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Tribute Automotive 7th December 2013 16:01

A side window template was scaled up on an overhead projector, remember those from your school days?

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psbba39981.jpg

This allowed the start of the side window opening to be formed

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2d765bf1.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps50f3a524.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psb789fc3a.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps258ebfe3.jpg

An accurate rear window was always going to be a problem, the MGB GT one we are using is an available compromise. Another solution could be to get them formed in Lexan, but cost may be an issue, as would the chrome trim. I will be looking into this issue further.

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psb69b70f9.jpg

Ollie 7th December 2013 16:39

Mmmmm....
 
Really like the way this one is shaping up....
Please please keep the overhang on the front as minimal as possible....
I'm sure you've done your workings Chris, with the lovely new window shape, are they still going to open ok..?
Looking foreward to the next update pics...
Is it just me, or is Chris's work getting addictive, i check for updates every day...!!

y cymro 7th December 2013 17:10

Superb job lads. This really is coming along nicely. It will be brilliant if you can get the rear screen sorted.

y cymro 7th December 2013 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollie (Post 49523)
Looking foreward to the next update pics...
Is it just me, or is Chris's work getting addictive, i check for updates every day...!!

I agree. It's the only thread I check every day.

WorldClassAccident 7th December 2013 17:45

This guy likes his cars (I bought my original Scimitar from him) and he also does custom Lexan screens for boats. He is based in a barn about 300 metres from the Beaulie motor museum. Nice guy Nick runs it and he is always happy to talk, and talk, and talk...

Mitchelkitman 7th December 2013 19:36

For me lexan will ruin it - sorry but only REAL glass will do!

y cymro 7th December 2013 20:30

I'll be fine with polycarb, particularly if it's the only way to achieve the complex curves at a reasonable cost. With a hard coating on the outside and anti fog on the inside it should do a good job.

Mitchelkitman 7th December 2013 20:47

I've been trying for some time to find a catalogue with basic dimensions of glass (like you can with batteries for instance). I know it probably won't help with the rear window - but maybe the side?
Anyway, googling several phrases, I found there is a US and Canada document called NAGS (National Auto Glass Specification) which is published several times a year, and they also do older cars (1990's ). Could be useful? Anyone in the trade in UK know of similar? US/Canada says it has world cars, so may be useful, but of course a UK 'version' would be more easily obtainable/cheaper?
This sort of info could open up all sorts of possibilities!!!

y cymro 7th December 2013 22:22

Chris, I think you've done a better job on those rear wheel arches than Pinninfarina :icon_biggrin:

Mister Towed 8th December 2013 09:17

Can't you just pop into your nearest Ferrari dealer's parts dept and ask the man in the oily overalls with a fag hanging from the corner of his mouth for a rear screen and surround for a 1959 250 GT Berlinetta SWB? Surely they'd have a few in stock. Shouldn't be more than about forty quid and you can always ask if there's a discount for cash. :flypig:

y cymro 8th December 2013 09:48

I thought Euro Car Parts might have had something, especially as they were offering 50% off everything last week.
Will email Ferrari Classische and see how that goes. Perhaps they have a sale on.

y cymro 8th December 2013 10:02

A polycarb rear screen should be fairly easy to fabricate if it has only a simple curve across the width of the car and is straight running down the C pillars. Or would straight pillars look wrong?

Down&Out 8th December 2013 11:32

If this gets dishy wires when its finished as well i shall be entirely sold!

casamolino 8th December 2013 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Down&Out (Post 49556)
If this gets dishy wires when its finished as well i shall be entirely sold!

Hi Down&Out my initial plan included buying a set of 15" wires from an early E Type Jag but when the adaptors are fitted to the hubs i decided that the front track would be just to wide! having seen WCA`s car that may in hindsight turn out to be a mistake , saying that i love my Minilites , Geoff .

Ollie 8th December 2013 13:29

Y Cymro, i believe Chris will be using the rear screen and chrome trim from an MGB GT, so it will look "correct" anyway...
Its gonna be nice..

y cymro 8th December 2013 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollie (Post 49559)
Y Cymro, i believe Chris will be using the rear screen and chrome trim from an MGB GT, so it will look "correct" anyway...
Its gonna be nice..

I agree that an MGB screen is a good idea as a low cost option. However, to replicate the delicate look of the original car something will need to be done to slim the C pillar. That could be using paint, or better still, moulding a concave swage line in the sloping, vertical face of the pillar, parallel to the horizontal surface.
But lets see where we get to in polycarb first.

y cymro 8th December 2013 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 49530)
This guy likes his cars (I bought my original Scimitar from him) and he also does custom Lexan screens for boats. He is based in a barn about 300 metres from the Beaulie motor museum. Nice guy Nick runs it and he is always happy to talk, and talk, and talk...

Nick, which guy is this?
Steve

zagmad 8th December 2013 20:36

depnding on the width and depth- austin allegro,alfa romeo 1974 2000 gtv rear window any good a fit. has depth on the side profile even camper van windows have an angled depth from the sides not sure of height or width on these options. just ideas

y cymro 8th December 2013 21:20

Allegro and Alfa are too wide, though both are good suggestions. I already have a plan around the Alfa screen, the curvature of which is too great at the lower edge. The earlier 105 series GT should be a little narrower and I've found a supplier who can provide this off the shelf in polycarb at 190. The curves can be cut to suit providing the resulting overall width is correct. Plan to get dimensions tomorrow, then speak with Chris.
Please keep the suggestions coming.

y cymro 8th December 2013 21:55

Here are the notes made from the rambling thoughts I've had so far:

Original scaled from a diagram - is 970-1000m wide and 525-550mm high
MGB GT rear is 950 wide by 600 high and slightly curved and is probably the best low cost option.
Aston DB5 is about same size as SWB
Gee Whiz electric car front screen is 1000 wide by 650 high. Width tapers from 1000 to 860mm. It is absolutely flat.
Scimitar rear screen is 960mm wide at the top 1160 at bottom 620 high
Front screen Capri?
Rear screen Mini or Sprite front screen upside down?
Opel Manta A rear - best? (added later too narrow)
Austin 1100 rear screen - too long and narrow? - about 52" wide. Car is 60.5".
Ordinary Z3 is 66.5"
2.8 is 70"
250GTO is 63"
Alfa GT step-front rear screen?
Suzuki tiny van front
Mini front upside down
Sunbeam Alpine
Opel Manta Coupe B rear
Vauxhall Firenza rear upside down - could be good
Vauxhall Viva HA front upside down
Mini Mk3 rear screen - too narrow


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