket. Gloucester retains its medieval cross layout, with the four streets named after the main compass points. For the festival, one is 40s and before; one 50s; one 60s; and the other 70s to date. So at 0800, wearing my white racing overalls, cheesecutter cap and shirt and tie I fired up the 352 and pootled the mile or so to my first come, first served slot near the pedestrianised cross. The Royalists laid siege to Gloucester in the civil war and I soon discovered how the Parliamentarians must have felt, with the fine weather bringing out the GBP in hordes. I fielded so many questions during my nine hours at the car's side that I was hoarse by the end of the day. More than a few said that mine was car of the show (out of a good hundred or so), very flattering! In a bizarre piece of synchronicity, a guy I know from near Bath was displaying his '1940s Alfa Romeo' and was wearing an almost identical 'gentleman racer' outfit. and some of the above mentioned flatterers had also mentioned his car as an equal favourite. Weird. One punter was a persistent repeat visitor who, on learning of my Ebay debacle, asked if I still wanted to sell and offered me £12k plus the cost of my renewed insurance. I took his details and said I'd consider it. There are still a good few events left this year at which to advertise, particularly the Castle Combe Classic on 6th October. Unmissable. A great day out, so busy I didn't take any pictures, although one professionally captured will appear soon. Regards, Mick p.s. Just performed a quick Goggle and found a picture of the 'Alfa'. It's a much darker red in the flesh. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1887/...af79b2b0_b.jpg |
Stunning Mick absolutely stunning.
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If you have no other plans for bank holiday Monday there is a big classic car gathering in the grounds of Pershore Abbey. I've been the last few years and it has become a big event. Just turn up on the day ( best before 10am ) to get parked in a good location. I'll be there in my Z3 donor car !
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Hi Mick, pleased you have kept the car to be honest I was surprised you were letting it go its a real work of art. Met the guy with the Alpha at a show in Walcott Bath not so long ago, great car and a really nice down to earth guy
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Having been primed by Lucky@LeMans, who I also bumped into there, today's sortie in the A352 was to the Pershore Abbey Classic Car Show. It's about 25 miles from home up the largely deserted and very scenic and twisty A38. The drive up was bliss - I'm now very pleased that the two muppets failed to honour their bids :).
I've not attended it before and was pleasantly surprised at the level and well tended grounds. Already, at about 0915, there were many interesting and varied vehicles on display, their numbers swelling throughout my six hour stay. My favourites were an Alfa Spyder (AKA Moss Mamba ;) ) that I'd seen before at Shelsley Walsh, and a glorious and correctly coloured Ferrari Dino. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1874/...9457be5a_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1855/...e550c19a_b.jpg The A352's berth was between an HA Viva and a Jowett Jupiter which I'd initially mistaken for an XK Jaguar as I approached. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/...f5f38a5f_b.jpg Just as on Saturday, I was besieged by interested punters, one of whom had worked at Browns Lane with Norman Dewis, another who showed me pictures of his Lynx (or whatever) 'D-Type', and a third who'd been offered two real ones in the 60s for £750 the pair! The only down side for me was the lack of a doughnut seller, otherwise a brilliant day out. Regards, Mick |
Beaulieu Autojumble
Last weekend's sortie in the A352 was to this cracking event. I've been every year since '94, bar one, with an old kit car friend who built one of the very first Westfield XIs in the early 80s, around the time I built my first Dutton Phaeton. We camp on a quiet farm a couple of miles from the venue, £10 per night for a 'pitch', i.e. whichever corner of the vast field we fancy.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1895/...7d1f94cc_b.jpg Due to the impracticality of the two of us plus camping gear and, possibly, bulky purchases fitting into the A352, I left it at his place near Yate and we travelled down in the Merc. In the museum car park was easily the best recreation I have ever seen. At first I thought it was simply a run of the mill Bentley R Type Mulliner Continental Fastback but on the rear seat was a laminated sheet detailing its creation only last year from a regular R Type. 'Fabulous' is overused but I feel it's appropriate here! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1863/...a3ee0331_b.jpg There's a paddock of sorts on the site where cars can be offered for sale, usually at grossly inflated prices. The only kit car there this year was a Marina based Teal, nicely done but £30k? What a joker! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1891/...18600f58_b.jpg In the autojumble itself a familiar looking creation on a trailer was also for sale. It was off to Germany the next day unless a very substantial wad of Euros was forthcoming to secure it. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1845/...f183c9af_b.jpg A very hot, sunny and enjoyable weekend slightly marred on my way back on Monday afternoon when I ran into a cloudburst on the A38. It was flinging it down but luckily my electrics escaped a soaking as I blatted through it doing 50s and 60s for about five minutes. Happy Days. Regards, Mick |
Some nice looking cars there, Mick, I particularly like that Teal.
As for the price the owner is asking, I don't think it's unrealistic when you look at the time an money that's gone into finishing it to what looks to be an excellent standard (from your photo, anyway). Not sure if you're watching 'Wheeler Dealers' on Quest at the moment, but there's a bit of a trend on that show: If the finished car is advertised at under $20k, people with no money show up, kick the tyres and make ridiculously low offers, which Brewer usually accepts due to there being nobody else answering the ad. But, when the finished car is offered at $30k+, there's a queue of Doctors and Lawyers and Business Executives (who all live in little boxes, btw), and the first one to show up compliments Mike on the quality of Ed's work and pays the asking price without a second's thought. I know you've had issues selling your D Type, but have you considered doubling the price and putting it in a classified ad? After all, it deserves to achieve a strong price and what have you got to lose? Just a thought. |
+1 on the D type price, I would think it was worth double. Sorry but I would think it would always be worth a lot more than a Sammio. Needs to be listed and advertised correctly.
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A good few years ago, also at Prescott, the Teal Owners Club turned up with a six car convoy. Some were not only correctly coloured and suitably distressed, but had dummy friction dampers. One was even towing a 'half a Bugatti' trailer. If I find the analogue photo' I'll post it. That was a £30k car if ever I saw one! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1888/...40738c75_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/...462195cd_b.jpg Regards, Mick |
The Teal at £30k isn't expensive really, infact it's at the lower end for well built examples. When you realise that the style of "kit" wouldn't pass IVA easily or at all these days then the ones that are already built and on the road now will be it. So there will only be a finite number available in the future.
I too think your "D" type recreation is under priced and ebay isn't really the right selling forum to attract the right people. I would go with the likes of a "Classic and Sports Car" classified ad with a £30k asking price. As has been said above, there are people out there, genuine buyers with plenty of money. |
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An ebay classified is fine, that's how I sold my Spyder. ebay auction format is just too easy for to$$ers to place bids they don't have the funds for and then waster your time with excuses.
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Thanks and Posing
Many thanks for advice regarding selling. I'll decide whether to keep her next spring post her MOT on the Ides of March. Blatting to and from the latest events has certainly re-kindled my enthusiasm. Roll on the Castle Combe Autumn Classic on Oct. 6th, which is Vingt Quatre Heurs du Mans themed, with genuine GT40s in attendance. Unmissable!
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Nothing wrong with getting that close to a bit of skirt. ��
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Also worth a visit is the Prescott Autumn Classic on both the Saturday and Sunday, 6th - 7th October. Whilst it has a large American contingent the event is more like a small Goodwood Festival feel with a whole variety of cars, bikes and entertainment on show over the weekend. The Bugatti museum will be open and that's worth a look in its own right. All in all a great weekend, weather permitting !
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Mick - I hope you keep enjoying the car until it is sold, as it does look great. :cool:
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Looks like a nice moulding. Bonnet looks more like an E-type than D-type.
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How do you maintain the engine? Price looks a bit high to start chopping it up, or is that part of the attraction? But yes, the moulding looks to be decent quality.
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Flip front, same as E-type. I'm pretty sure it is an E-type bonnet with a D-type body.
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A mixed day...
Saturday's sortie in the A352 was once again to Shelsley Walsh. The scenic early morning blat up the largely deserted A38 through Tewkesbury was enjoyable as ever, apart from a hint of a misfire under load at low revs. More of this anon.. I stopped for fuel and, on coming out after paying, I was buttonholed by a guy who positively raved about my machine. He said he'd turned back having seen it in passing, and was convinced it was genuine until I put him right. Very Flattering!
On arrival, I was directed, as ever, to 'Row A' where black number plated cars gather. The guy next to me had bought his Elan Plus Two with frontal damage and had rebuilt it to his own design, also installing a 1.8 MX5 mill and five speed 'box. A cracking job he'd made of it too. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/...ec3b0bc9_b.jpg I'm not a huge fan of US metal but there were two absolute pearlers there, both with history. The first was the winner of the 1948 Indy 500 which also took pole in '55. The four cylinder Offenhauser made the ground shake as it powered off the line in a cloud of oil smoke. Apparently it ran at The Brickyard with only a two speed 'box in period, and a 15:1 compression ratio. The hole in the grille was for the remote starter, basically an enormous electric drill with a female splined 'bit' which fitted over the protruding nose of the crankshaft.. What a glorious machine. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1870/...d2de3b5c_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1893/...06a0ee98_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/...d1835b12_b.jpg The second beauty, a Camaro, had a rather sadder history. Its first of only two owners was KIA in Vietnam in his F4 Phantom :( . https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/...1ea2fa1c_b.jpg On the way back, between Worcester and Tewkesbury, a persistent and worsening backfire and loss of power at low revs manifested itself.. I pulled into a lay-by and investigated, imagining the points had closed. I opened them up a little but it wouldn't restart, so I was ignominiously towed back behind my ex-neighbour's Land Cruiser. Replacing the condenser with a known good one effected the repair - I'll carry a spare from now on! Regards, Mick |
Cotswold Airport Show
Today's sortie in the A352 was to the above venue, where the show was billed as 'Revival', so I donned my white boiler suit, shirt and tie, and cheesecutter cap. On the way, via Cirencester, the pesky nylon retainer for the gear lever spring gave up the ghost. I've experienced this before, in multiple Triumph gearboxes, and was prepared for the extremely vague feel. The first time it happened was in my Spitfire in the 70's, when I managed to burn away from the lights in reverse, catastrophe being only narrowly avoided :rolleyes:.
On arrival I managed to get into the interesting vehicle parking area, despite not having the necessary pass. After fending off the first wave of interested punters, I walked the rows and came across Alex parked in almost pole position, his car looking as spruce as ever. I was a little underwhelmed by the show itself, but as it's in its infancy I imagine it will grow, and I was delighted to find a reasonably priced doughnut seller :). Amongst the static aircraft was this Chipmunk, a type in which I used to fly from White Waltham as an RAF Cadet in the 60s. Happy Days! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1936/...a021d227_b.jpg Amongst the punters' cars two stood out for me: this Riley Elf in cream over chocolate: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1906/...cf43f6f7_b.jpg and this Alfa GT Veloce: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1919/...ed02f148_b.jpg The Trabant behind it had a VW Golf power train - a lot of fun to be had in that! Despite my trepidation regarding the iffy gear-linkage, the journey home was uneventful. A good day out: roll on next Saturday at the Combe!. Regards, Mick |
Another local event I didn't know about !
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Pleased you got home ok Mick, good to meet up again. I will definitely be at the Castle Combe Autumn Classic Race Meet next Saturday hopefully try and park up next to each other
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Don't forget its the Prescott Autumn Classic next weekend. I know it clashes with Castle Combe but this one is on both Saturday and Sunday. Its a bit like a mini Goodwood Festival all be it with a big American contingent. I've been the last few times and its well worth a look , weather permitting.
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The forecast for the Saturday isn't very good at the moment.
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Agree the forecast looks like rain on Saturday so I will probably go to Combe in the daily driver but if it looks like it is going to be dry I will go in the Formosa
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Wet and Dry Combe
I went to the Classic yesterday in the Micra with no. two son, arriving at 0930 in heavy rain. Watched lots of practice as it gradually dried out, then the racing in the afternoon, of which the pre '66 Jaguar event was brilliant. Also visited the GT40 display (there were 12), a couple of which were fired up in the tent - thunderous!. Tucked in the corner amongst them was this fabulous beast which cost its owner £14,000,000. Divine.
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Didnt see you Mick, I was up on Camp Corner under my umbrella with sides keeping out of the rain, didnt venture out much just down to the paddock at lunch time
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Prescott or Repairs?
Once the early frost had melted, I uncovered the A352 and decided which of the above to pursue. I'd been to the US themed Prescott meeting once before and, having been underwhelmed, I plumped for repairing the floppy gear change which manifested itself last weekend. I unscrewed the gear knob, drilled out the four rivets, and removed the gaiter. This revealed that the large spring had eaten its way through the nylon retaining cup, as expected.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1912/...abeb669f_b.jpg I'd already bought the repair kit so I sorted out the bits I needed, removed the old ones and began re-assembly. When building, I'd cut and shut the gear stick to replicate the forward angled look of a D-Type's and found, to my dismay, that I couldn't force the cup over the weld in situ, so decided to remove the stick. I'd built in an access panel in anticipation during construction, so, drilling out three of its four rivets and swivelling it out of the way, I just about managed to manoeuvre my hands in, remove the small retaining bolt, and take the lever down to the cave https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1944/...6dd36e02_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1904/...b4bf5431_b.jpg I ground the sharp top edge off the spring, and a little of the weld, clamped it in the vice, and used a ring spanner and hammer to gently tap the cup into position. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/...a7388d0a_b.jpg Reassembly was straightforward apart from the fiddle of replacing the bolt with such limited access. A quick test drive confirmed all was now well :). Regards, Mick |
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The alloy wheels offered by Teal were ok but they were only 15". The wires generally fitted are 18" and look so much better. I have seen a couple of cars with alloy wheel covers in 18", with the alloy spoked style which look quite convincing. I haven't seen the advert but £12995 is very good if its an aluminium car, the early Teals were fibre glass and no where near as nice or desirable.
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