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y cymro 26th March 2015 00:16

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Originally Posted by landmannnn (Post 64904)
In the UK you can run lower rated tyres provided you don't go over the speed rating.

I doubt that's true, and you'll probably find your insurance company will do their best to wheedle out of making full payment in event of a claim.

WorldClassAccident 26th March 2015 06:39

Hmm. I need a new pair of fronts, the tyre bill may just have gone up.

Mister Towed 26th March 2015 06:56

I'll check today and get back to you this evening. I was going on advice from a classic tyre supplier and hadn't looked it up in the legislation...

Just a thought: can you get a V rated space-saver spare?

WorldClassAccident 26th March 2015 07:06

Just googled and my tyres are okay. Dunlop Sportmaxx Z rated

Z rated only actually means in excess of 149mph but tyre manufacturers have added

W if it is rated up to 168mph
y if it is up to 186mph
(y) if tested in excess of 186
And they leave is as just Z if it above that apparently

The Dunlops are what came fitted by Kleemann when it left their factory so I should be okay.

y cymro 26th March 2015 08:25

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 64923)
I'll check today and get back to you this evening. I was going on advice from a classic tyre supplier and hadn't looked it up in the legislation...

That will be helpful :smile:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 64923)
Just a thought: can you get a V rated space-saver spare?

Doubt it, I think mine has 'use up to 55mph' or similar moulded on the sidewall.

Mister Towed 26th March 2015 18:51

Direct from the horse's mouth today (a contact who's a collision investigator) -

You can be prosecuted (and under some circumstances imprisoned) for fitting tyres with a speed rating below the design speed of the vehicle.

To clarify that, the construction and use regulations are ambiguous, stating that the tyres must be suitable for the purpose to which the vehicle is being put.

The Motor Vehicles (approval) Regulations quoted by IanA above (and which I'd never heard of, so well done for finding them!) however, state that the tyres must be speed rated not below the maximum design speed of the vehicle.

Where the Courts are concerned, if two pieces of legislation seem to contradict each other, it's the one that hangs you that stands.

According to my contact, if you fit lower speed rating tyres to your car than it should have, the chances are nobody will ever notice (I don't believe it's even checked on the MOT).

But, if you are involved in a serious injury or fatal road traffic collision, your vehicle will be checked over in fine detail by a trained collision investigator, which includes checking the speed rating of the tyres fitted to the car against its design speed. If they are found to be incorrect, it is highly likely that you will be prosecuted for dangerous driving or causing death by dangerous driving, and such cases have been successfully prosecuted in the UK.

So, I would strongly recommend that you fit the correct (or higher) speed rated tyres to your car (I certainly will be) as the 'wisdom' on the net that you don't have to is wrong.

Where the Z3 donors are concerned, this means H rated tyres on 1.8, 1.9 and 2.0 models, V rated on the 2.2, 2.8 and 3.0, and W, Y or Z rated tyres on the 3.2M models.

redratbike 26th March 2015 19:11

Just a thought...going by the thread title is Geoff actually getting a car????????

casamolino 26th March 2015 20:18

That`s the plan , Geoff .

Mister Towed 26th March 2015 20:23

Oops. :(

y cymro 26th March 2015 21:02

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 64943)
So, I would strongly recommend that you fit the correct (or higher) speed rated tyres to your car (I certainly will be) as the 'wisdom' on the net that you don't have to is wrong.

Where the Z3 donors are concerned, this means H rated tyres on 1.8, 1.9 and 2.0 models, V rated on the 2.2, 2.8 and 3.0, and W, Y or Z rated tyres on the 3.2M models.

Good advice T

redratbike 26th March 2015 22:11

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Originally Posted by casamolino (Post 64948)
That`s the plan , Geoff .

We've all jumped on the thread and no sign of your car bet you can't wait

casamolino 27th March 2015 03:44

It has been a fair while but it will be worth it , thanks Geoff .

hurnleft 27th March 2015 08:40

Geoff, I saw yours when I went to collect mine yesterday.
When it's built the fiddly bits will all have been worked out already so it should be a smooth build.

Mine was the first customer car that Chris had finished, and as you'd expect there were one or two small issues which will soon be sorted for future builds.

Having driven mine the 250 miles home yesterday, I'm in no doubt that it will be worth the wait.

Cheers, Bob.

redratbike 27th March 2015 12:46

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Originally Posted by redratbike (Post 64876)
why stay true to the original...nice bit of photoshop
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...so-d8ja3jr.jpg

heres how it does looks in real life

http://www.supercars.net/carpics/423...FACHotRod3.jpg

smash 27th March 2015 19:47

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Originally Posted by redratbike (Post 64976)
heres how it does looks in real life

I think the whole restomod thing is definitely the right way to go. Maybe Halibrand style wheels rather than wires and maybe they're a tad too big lol!

But I gotta say....I think it looks bloody awesome in black :)

redratbike 27th March 2015 22:47

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Originally Posted by smash (Post 64989)
I think the whole restomod thing is definitely the right way to go. Maybe Halibrand style wheels rather than wires and maybe they're a tad too big lol!

But I gotta say....I think it looks bloody awesome in black :)

here you go

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...1&d=1427485649

Tribute Automotive 29th March 2015 21:34

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Originally Posted by redratbike (Post 64995)

I like that!

And suitably sized wheels are available:

http://www.seven82motors.com.au/for-...-wheels-range/

Tribute Automotive 29th March 2015 21:48

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Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 60200)

My original choice of Classic Mini door handles has proved problematic when connecting the Mini lock/key mechanism to the Z3 door latch unit. Changing the linear movement of 15mm in the mini lock (at 45 degrees when mounted of the SWB door skin) to the 40mm vertical movement required at the Z3 internal latch using cantilevers working in a reversed ratio (small movement to large) has given an unreliable solution. So, a new solution has hopefully been found with these handles and there attached mechanisms:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4003682559...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

They are readily available at reasonable cost, look period and that fact that they are Italian is a bonus!

I will update once I have test fitted one.

casamolino 29th March 2015 21:59

Good evening , any body want to buy a set of classic MINI door handles? :icon_smile: never raced or rallied! Geoff .

Tribute Automotive 29th March 2015 22:11

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Originally Posted by casamolino (Post 65074)
Good evening , any body want to buy a set of classic MINI door handles? :icon_smile: never raced or rallied! Geoff .

I was going to fit the Alfa handles to your car Geoff, so happy to take the Mini ones you provided in Part exchange :yo:. The Mini boot handle works just fine.

GTO Engineering can sell you a pair of repro ones:

http://www.gtoengineering.com/produc...s-swb-et00122n

I hate to think what they cost!

A60 Austin handles are nice but don't think the mechanisms will work, as the Mini ones:

http://www.bmcfarina.com/contents/en...Rear_Door.html


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