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MartinClan 4th September 2009 07:55

What did you guys mount your motor on. I can see it is on a plate but what is the plate bolted to? Is it the 25mm box section tube that is set at 45Deg and runs the width of the car behind the dash?

Robin

Ordered my last wheel box so now I have three. It's amazing how prices vary. On Ebay the cheapest I could find (including the rubber spacers) was over £18. I then found a mini specialist selling the same thing for only £12. He also stocked the little chrome plinths so I ordered 4 of those as well (can only get them in 2's) They were also much cheaper as £5 a pair.

Patrick 4th September 2009 08:00

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Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 16666)
What did you guys mount your motor on. I can see it is on a plate but what is the plate bolted to? Is it the 25mm box section tube that is set at 45Deg and runs the width of the car behind the dash?

Robin

Ordered my last wheel box so now I have three. It's amazing how prices vary. On Ebay the cheapest I could find (including the rubber spacers) was over £18. I then found a mini specialist selling the same thing for only £12. He also stocked the little chrome plinths so I ordered 4 of those as well (can only get them in 2's) They were also much cheaper as £5 a pair.

Yup its on the box section in our car:

http://www.msportster.co.uk/data/p_finalass052.jpg

peterux 4th September 2009 21:39

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/...b58e90a03d.jpg

I fixed a thick aluminium plate to the chassis(box section). I had to move my fuse box down as I previously mounted it here. There is a special rubber mount that sits under the motor. I fixed the wheel boxes first with the drive shaft and then drilled the holes to mount the motor.

MartinClan 6th September 2009 19:58

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Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 16657)
Still on the camera!

Robin

Off topic I know, but here is the car in question. Apparently it was built specifically for the Mille Miglia. Features a conventional chassis but a body built from small gauge steel tube skinned with ally.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/martincla.../kneb09_01.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/martincla.../kneb09_02.jpg

peterux 6th September 2009 21:15

Very nice, especially the 'go faster' rear wheel covers!

Is it registered for use on the UK roads? Or are those funny number plates just for the show?

...peter

MartinClan 7th September 2009 07:38

The story was that it had been given to him by an Italian friend. Strange though because as you can see from the picture it is right hand drive.

MartinClan 14th September 2009 07:43

Well the windscreen wipers are fitted and seem to work well. All I need now is some rain lol.

When testing I found that the natural course for any cleared rain is down the windscreen support and into the cockpit! The gasket I made seemed to do little to prevent this. What hace you guys done? Is it a question of gumming up the hole with silicon sealant?

Also where is a good place for the windscreen washer bottle? I have a space on the offside engine bay but I don't fancy dangling the bottle (which could be quite heavy when full) off the fragile alluminium sides.

Robin

Patrick 14th September 2009 10:49

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Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 16735)
Well the windscreen wipers are fitted and seem to work well. All I need now is some rain lol.

When testing I found that the natural course for any cleared rain is down the windscreen support and into the cockpit! The gasket I made seemed to do little to prevent this. What hace you guys done? Is it a question of gumming up the hole with silicon sealant?

Also where is a good place for the windscreen washer bottle? I have a space on the offside engine bay but I don't fancy dangling the bottle (which could be quite heavy when full) off the fragile alluminium sides.

Robin

Won't have long to wait for some rain :lol:

I mounted the bottle on the firewall under the header tank. Bit of a pain to get to but it's not like I'm planning on need to fill it very often.

peterux 14th September 2009 20:28

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Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 16735)
When testing I found that the natural course for any cleared rain is down the windscreen support and into the cockpit! The gasket I made seemed to do little to prevent this. What hace you guys done? Is it a question of gumming up the hole with silicon sealant?

Robin

When its lashing down with rain that's the least of your worries - ask Patrick and Rich :lol:

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Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 16735)
Also where is a good place for the windscreen washer bottle? I have a space on the offside engine bay but I don't fancy dangling the bottle (which could be quite heavy when full) off the fragile alluminium sides.

Robin

Mine is on the nearside mounted on a vertical piece of ali fixed to the chassis and supported horizontally to the side bonnet to stop it vibrating. (Easier to make than describe). The picture is before the side bonnet and horizontal bracket was fitted.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/...bddd4555ec.jpg

Rain is forecast so you'll be able to try out the wipers soon. Don't forget to put drain holes in your doors unless your into fish keeping :doh:

GreatOldOne 3rd May 2010 17:28

Hi all - fresh back from Stoneliegh, with lots of wiper bits! :)

I got a lucas wiper kit + extra wheel box, but no bundy tube was supplied with it. Does anyone know where I can get some? Also, can someone also post up what size wiper arms and blades are required?

MartinClan 3rd May 2010 20:05

SVC have all the bits including the bundy tube and gear wheel for the wiper motor which you may have to change to get the correct sweep. I used B05109 wiper blades and U71300 wiper arms from TEX. Had to bend and shorten the arms to fit.

Robin

PS - Did you get the hail?

peterux 3rd May 2010 20:20

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Originally Posted by GreatOldOne (Post 18921)
Hi all - fresh back from Stoneliegh, with lots of wiper bits! :)

I got a lucas wiper kit + extra wheel box, but no bundy tube was supplied with it. Does anyone know where I can get some? Also, can someone also post up what size wiper arms and blades are required?

Hi Jason,
yes we're back safely as well.
I got my wiper bundy tube from SVC. The guy there was very helful getting the right drive wheel plus supplied, cut and flarred the bundy tube to order.
The wiper arms and blades I used are TEX and I got mine from Europaspares.
ITEM : 5.2mm RHP - U71300 X 3
You have to put a bit more crank angle on the arms to make them come to rest horizontal. (see further back up this post for details and a picture)
My order says 10 inch blades but I think I had to change them as the ones on the car are 9 inch. The 9 inch ones are the correct size.(9inch - B05109)

Have you been told to order the hood yet? (:wink:)

...peter

GreatOldOne 3rd May 2010 20:44

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Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 18922)
PS - Did you get the hail?

Oh Yes.

Thanks for the part numbers.

GreatOldOne 6th May 2010 13:44

Have put in an order with Europa for the arms and wipers. One final question - how do I go about locating the wheel boxes on the scuttle?

I'm assuming that I need to shorten the arms, fit the blades and then work out the right hand most box's position (as looking from the front of the car)by placing it on the windscreen and noting where the arm sits on the scuttle, and then work across the screen with the other arms ensuring they don't interfere with one another.

Or is that all ass backwards? :)

MartinClan 6th May 2010 14:34

Your procedure is pretty much what I did but it would have been considerably easier if I could have seen what someone else did first.

But - you could be in luck.... I haven't put the scuttle top back on yet. I can send you a birds eye picture of the ww instalation complete with rule if that would be useful.

Robin

GreatOldOne 6th May 2010 14:52

That'd be great - thanks Robin! :)

peterux 6th May 2010 20:05

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Originally Posted by GreatOldOne (Post 18957)
I'm assuming that I need to shorten the arms, fit the blades and then work out the right hand most box's position (as looking from the front of the car)by placing it on the windscreen and noting where the arm sits on the scuttle, and then work across the screen with the other arms ensuring they don't interfere with one another.

Or is that all ass backwards? :)

I think I started from the drivers side. I first found the position that gives the full sweep from vertical to horizontal. Then with that blade in place you can find the position of the other two arms and blades. I found taking the spring off one of the arms helps. But i'm sure you can go the other way and end up in the same place.

The usual rule of 'measure twice, cut once' becomes 'measure 6 times and cut once'!! :lol:

MartinClan 8th May 2010 10:36

Sorry marks on ruler aren't very visible...

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/martinclan/images/ww1.jpg

GreatOldOne 8th May 2010 11:44

Thanks Robin - gives me an idea of the rough locations.

That carpet looks a bit posh! :)

BTW - what's that black box sticking up from the passenger side bulkhead, in front of the expansion tank? Alarm?

MartinClan 8th May 2010 17:56

Its the business end of a Toad alarm/imobiliser. Carpet is same as the stuff used in classic Jags - but is a real pain to use. Wouldn't use it again...

Robin


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