DVLA Question
Hi,
I have posted this question on the Sammio forum as well to try and reach more people. I have read the info regarding 're-body' regulations on this forum, which is very helpful. I know about the 8 point rule and the procedure the DVLA requires to retain your reg plates and historic vehicle status. I have bought a donor and will hopefully start a build soon. My donor was not a complete car though, but only the rolling chassis with engine and without the bulkhead and the plates, so the car was already stripped of the body when I bought it. I have the original chassis/body VIN plate and all the paperwork is correct and present. I also have proof of purchase from the garage I bought the rolling chassis from, ebay screenshots and the receipt. However, I do not have a photo of the complete vehicle showing reg plates before it was stripped, which seems to be something that the DVLA insists on. I have also contacted the Previous Registered Keeper and asked if he had any photos but had no luck (he only bought the car to restore his much older car, used the body panels and sold me the rolling chassis, so he owned it only for a couple of weeks). My question is, am I going to have trouble registering the kit car and keeping the original plates/historic status if I can't provide the photo of the complete vehicle? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you. Cheers, Deni |
pm'd you Deni ...
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Did you get anywhere Deni ?
I am trying to sort out a S*mmio rebody for an old customer and we did all the requirements as they were laid out previously ...we have had a letter back saying they will alter the V5c when we MOT the vehicle ..so now its on hold until the vehicle is put through it's test ....not a problem , but just draws the process out for him a bit longer than previously ..... |
Dvla
Hi Lancelot!
First of all, sorry for such a late reply - I was away for a while. Thank you for your message. Does this mean that we do not have to provide so much evidence as before because by now DVLA knows enough about this type of build? Cheers, Deni P.S, I will post the reply to your message on S*mmio ;-) too. |
What chassis modifications are permitted
Hi-jacking this thread a bit but seemed like a good place to pose this question.
I am thinking about another build. The kit I have in mind is based on a Spitfire / GT6 chassis but with quite a few mods. Lengthened. Outriggers removed and new Outriggers and floor pan welded in. Chassis forward of front anti roll bar removed. The manufacturer says that all the builds so far have not needed an IVA. And I suppose that the basic structure of the chassis is unaltered. But I have my doubts if this falls within the rules or that they have just been getting away with it. What does the forum think? Cheers Robin |
I think if you alter the chassis and do not fit back as original then you would need an IVA test but you might be able to get an age related plate but it might have to go on a Q plate.
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That is far more than a rebody including; modified, lengthened, cut out and removed etc etc.
You can add parts to a standard chassis but not remove anything, unless it un bolts, that is my understanding. |
The minute you change the wheelbase measurement its game over ...add to that new outriggers and floors welded in and its def a no go on the re-body scheme ....The suppliers of that kit have either been very lucky so far as few get inspected nowadays or they are being selective with the facts ...If they are a seasoned builder , they will know they are falling foul of the current regulations ...
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I’m racking my brain to think what kit it is?
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As for the modifications, as LL says above, if you change the wheelbase by shortening or lengthening the chassis then it definitely needs an IVA, which at best leaves you with a number plate that's age-related to the youngest component used in the car (see link below), or more likely, the dreaded 'Q' plate. https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registrat...assic-vehicles The outriggers and cutting away the chassis ahead of the front arb are a different matter. The rules allow for things like brackets and sub-frames to be added to the chassis - to be doubly sure of complying I'd make them bolt-on rather than welded on, while I believe that alterations to the chassis are only an issue within the wheelbase, not fore and aft of the axles. Just make sure you don't weaken the chassis when you cut away anything that runs across it. from either end. |
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i still have an original brochure somewhere |
No mention of kit prices or availability, but their website is still up -
https://www.corsaspyder.com/ |
Still in bromley
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They are a good looking car ...
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If its only a mild stretch , maybe a slight shortening of the body itself might be better. ..I accept it'll change the aesthetics slightly , but if shortened in the right areas , it might be a better way to build the car ?
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Robin - Sorry for arriving a bit late to this debate.
But there is some more detail on how the DVLA consider chassis mods in this post: http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...45&postcount=2 However, I think it is pretty clear that this work should lead to IVA. Cheers, Paul. :) |
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On the theme of a re-body. What exactly does the V5 show after a re-body?
Does it loose the original vehicle's identity completely? Or is there still reference to the fact that it once was a Spartan, Triumph or whatever? Cheers, Robin |
There is no mention of the original donor car on the V5C, but I am sure it is held on record ‘somewhere’.
I was allowed to change the Make, but the Type had to be left blank. This meant that I went from: Make – Triumph Type – Spitfire To this. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...o/DSCF4208.JPG Based on some Tributes you don’t need to keep the original make. ( I wanted to keep Triumph, but others have dropped BMW. ) The only other thing you get on your V5C is these ‘Special Notes’: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...o/DSCF4213.JPG Cheers, Paul. :) |
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In my time I have had 3 rebodied cars, each one of them had make and model details changed according to a different approach. As far as I can gather at the moment they seem to be retaining the make as the manufacturer of the donor car such as Triumph, BMW etc and changing the model to reflect the rebody. God only knows what they will do if you submit a rebody on a kit car such as a Spartan, although Lucky@Lemans on this forum appears to have had his rebodied All Aluminium 1957 250 Testarossa, which was built on a correctly registered Locost 7 chassis, given the make of the body manufacturer and the model of the 250 TR it replicated. |
It seems to depend on who is doing the paper work at the DVLA end. Some people get exactly what they want first time, others have a bit of battle.
I think if you send the info to them correctly with photos before and after, a covering letter etc etc its usually ok. No problems rebodying a correctly registered kit car. |
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