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Lucky@LeMans 13th November 2017 21:21

Maserati Replica on Ebay
 
Found this listing on ebay for a Maserati 450S replica.

Looks stunning, but similar to some of the cars we see on this forum which are in some cases just as nice.

What caught my eye was the £ 129,950 price tag !!

Ebay item : 222709870902

Mister Towed 14th November 2017 06:22

Ooh, that's a bit special though, even at that price. Now where's my chequebook... Damnit - can't find it. Guess I'll have to build one myself...

Doesn't appear to be road registered though which is a shame.

Mitchelkitman 14th November 2017 17:04

It says it has a V5C though?
I'd not pay 130k for any car, even if I had that sort of cash.

lancelot link 14th November 2017 18:45

It is very nice , some lovely details ..... If you are looking to build something similar Towdie and need a body .............................

micky1mo 23rd November 2017 18:19

The listing says.

""Registered as a 1958 Maserati Historic Vehicle with a V5C document confirming this.""

Very crude interior for the price tag, and it looks like some one removed the seat belts/harnesses :redface:

Dpaz 28th November 2017 19:38

Looks good and the price is probably right for a good replica.

IanA 30th November 2017 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by micky1mo (Post 92059)
...Very crude interior ...

Authentic. Some had brown seats and head pad. Also the allen bolts on the steering wheel could be mushroom heads- correct spacing though.

lancelot link 30th November 2017 20:53

I like the interior , it looks correct , Maserati's are crude inside , functional ..I think it looks the part and some nice aluminium work ..

IanA 4th December 2017 08:09

Obviously an appreciating classic- here for £82k...

http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=165014&country=uk

Jaguartvr 7th December 2017 08:01

Slightly more realistic price. Ideal for Chris & Dan.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Maserati-...EAAOSwSutaIyUd

IanA 7th December 2017 09:07

Oh for some more space...
I bet that door aperture fits within the Z3 opening. Might need a bonnet bulge/scoop as well.

lancelot link 7th December 2017 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanA (Post 92328)
I bet that door aperture fits within the Z3 opening. Might need a bonnet bulge/scoop as well.


I BET IT DOESN'T ....And I think fitting a bonnet scoop would be the least of your issues !!

You'd need to change nearly everything ...easier to buy a Z300S from Tribute and start with that ...

IanA 7th December 2017 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancelot link (Post 92329)
...easier to buy a Z300S from Tribute and start with that ...

Funny you should say that...

And of course it was. However the challenge of utilising the exact shape as a body swap is something I'd try if I had the space. It's probably best that I don't.

Jaguartvr 7th December 2017 12:22

I bet it would go on a Scimitar!

lancelot link 7th December 2017 13:49

IT MIGHT YES ...With a few inches stretch the wheelbase would correct itself but you'd need to stretch it behind the door as the cockpit position would put you sat right on top of the rear 4 bar link top mount......track width needs altering too ...those 350s's are very narrow ...

So , yes it can work if quarterized ...it would make a great car .....it's actually nearer a Vitesse than a Scimitar dimensionally ...

scimjim 8th December 2017 08:08

That depends which Scimitar you’re talking about :)

lancelot link 8th December 2017 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by scimjim (Post 92340)
That depends which Scimitar you’re talking about :)

True ..its close to an SE4 , but the chassis rails are all wrong for a car of this style ...They run parallel to each other right through the area that you sit ...to put the body at the correct height would give the car the look of a S*mmio or similar without the dropped floorpans but actually worse ! ...not good , unless you like pedal cars ! The SE4 is still too wide as well...its closer , but still no cigar !

The SS1 is not too bad on the width ...but its 83'' wheelbase takes it out of the equation ...

There will be a suitable donor I'm sure ...but I don't think it's Scimitar this time ......

scimjim 8th December 2017 10:01

SS1 width is spot on and I don’t know if 7” out of the wheelbase (behind the front wheel?) would kill the proportions?

Mister Towed 8th December 2017 11:40

I'd either go with a Herald/Vitesse chassis which is only 1/2" longer wheelbase than the 300 or, if you want to use a Scimitar SS1 chassis I'd change the styling to the 200si, which came with an 86.6" wheelbase -

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...pspg6nx2cp.jpg

The 200si is a prettier car imho and came with an inline 4 cylinder twin cam as standard, so it should be easier to get a suitable engine into the package - notice how the 200si bonnet is lower between the front wings than the 300 - making it look and sound more authentic. Here's a 200 and a 300 next to each other for comparison -

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...psifelzmnu.jpg

Nice selection of pictures in the link below -

http://www.maserati-alfieri.co.uk/alfieri279.htm

scimjim 8th December 2017 15:37

Prefer the proportions of the 200 Mr T but the Maser wide mouthed frog look doesn’t work for me :)

Anything Herald/Vitesse/Spit based is out of the question for me as it needs to handle properly round a track.

lancelot link 8th December 2017 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by scimjim (Post 92346)

Anything Herald/Vitesse/Spit based is out of the question for me as it needs to handle properly round a track.

OOH ..CONTROVERSIAL ....:smile::smile:

scimjim 8th December 2017 20:03

That’s in addition to the benefit of a galv chassis and 100-135 BHP as standard :)

Mister Towed 9th December 2017 08:10

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...psnnmmijih.jpg

Yes, wouldn't want a real one of those even as a gift, not with that ugly frog face.

And its solid rear axle means the handling is bound to be rubbish on a track. What were Maserati thinking? Everyone knows you can't make a rear beam or swing axle chassis'd car handle. Well, everyone except Maserati, Porsche, Mercedes Benz, Alfa-Romeo, Juan Manuel Fangio, Sir Stirling Moss, etc., etc. And what did they know?

Wouldn't want that engine either, what with it being all alloy instead of a nice, cast iron block like you get with a trusty CVH. I know the CVH had its critics, but that was only really Jeremy Clarkson, who said it was so nasty Moulinex wouldn't use it in their Magimix. Everyone else who drove a CVH engined car loved it. My mum had one, and my sister. And my mother in law! And none of them even noticed its nasty, thrashy coarseness and vibration or were troubled by its fragile cam-belt. I hated the one in my XR3i, but then I think I got a really bad one. Just like everyone else.

Galvanised chassis sounds good though...

scimjim 9th December 2017 08:17

Ermmm......got out of bed the wrong side?

I was comparing the SS1 to the Triumph :)

And although my sprint car SS1 has a CVH and my road car SS1 has an equally flawed K series, my chosen donor has a pretty bullet proof Nissan CA18ET.

Mister Towed 9th December 2017 08:41

Have to agree (for real) about the 1800ti SS1 being a good donor choice for a kit car - galvanised chassis and a truly great engine plus looks only its mother could love mean it's ripe for conversion into something nicer.

Unless you already have one though it's going to be difficult to find, they only made 500 of them while Triumph churned out about 300,000 Spitfires.

I'd put a Puma engine on an RX8 gearbox into the standard SS1 chassis and body it as a 200si - it'd only be about 60mm shorter than the original in the wheelbase so should look right.

Triumph Special 9th December 2017 09:45

I can't be alone in thinking that the car that started this thread is absolutely gopping? It looks like a Maserati viewed through the bottom of a dirty pint glass.

scimjim 9th December 2017 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 92365)
Unless you already have one though it's going to be difficult to find, they only made 500 of them while Triumph churned out about 300,000 Spitfires.

307 Ti SS1 built - I suspect the vast majority survive

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 92365)
I'd put a Puma engine on an RX8 gearbox into the standard SS1 chassis...

I’m not sure the RX8 box would fit, the tunnel is deceptively small and moving the Engine forward is restricted by the inboard dampers (the K series had a different damper mounting crossmember with cutouts to clear the crank pulley!) - I have a box here (destined for one of my GT or GTE) and a few SS1 chassis, so I might measure up?

Mister Towed 9th December 2017 11:21

I have an RX8 five speed box sitting on a '67 spitfire chassis in my garage at the moment ready to take the engine from the 1.7 Puma sat next to it. The Mazda box is actually quite narrow from the bellhousing back, I could take some measurements later if you're interested.

Triumph Special - it looks fine to me from some angles, but it looks too short and too high from the side making it look rather dumpy. That's possibly down to the physical height of the engine, you'd expect a V8 to sit lower than a straight six but with the induction system sitting in the V it's likely to be taller than an inline motor with its induction on the side. Shame there's no pictures of the motor in situ.

lancelot link 9th December 2017 16:16

150 and 200 Maserati's are very pretty little cars ...I do tend to lean more towards the Maserati's than the Ferrari's of that era with a couple of notable exceptions ...

scimjim 9th December 2017 16:43

I can confirm that an RX8 box won’t fit in an SS1 chassis without surgery.

Mick O'Malley 11th December 2017 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by scimjim
Anything Herald/Vitesse/Spit based is out of the question for me as it needs to handle properly round a track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo4_yar0joQ

Regards, Mick

scimjim 11th December 2017 12:49

Just about anything can be made to go fast and handle well if you throw enough money at it. Out of the box though, it doesn’t compare (and yes, I’ve owned a few spitfires)

IanA 12th December 2017 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancelot link (Post 92329)
I BET IT DOESN'T ....And I think fitting a bonnet scoop would be the least of your issues !! ...

Having now seen your impressive Formosa build, I can see what you mean.

However- with your bonnet stretch and wing widening, it shows what can be done.

Paul L 12th December 2017 13:50

As if by magic, this week's Petrolicious's video is a 1959 Birdcage. :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC_hyGcWXII


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