For me it’s the gapping of the panels and there shape that I am concentrating on. As you can’t see both sides of the car at the same time. I was also pointed out by some body shop guys that many 1950s and some 1960s cars weren’t the same size panels on both sides including a Italian prancing horse.
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Chris - This is quite a tricky one to answer.
On the one hand, most people will not notice the imperfections in the first place. (Especially when all the body work is one colour.) On the other hand, if it really bothers you now, it is likely to still bother you going forward. In the end, I made my peace with the fact that I just couldn't achieve a profession standard of bodywork on my build. :rolleyes: That is not to say I didn't spend a LOT of time trying to get everything as good as I possibly could. But in the end, it came down to me wanting to get the car on the road more than spending even longer trying to achieve perfection. Whilst I can still point out every fault that I didn't fix, there is no need to as no one else cares. :D As always, your car, your choice. Good luck, Paul. :) |
Straigt lines.... Sammio.... :rofl:
Sorry, no offence meant, but given that i built one and i've been in the same position as you, i know what you're going through and all the best of luck with whatever you do! Straight lines... classic! |
None taken davecymru.
I guess my question was really about whether my bonnet is 'good enough'. I am very happy to follow the sammio collective on this. Thanks again all. |
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Then, when the whole front end is a single colour, your eyes will be drawn to any areas that look ‘wrong’. I know my own patchwork quilt of original car, new fibreglass and body filler looked worst than it was before paint. Good luck, Paul. :) |
Another question on bodywork. What is the quickest, easiest and cheapest way to build-up the glass fibe bodywork? I have areas that I want to build-up by 20mm and given they are quite large this will require alot of body filler. Not sure how strong a thick layer of filler will be. So wondering about using some bits of the Sammio that I have cut-off (oops - hope none of them were important!!) cutting them into rectangles, sticking them to the panel and putting filler around. Any thoughts?
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CJ – I’d also suggest following Molleur’s advice about building up the thickness with fibreglass matting.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Given how rough my car is in places, feel free to ignore what I did when building my scuttle. :icon_wink: As I made some ‘Home Brew’ filler, that started with some scraps of fibreglass matting. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x...o/DSCF3164.JPG Then resin and catalyst are added as normal. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q...o/DSCF3184.JPG This created a rough sea of fibreglass. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...o/DSCF3186.JPG Before an angle grinder removed the peaks and left a series of voids. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...o/DSCF3194.JPG Which acted as a good key for the ‘normal’ fibreglass filler. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...o/DSCF3197.JPG - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Good luck, Paul. :) |
CJ – I had some more thoughts on your options…
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I did this on several occasions using rope to cross brace my bonnet and boot lid. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hJ...=w1154-h865-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_3...=w1154-h865-no In fact, for my new scuttle, I even used plastic trunking and plasticine to give me a shape to work with. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...o/DSCF3104.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...o/DSCF3105.JPG Before adding layers of matting over the top. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X...o/DSCF3114.JPG Note: This created the void where I stuffed my home brew fibreglass filler in (see previous post). Good luck, Paul. :) |
Thanks guys for the advice.
Paul, as always, you are so generous with your helpful ideas. |
Just had another thought.
On the scuttle I have an area where I have put a a couple of layers of matt covered by 10mm skin of filler. Given the advice above, do I need to sand off that 10mm layer or can I get away with putting more matt on top? |
As always, take my advice with a pinch of salt...
But I'd say it depends... If the filler area was small and the matting was going to cover the filler area completely and 'stick' to fibreglass beyond the outside edges of the filler, it might be OK. But if the filler area was large and the matting small, so it was solely on the filler, then maybe not so much. |
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Just noticed that CFS sell bags of schopped strands. £24.14 for 5kg bag. Looks like another of your techniques that I will be copying. Just got to cut away the filler that I have wasted first. |
Thought about the 5kg bags of chopped strands overnight and realised that 5kg of chopped strand mat costs less than £5!
Anyway, out with the angle grinder this afternoon and removed the 5kg of body filler that I had used to try and build out the off-side/front of the main tub. Then I ran some strings along the side of the tub at various heights and confirmed that the lines of the near-side of the tub are pretty straight - lets say 'Sammio' straight. Whereas there is a definite gap to be filled-in (as shown below) on the offside. https://i.postimg.cc/fWpLLQpB/IMG-0446.jpg. In fact this photo under-eggs the gap because the piece of wood is only about 18" long. Running the string along the side of the cockpit shows the gap to be more like 10mm + as per below. https://i.postimg.cc/Dwqw1xWP/file3-5.jpg So having ground-off the filler I spent the rest of the afternoon put a number of layers of mat to build-up the area between my 2 x correx spacers. |
As long as you are happy with the final shape that is all that matters.
Good luck, Paul. :) |
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I like your approach to bodywork detail I also have had fiberglass work on the arches I am also on my second attempt but the time spent now will pay off in the end result or so I am told. Yours is look well Dave
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Still pressing-on.
https://i.postimg.cc/0y6q15tn/file-8.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/T3Zvd8F6/file1-4-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7YZkXn0p/file2-4-1.jpg The shape is there but still working at getting it flat and smooth. At what stage should I move from using bonding paste to fill holes to using bidy filler? Bonding paste is hard work to rub down and I feel that the cycle seems to be add paste, remove paste then add more paste and repeat!! Anybody got any tips? |
Try fibreglass reinforced filler for larger gaps/holes with standard filler over the top once it's set and been roughly sanded.
It's not as easy to use as ordinary filler as the fibre strands mean it clings to itself and doesn't spread out very easily, but it'll fill voids without cracking later on. Nice to see it's still being built, keep up the good work! |
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