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zagmad 30th November 2015 23:17

The mk1 front doesnt allow for the proportions to look right. Progress hit a wall and stopped for 6 months. So the pre made panels should give it a direction. I probably should of gone down the 2vev path but didn't at the time. Plus my car is showing serious signs of rust so I'm trying to find a way of getting panels set up so I can save my donor from turning to dust before I get to drive it. A garage I used to do some repairs shut down and I think they damaged my body work and the rust has set in because of their incompetence. Probably why they shut down. Peoples exhausts were falling off. Etc .

zagmad 30th November 2015 23:26

They were a local company in the lovely town of Aldershot. Many army soldiers brought their sports cars to be modified and eventually found that the work done was shoddy. My car started off as an import with no rust and it came back after I asked them to put a stone chip treatment that rust is coming through so obviously they had just sprayed my car with black paint and not the thick tar stuff they were spose to do. Knowing that our roads are plastered with salt in the winter I invested in the treatment. Life sucks sometimes.

zagmad 30th November 2015 23:33

So if I can get the Alfa/fiat panels on I might be able to save my car from turning to dust. Harsh but that's life. Has a way of reminding you how puny man is and that we can only control so much, nature eventually bites back eg the English weather. Rain and more rain. Plus mans greed.

zagmad 30th November 2015 23:51

I've ordered a front wing and front end for the Alfa. And what I'm hoping is the rear wing for the fiat . So fingers crossed something arrives in the next two weeks. If it is what I think then possibly. I'll get a bonnet on the way and a passenger wing and go from their. The Dino rear I've been told takes alot longer so maybe new year will give me the answer I've been looking for. Id like to pop into the workshop next week to apply some rust treatment to keep it at bay. At the moment the back end can be adapted to work with Alfa front so that's a plus just needs a solid section placed across the wing and the taillight plate sunk in. They do rear wings as well so that will cut down on time. All profiles matching both sides saving tine and effort. Just needs blending into the swb roof line

Roadster 1st December 2015 05:52

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Originally Posted by zagmad (Post 73060)
I've ordered a front wing and front end for the Alfa. And what I'm hoping is the rear wing for the fiat . So fingers crossed something arrives in the next two weeks. If it is what I think then possibly. I'll get a bonnet on the way and a passenger wing and go from their. The Dino rear I've been told takes alot longer so maybe new year will give me the answer I've been looking for. Id like to pop into the workshop next week to apply some rust treatment to keep it at bay. At the moment the back end can be adapted to work with Alfa front so that's a plus just needs a solid section placed across the wing and the taillight plate sunk in. They do rear wings as well so that will cut down on time. All profiles matching both sides saving tine and effort. Just needs blending into the swb roof line

I Suggest you slap a load of Vactan over the exposed metal - its army grade rust inhibitor favoured by the land rover and aircooled communites.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VACTAN-RUS...5pkU5IhpgzgyUQ

Doesn't matter which body you end up with - mx5's need to be maintained against corrosion. I had my sills etc done before I commenced with the bodywork of my roadster.

Thankfully the Z3 seems to have been prepared much better against corrosion.

Roadster 1st December 2015 11:31

interceptor
 
http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psxvp7xd6o.jpg

Im thinking Toyota MR-S donor built like the RS200 kit.
I always thought the Tribute rs200 deserved more fans.

zagmad 1st December 2015 18:19

Looks brutal and aggressive. Nice.

zagmad 1st December 2015 18:21

The Mr s has a similar system to the z3 with its panels so they all pop off.

zagmad 1st December 2015 18:23

Kind of batmans car mixed with a jag bertone concept.

Mister Towed 4th December 2015 06:54

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Separate subject entirely, ever been to Specsavers?

zagmad 4th December 2015 17:39

Ford mad max concept. Simon brook 11 concept car. Mid engine.

zagmad 6th December 2015 09:54

I wonder if dsg4me could combine the swb roof line with the Alfa Romeo junior 1600 gt . Eg swb down to the window line then Alfa down to the ground. I was thinking intercepter hard lines at the bottom and softer flowing lines at the top. That kind of thing. 70's meets 60's.

Roadster 6th December 2015 10:25

How about this version of the 250
"Tour de France"
Looks like kobra front will lend to the design and 250 swb rear could be modified

https://youtu.be/f1m_v6FFTq0

Video shows that these long distance racers were dainty, stripped down interiors and their v12 just 200bhp

I love the blue period colour and the black exhaust isn't a trip hazard

Roadster 13th December 2015 11:49

Maybe this is a direction for the future of kit cars

I understand why people spend a fortune on making Ferrari and Lamborghini replicas. Some are pretty convincing too even if the donor was a Peugeot.

But there are lots more interesting shapes out there, plenty of tiny bespoke companies making super / hyper cars.

In truth you wouldn't have to make an exact replica there are very few that have ever seen the likes of it.

Heres a few for inspiration -

Fenyr
https://youtu.be/luT7zVSKGmg

Lightning GT
https://youtu.be/lD5bC23mmI8

Fisker
https://youtu.be/hgCSz8PrM3c

Zenvo
https://youtu.be/0mkko2Sk4Q4

Roadster 16th December 2015 16:05

How about one of these
A sketch of concept car with its roof removed.
I would love one of these
Im sure the panels could easily be draped over Z3 Z4 or maybe E36 Bmw Convertible would give you 4 seat fun

But I know this brand doesn't take kindly to people being influenced by their styling but if they don't want to build it :)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psjcjnfpb1.jpg

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psa40h6z8g.jpg

y cymro 17th December 2015 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster (Post 73406)
How about one of these
A sketch of concept car with its roof removed.
I would love one of these
Im sure the panels could easily be draped over Z3 Z4 or maybe E36 Bmw Convertible would give you 4 seat fun

But I know this brand doesn't take kindly to people being influenced by their styling but if they don't want to build it :)

Go on Chris, build a B*ntley.
What could possibly go wrong? :peep:

oxford1360 17th December 2015 21:59

This would do it for me x100.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...482668&alt=web

oxford1360 18th December 2015 11:33

It sold within minutes of being listed. Slightly under-priced I think.....and they took an offer.

y cymro 18th December 2015 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford1360 (Post 73431)

That was a bargain for someone - a lot of bodyshell for less that 2 1/2 grand.

zagmad 24th January 2016 10:11

Call me nutty but I would like to see what an swb roof line would look on an Alfa Romeo 1750 gta body. Just curious . Hard broad lines like shoulders with the swoopy lines of the swb at the top.

y cymro 24th January 2016 10:19

Zag, I know of a 105 series roof if you're looking for one :wink:

zagmad 24th January 2016 10:28

:-). Well it would be for the glass returns and then have them tilted into the swb roof to keep with the 2 seater appeal. I was looking at a lancia fulvia hf roof but its too angular to flow into the softened lines of the guilea sprint gta 1965 style . What to do? I contacted one company and they wanted 500. 125 over my budget. And that's before tax and delivery.

zagmad 24th January 2016 10:29

That was for the back half not a whole roof. :-(

y cymro 24th January 2016 10:37

The Alfa 105 series (especially an early step-front GTA or Sprint) and particularly the series 3 Fulvia are amongst my prettiest ever cars. Unfortunately, you can't buy either for 100 any more. A Tribute would be fantastic

zagmad 24th January 2016 11:01

For that to happen you would need all the panels made up and finding an Alfa owner happy to have panels made up for molds. Such a challenge . Who would do such a thing

WorldClassAccident 24th January 2016 11:11

These guys can scan one for you and produce the buck for mould, at a price. http://3dengineers.co.uk/

I am half tempted to get a decent quality model car scanned and scaled up. You could then adjust the computer model to fit the hard points on the donor car and get the 'adjusted' model made into the molds.

zagmad 24th January 2016 11:12

The rear window seemed to sit closely to the mg shape set in the swb. Finding returns for it to sit are where I'm looking at next .

y cymro 24th January 2016 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagmad (Post 74481)
For that to happen you would need all the panels made up and finding an Alfa owner happy to have panels made up for molds. Such a challenge . Who would do such a thing

I know of a full set of glassfibre panels, but think they're 2k. Will check and get back to you.

y cymro 24th January 2016 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagmad (Post 74483)
The rear window seemed to sit closely to the mg shape set in the swb. Finding returns for it to sit are where I'm looking at next .

Do you mean the 105 series rear screen - often known as the Bertone shape?

zagmad 24th January 2016 12:13

Said gt/jnr on the description for the ploy rear screen. I sent that one back and will have to save up for the heated glass version. The heated rear glass version is 280 the poly version was 160. So quite a difference. Its creating the returns or where the glass sits. " classic Alfa" parts are available

y cymro 24th January 2016 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 74482)
These guys can scan one for you and produce the buck for mould, at a price. http://3dengineers.co.uk/

I am half tempted to get a decent quality model car scanned and scaled up. You could then adjust the computer model to fit the hard points on the donor car and get the 'adjusted' model made into the molds.

Don't forget that the proportions of model cars are altered to look good when scaled-down. Making a full-size 3D model would look like a big toy car rather than the genuine article. That said, I'd love a full-sized Hot Wheels GTO (Pontiac not Ferrari)

y cymro 24th January 2016 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagmad (Post 74486)
Said gt/jnr on the description for the ploy rear screen

Yup, that's the 105 Bertone. Was it from Plastics4Performance by any chance - about 200 incl vat and carriage, or did you find someone cheaper? Or from Classic Alfa? Don't forget to add on vat when saving for them

WorldClassAccident 24th January 2016 12:33

Don't forget that the proportions of model cars are altered

And I will be altering them again to make a Porsche 906 fit onto a Boxster or similar.

My thinking was that it would be a quick way to get a baseline model to start adjusting. Also, some of the larger scale models are not adjusted for scale and painfully accurate in details

zagmad 24th January 2016 12:58

If I could use the rear glass on the 105 series i would. Trying to think of ways to get the recess for it to sit . Was thinking maybe using clay and sinking it in then maybe a mold taken of that with fibreglass. The rubber seals are available. :-(

zagmad 24th January 2016 19:47

Talking of 3d printing etc. If the surface was scanned and replicated in reverse this could give the recess ready for a mold . Then the rear screen could fit.

y cymro 24th January 2016 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 74489)
And I will be altering them again to make a Porsche 906 fit onto a Boxster or similar.

This sounds exciting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 74489)
Also, some of the larger scale models are not adjusted for scale and painfully accurate in details

You may be right. Those CMC models are nice but they ain't cheap.

zagmad 25th January 2016 16:26

The rear surround would be good but a possible diagram of mentioned part be nice. If it gave the screen a place to go. Hopefully the lip doesn't mean the bit that the glass sits in. If you could contact Chris he could send you a pic of the panel I have which is part of the bottom of the screen.if the panel has the full shape for it to sit in that would be great.

y cymro 25th January 2016 19:57

More or less the area shown in yellow. It includes the C pillar up to (but not including the gutter), the top edge of the roof, and piece below the window and above the boot. Importantly, it will have the form to accept the window and rubber.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...8b4dc667d4.jpg

I've pm'd you the price.

zagmad 25th January 2016 20:27

Id be happy to pay half the price if it means gaining access to to the use of it for my build. If

zagmad 25th January 2016 20:37

Don't how you would like to go about that. What is your location? Sorry if its mentioned in another build. I could leave the funds with Chris if your visiting their again.


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