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Car photographer 15th July 2015 15:37

1st kit car Fiorano
 
Hi everyone,
I'm just in the process of possibly purchasing my first kit car a Fiorano Type 48 spyder .... if it all goes through I'll post up some details etc, but for now - fingers crossed :)

Here's what it currently looks like - http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u...iorano-kit.jpg

... and for anyone who hasn't heard of this particular kit before - here's an example of what it should hopefully look like when it's done - http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u...015/07/1-1.jpg

oxford1360 15th July 2015 16:26

Was that the one on eBay that has now sold? It looked a terrific bargain.

Car photographer 15th July 2015 16:52

Yes must have been the same one I guess - I'd wanted one for a while but couldn't afford it until I noticed this one.
But I'm new to this and just hope it's not too difficult to put together (also I currently have no where to keep it!! :(

oxford1360 15th July 2015 16:54

Problems like storage can be overcome - particularly when they are a necessity! It was the right thing to buy it when you did. You'll be fine.

Car photographer 15th July 2015 17:01

Cheers

redratbike 15th July 2015 22:57

Lovely cars

Guy in charlton first built them then someone in bromley kent took over I have a brochure somewhere

Car photographer 15th July 2015 23:52

Yeah there don't seem to be many people building them at the moment - and I keep looking for them every year at Stoneleigh and never seem to find any
Has the company gone out of business now?
Has anyone here ever built one?

redratbike 16th July 2015 10:29

It's wan old kit now don't even think it's being made anymore

Car photographer 16th July 2015 10:43

Yes that's what I thought

jonkoxe 16th July 2015 11:34

Well the website is still live...
http://www.corsaspyder.com/

Car photographer 16th July 2015 12:36

Yeah I found that - there used to be a forum on there but it seems to have gone now - might just try emailing them :)

Car photographer 19th July 2015 09:38

Ok so I emailed the site and got a reply back - it seems that they are still selling the kit if people want them so that's good news, but alas there isn't a forum anymore - but then we do have this great forum anyway :)

Car photographer 22nd July 2015 10:27

ok, I've got a bit of a dilemma - I'm confused as to what type of electrical loom to try and fit.
the car does not come with a loom, so presumably I could fit whatever I wanted to?
I was talking to a spitfire parts dealer and he mentioned that older spitfires like the mk3 - that had a dynamo, had a 12 volt system .... but the later mk4 cars had an alternator and a 6 volt setup but with 12 volts on startup (or something like that) - because of the points always burning out on the 12 v systems.

now the car i've bought has a 1500 spitfire engine and appears to have an alternator with it.

the question is - should I try and get a spitfire loom and then have the dilemma of whether to go 12v or 6v system, or should I get a generic kit car loom which would be much cheaper - and if so, will it affect the points or any other systems on the car adversly?

thanks

Paul

oxford1360 22nd July 2015 12:57

I've never heard of a 6v system on a Spit or Herald.......and the points justification sounds bizarre.

A 1500 loom that you trim down accordingly is your best bet I would suggest. A generic loom might be neater/newer but will require some adapting.

Afterthought: Actually, if you are not using any of the Spit components such as lights there is no good reason to use a Spit loom.

redratbike 22nd July 2015 15:10

Get a universal wiring loom kit with fusebox like painless or iditit ... Lots of hot rod guys and kitcar builders use them

Car photographer 22nd July 2015 21:37

cheers guys

swifty 23rd July 2015 07:13

Nice looking kit and looking forward to the build posts, i had toyed with the idea of building something similar myself once the ribble is finished but had not seen these. There looks to be a very nice british racing green with yellow nose on their web site, i especially like the side running exhaust, look to be the dogs bollocks.

For a wiring loom i fitted a Langys loom used by a lot of the hot rods, easy to fit and the cable's are labeled every 6 inches, comes with a fuse box with relays too.

Here's the link http://www.langysrodshop.co.uk/wiring_kits.htm.

Car photographer 23rd July 2015 17:56

Yeah I saw that green one too - still trying to decide what colour to go for myself - but it's a long way off yet :)

Paul L 24th July 2015 07:14

Car Photographer - Good luck with your new project, it is a nice looking kit. :cool:

Sorry for the late response, but I have a 1980 Spitfire 1500 and it is 12v all around.

Even though I am re-using the original wiring loom on my kit, I would recommend the Langy's one.

As it will save a lot of time changing connectors and lengthening/shorting wires on an original loom.

Cheers, Paul. :)

Car photographer 24th July 2015 09:24

Thanks Paul,
I've got another issue now though, I looked up the engine and it turns out that it's not a 1500 spitfire one afterall but a 1300 dolomite one - prefix is ' DH'
But the number seems to be crossed out with 'x' over every letter - is this normal?

Car photographer 24th July 2015 10:24

So here's how it currently looks -
http://www.paulward.net/?attachment_id=2125
Hmm - pics aren't showing now on my pc - so here's the link - http://www.paulward.net/?attachment_id=2125 http://www.paulward.net/?attachment_id=2125

here's that engine number - not sure if they are supposed to look like this or not?
http://www.paulward.net/?attachment_id=2124
http://www.paulward.net/?attachment_id=2124
http://www.paulward.net/?attachment_id=2124

oxford1360 24th July 2015 11:34

What does it say on your V5?

Car photographer 24th July 2015 19:23

weird - it says 'FMHE' - what does that mean?

oxford1360 24th July 2015 20:15

That's a generic reference to the Spitfire 1500 engine. FM was the prefix and HE the suffix. There would normally be digits in between. It certainly doesn't refer to the engine that you have.

Car photographer 25th July 2015 08:31

Thanks

Car photographer 27th July 2015 18:45

Got the brake lines fitted today .... and so the brakes now work :)

Car photographer 27th July 2015 18:46

.... and got my old mk 3 spitfire MOT'd ready to sell it.

Car photographer 1st August 2015 21:06

Steering column located and fitted this week and today we got the engine started for the first time :)

Car photographer 8th August 2015 00:59

So today we got the exhaust in place - sounds pretty good! used a mini sports backbox and fabricated a pipe from the down pipe to the backbox
Also, got a set of old MG TF wire wheels from fleabay for £200 - used some specially made longer adapters Recommended by the samio / ribble builders to fit them to the spitfire. hubs http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u...8/DSC_0611.jpg
http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u...8/DSC_0603.jpg

Car photographer 8th August 2015 01:08

so now got my Spitfire up for sale to make room - and cash!! :(
http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u.../07/spit-1.jpg

Car photographer 10th August 2015 13:06

took a short video of when we first started the car with the exhaust fitted - https://youtu.be/um_mPjQjBjc

Paul L 11th August 2015 07:04

Car Photographer – That is one serious tail pipe. :eek:

Did you get to the bottom of the “crossed out” engine numbers?

Good luck, Paul. :)

Car photographer 11th August 2015 12:52

Yeah, it's only a cheap mini one off ebay but it sounds great!!
not really, a few people have said it has that mark if it's recon or rebored, but I'm not sure - as long as it goes ok I suppose I'm not bothered

thanks

redratbike 11th August 2015 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Car photographer (Post 70051)
so now got my Spitfire up for sale to make room - and cash!! :(
http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u.../07/spit-1.jpg

Any more pics and details ...looks pretty trick to me

Car photographer 12th August 2015 02:02

Here's the listing for it - there's a few pics and a summary of details on the link. I'd priced it fairly high because I was expecting people to try and offer - so I am prepared to move on the price
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C641911

Car photographer 12th August 2015 02:03

It probably looks better than it actually is though

Car photographer 12th August 2015 19:45

Got the radiator in now - http://www.paulward.net/wp-content/u...8/DSC_0636.jpg

mas123mas 18th August 2015 14:58

Love the shape.

We regards the engine numbers, I thought it meant reconditioned.
On the http://www.triumphspitfire.com/enginenumbers.html
"These engines often had its original number oblitterated by overstamping, usually with the letter 'X' and a special plate rivetted to the block on the vertical face of the boss which carried the original engine number."

Is there any other plate on yours?

I have been on contact with Fiorano with regards purchasing a kit, not sure at present, what to do with the Miglia and the Vitesse chassis, do I sell and get one of these or attempt the Miglia (anyone interested PM me).

Car photographer 18th August 2015 22:15

cheers for the info,

the chassis on these needs to be lengthened slightly so I'm not sure if that would be an issue or not for you on your vitesse chassis,

Ironically I really wanted a miglia too before I found this!

Paul L 24th August 2015 10:40

Car Photographer - I saw your DVLA questions on the Tribute tread, so thought I'd post this link here:

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...ead.php?t=5192

As Sammio & Miglia builds (new body on existing chassis) are probably closer to your kit than the Tribute approach (body panels on a monocoque shell).

I think the key to your approach to the DVLA will what details are on the existing V5C.

Although your last post makes me slightly nervous...

"...the chassis on these needs to be lengthened slightly..."

As long as this lengthening process is via "something" bolted to the chassis you have a chance.

However, if your chassis has been "cut & shut" to make it a few inches longer, then that will be a major problem.

The "8 Point rule" allows you to keep the donor Spitfire's registration number provided you have an original, unmodified, chassis.

You can make minor chassis alterations (I've cut off old bonnet fixing brackets & welded on new brackets).

But you can not make any structural alternations and the new body shell must be bolted into position, not welded.

Just to be clear, you can cut & weld a chassis, or build a new one, but then you lose the donor car's identity.
( Which means a different route to getting registered with the DVLA and will include a IVA test. )

Hope that helps, Paul. :)


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