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Aus Simmo 17th September 2017 00:14

New direction for DNA
 
I just checked the DNA site which has been down for ages.

They now have pics of a rather nice 356 Speedster with some modern/outlaw styling cues.

No other info on the site as yet but a very nice return to form after their recent issues.

JG 17th September 2017 09:25

Looks like they have nicked Towed's idea :spy:

It's the sort of 356 speedster that appeals to me though

lancelot link 17th September 2017 09:58

Looking at the screen style and angle and body width , I'd say its a glue-on in their usual style rather than a fully body/chassis idea like Towed's ...looks interesting though ...does anyone know the donor ?

Jaguartvr 17th September 2017 14:22

Pictures look very nice, not normally my cuppa tea but that could tempt me.

Looking at the windscreen I would guess it is based on a Boxter, very neat conversion if it is. I love the way that he has managed to keep the original roof so that if still folds away completely. It also appears
to have kept the rear pop up spoiler, modern twist on an old style. Love it.

I think MrTowed would be well advised to sink his recent windfall into one of these instead of his intended project.

Having had a second look I can feel my wallet twitching.

redratbike 17th September 2017 16:37

https://starkespeedster.com Like this one

Barber 17th September 2017 17:36

Less is more as they say. Less information and no doubt more money.

lancelot link 17th September 2017 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 90693)
I think MrTowed would be well advised to sink his recent windfall into one of these instead of his intended project.

I think he could do a lot worse than recreate another car in a similar vein to the S*mmio he's just sold ....

molleur 17th September 2017 18:12

Again, Starke has produced only renderings so far. They say a
pre-production model will be shown in Las Vegas end of this month.
Very expensive and different.

tricky360 18th September 2017 19:31

Dna have changed direction from doing kits to doing bespoke builds now
This speedster is one of the first in a hopefully long line of cars , some will be going in to production, some will be limited numbers and some will be completely one offs
They will be doing the development and production and will be the point of contact for the speedster but it's not a Dna car

Jaguartvr 18th September 2017 21:38

Shame it's not going to be a kit.

Barber 19th September 2017 14:29

Porsche 986/987 it says now.
They are speaking to you Jag

peterux 20th September 2017 17:53

Reading this....
http://www.revolution-porsche.co.uk/...he-boxster-986
....makes me think that the Boxster could be an expensive donor.

This ones not for me. The attraction of the original Speedster is its diminutive size. I think the Chesil 'recreations' are just beautiful.

Munky 21st September 2017 03:45

I've seen pics that Starke have sent out to those interested and also more recently the WestCoast Customs car based on the Boxster coupe and can tell you, what Brian has developed is streets ahead.

Peterux, I've been a long term 356 dreamer and have owned an Intermeccanica speedster (early one with tons of original parts) and more recently a very highly specced JPS coupe (think new everything, 140bhp engine, leather interior, aircon, disc brakes all round, freeway flyer transmission) and it still was too much of a handful driving it in a straight line down the freeway at more than 55. What was worse was seeing a bunch of people in modern trashed cars driving by, as if it was nothing (while I was white knuckle riding it).

I would strongly recommend driving a 356 kit based on a bug down the motorway, before you fall deeply enough to let go of the cash.

For that reason alone, I think a Boxster base is a great idea if not bigger than the original.

Jaguartvr 21st September 2017 11:21

It is going to be only available as a finished car, which will put it out of my price range. Shame but I can see the reasoning and would have to agree with it.
Being a much larger car to me is a big plus, not a replica but a car in its own right.
Good luck to DNA for this new venture but I don't think they are going to need it.

smash 21st September 2017 11:38

For me it's simply too big - let alone with the blistered arches.

The trouble is the original is petite, it's part of it's charm - the ratios work. So if you put the original styling clues on something probably 40% bigger it will just look wrong at that scale especially when it's 4:3 stretched to 16:9.

It needs to have less of the original/exact type clues to allow your head to "accept" it that scale IMHO. The renders which look great but there's nothing to give you scale and that's crucial. Bit like Beach buggies - SWB is what everyone has in head and look perfect - when you see a LWB one in real life you go "Ewwww..."

I know DNA's work is one of the best n the business and if anyone can do it it's them but I think this ones a stretch too far (literally). Have a look at 911 speedster pics - look at the rear deck height c/w doors and front wings (much lower) - imagine bringing them up to same height, blistering arches and giving it 356 styling....

Boxster has been around for 21 years now and people have been discussing the idea on the net for at least 10 according to Google - makes you wonder why it was never done before....

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...rica-gs-15.jpg

@Munky - interesting you already know what Brian has developed?

Lucky@LeMans 21st September 2017 12:43

With turn key cars only being available they will be selling to a different audience . Look at how popular the new Mini is. Yes, loads bigger but with retro styling.

Jaguartvr 21st September 2017 19:37

Picture of actual car under development.

http://www.dnaoc.co.uk/index.php/top...cseen.html#new

very nice

molleur 21st September 2017 19:45

Nice, but HUGE

smash 21st September 2017 20:14

And long...

redratbike 21st September 2017 22:50

An original 911 early body would be a seller as well I reckon

Car photographer 22nd September 2017 00:07

Hmm, I've been suggesting this ever since I got a boxster

smash 30th October 2017 13:07

West Coast Customs Porsche Cayman based 356 - major widening!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW6t9U58RVs

Jaguartvr 30th October 2017 13:30

Can't say I like it simply because of the horrible rear profile due to the engine.
I really like the shape and size of the DNA Speedster. Original is so small it looks like a toy car.

smash 30th October 2017 15:50

They used a fixed head lol! The fact its removable is bonus.

Toy? Did you see how much they had to add the width?!

The pics on DNA website are renderings - let's see what it looks in real life against something to show scale....

tricky360 30th October 2017 19:40

The pics on Dna web site are of the buck
Then sent to the computer guy who adds details
All the boring bits are being done now , flanges and returns

DSG4ME 31st October 2017 08:20

Starke just unveiled their Speedster Revolution. Another Boxter based 356 Speedster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqPkoP1tyd8

Jaguartvr 31st October 2017 08:54

The only problem (for me) is that they are ready built, takes them way out of my price range and most of my enjoyment would be building it.

I would be great to see Tribute make Speedster kit based on a Boxter. I don't think it would take any sales away from DNA, it could even bring DNA more sales from buyers who would like a Tribute Speedster but don't have the time or the skill set to make one. Look how well DNA did with the 2fifty and Tribute with the 250swb, similar cars but due to the price difference totally different markets. I was getting very close to selling my soul so I could buy a DNA 2 fifty but they then went fully built only, I can understand why but it took it so far out of my price range that it just wasn't worth thinking about.

priceofhistoys 14th November 2017 15:54

Im guessing the last build (250 cal) finally got the attention of the lawyers at Ferrari

lancelot link 14th November 2017 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by priceofhistoys (Post 91775)
Im guessing the last build (250 cal) finally got the attention of the lawyers at Ferrari

Yes DNA have gone very quiet on the Mediterranean Donkey front , lots of speculation flying around but nothing confirmed ...I'm not about to add any hearsay I've picked up to the discussion as I wouldn't want to get it wrong ...

It looks like they are concentrating on the established German sector for a bit ...

ON A SIDE NOTE , I was reading about Modena Classics a few days back , they built the cars for the Ferris Beuller film ...3 in total , I believe ... They were served with a cease and desist notice just after the film was released ...

I think if you are going to f*ck with anybody ...taking the pi$$ out of rich , influential Italians , may not be the best move ....

priceofhistoys 14th November 2017 22:46

Purely speculation on my part. But it is worth noting that even the DNA "USA" website is no longer around and I cant seem to find a trace of their facebook page anymore. Instead they have been replaced with a website that you can rent the 250 and 430 for weddings and such.

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Hope they are not having the same problem as DNA.

Barber 18th November 2017 19:57

The moon fruit site is still up. But it looks like the folk peddling high mark up cars are being taken out.

lancelot link 18th November 2017 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barber (Post 91918)
The moon fruit site is still up. But it looks like the folk peddling high mark up cars are being taken out.

I think you can see it because its in your computer memory ...I can see it too but I was told earlier it had been taken down ...

I , as a trader , would love to hear from someone who knows whats happening ...but I am guessing that won't happen ... if its as I suspect it might be ..the old badge misuse game ...Company near me nearly 30 years ago had a destruction notice issued for doing that ..the original 250 GTO / 240Z kits ...

I would like to think that my decisions to emulate not replicate will keep me out of the current goings on ...in a selfish way !!

Barber 18th November 2017 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancelot link (Post 91920)
I think you can see it because its in your computer memory ...I can see it too but I was told earlier it had been taken down ...

I , as a trader , would love to hear from someone who knows whats happening ...but I am guessing that won't happen ... if its as I suspect it might be ..the old badge misuse game ...Company near me nearly 30 years ago had a destruction notice issued for doing that ..the original 250 GTO / 240Z kits ...

I would like to think that my decisions to emulate not replicate will keep me out of the current goings on ...in a selfish way !!

I think the clue is that some people are effectively representing their cars as the real marque. Egg making copies of landmark cars.

The moon fruit sit comes up on Google. I am using a new phone for the first time today, so no Web history.:icon_wink:

lancelot link 18th November 2017 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barber (Post 91921)
I think the clue is that some people are effectively representing their cars as the real marque. Egg making copies of landmark cars.

The moon fruit sit comes up on Google. I am using a new phone for the first time today, so no Web history.:icon_wink:

OH OK ..Not a cookies thing then ...well that's good ...If the sites are still up , that's not as bad as I was imagining ......

Jaguartvr 19th November 2017 00:41

moonfruit down for me

Barber 19th November 2017 07:10

When I checked this am, it is only the Cobra page

http://nubodiautos.moonfruit.com/kobra/4593423432

but once on the site you can go to all the pages.

Jaguartvr 19th November 2017 07:48

Hopefully, it is just the websites being upgraded. The moonfruit site is now working.

Very nice Kobra in baby blue with a white stripe, really suits it with the wires and whitewalls. 250 style grill looks good too, not to in your face.

Lucky@LeMans 19th November 2017 14:59

What's the moonfruit thing about ??

I checked the site and its all good for me.

I don't think the build agent would have issues with F*****. Surely it will be the kit supplier that holds the moulds who would be the target ?

lancelot link 19th November 2017 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky@LeMans (Post 91955)
What's the moonfruit thing about ??

I checked the site and its all good for me.

I don't think the build agent would have issues with F*****. Surely it will be the kit supplier that holds the moulds who would be the target ?

I think Moonfruit is the website hoster , bit like GoDaddy or similar businesses who put websites together using templates and stuff .

If the issue is the badges , then that will be down to whoever fits them ...I know that Tribute are very clear that they don't and haven't badged anything up ...When a car leaves them , then they are not able to control what happens afterwards .....

The websites up , so everything's fine , in theory ...I am sure I would have heard something if different ......

DNA definitely have had a run in ...sounds like anyone selling their stuff has been approached too .....but who knows ..time will tell , I guess ...


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