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Mister Towed 30th October 2014 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastic Porsche (Post 60916)
Your right, the MWS 6 x 15 wires do stick out a bit, the ET is actually -16 so they stick out alot

Very nice looking wheels but it does look like they might push out too far for the SWB arches though.

Mister Towed 31st October 2014 10:17

Just run a few calculations through the 'will they fit?' software.

The MWS wheels at ET -16 and splined adaptors which effectively increase the wheel 'poke' by another 31.75mm (1.25"), give an equivalent of ET - 47.5mm.

Looking at the BMW Z3 as a potential donor, compared to the factory fit 7x16 ET38 alloys, the wires will 'poke' 73mm further out, widening the track by 5 & 3/4".

Even looking at some of the huge optional alloys that Z3's tend to wear - the biggest I found that I think are meant to fit on the front were 9x18 ET 40's - they'll still 'poke' out another 50mm, widening the track by 4".

There's probably two inches clearance to play with at the back, especially if a 'narrow body' donor is used, but I think it might be a struggle to get them to fit on the front without fouling the arches of the SWB shell. Shame. :(

Plastic Porsche 31st October 2014 18:55

MWS Cobra wheels
 
Sorry should have explained, ET of -16 includes the splined adaptors, so based on the Mx5 with a std wheel of et 45 they stick out 60mm plus half the difference between the rims (5.5 vs 6.0") so 67 mm in all. :smash:

Mister Towed 31st October 2014 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastic Porsche (Post 60939)
Sorry should have explained, ET of -16 includes the splined adaptors, so based on the Mx5 with a std wheel of et 45 they stick out 60mm plus half the difference between the rims (5.5 vs 6.0") so 67 mm in all. :smash:

Ah, that makes more sense and reduces the extra 'poke' to between 18 and 41mm compared to 'standard' wheels. That should be a lot more manageable. :)

Tribute Automotive 19th November 2014 21:56

Some Progress
 
Sanding, filling, more sanding, more filling, and a splash of paint to see how its going. Then more sanding, more filling, even more sanding.......

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps11928345.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...pse961bbc7.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8eedbd7c.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psb408dfd3.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps36e98362.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...pscab6f3c4.jpg

Car photographer 20th November 2014 00:05

Wow!!

Car photographer 20th November 2014 00:05

A bit of colour works wonders!!

Egdik 20th November 2014 00:58

Good to see the finishing underway. What of the door window frames ?

hurnleft 20th November 2014 08:40

Frames are looking good in the last picture. Is this the finalised version?
I'm looking forward to coming down to see the end project.

Mister Towed 20th November 2014 08:59

Oh, that's starting to come together nicely now. Can't wait for the next update. :)

BazMason 20th November 2014 09:07

That looks great!

garyh 20th November 2014 10:05

Wow, again.

ufo17 20th November 2014 19:59

Can someone tell me if this is just a one off for Geoff or will it eventually be a kit?.

casamolino 20th November 2014 20:13

Good evening , kits will be available , suggest you give Chris a call for more info , Geoff ,

Paul L 20th November 2014 21:11

Chris & Dan - I think this is shaping up to be your best kit yet. :cool:

Keep up the good work, Paul. :)

PS
hurnleft - Welcome to this forum.
Sorry I meant to ask your steering wheel / air bag question over here and then completely forgot. :rolleyes:

hurnleft 21st November 2014 09:02

Paul L,
Hi again, as is often the case with a question such as 'can I legally remove the air bags (and some other modern stuff) to fit a wood rim steering wheel and make the cab of a Z3 look older, there are many variations of reply and the water ends up very muddied. I'll speak privately to Kevin Rooney when I'm nearer to getting started to get his answer.


A friend of mine had a customer's Bertini in yesterday so I went to look at the concept of a Z3 rebody, although I'm not interested in that actual model. I like the idea and am off to look at a 2.8 Z3 today. If that's ok, I'll be ready for when the 250 kit is ready.

Cheers, Bob.

WorldClassAccident 21st November 2014 12:19

'can I legally remove the air bags (and some other modern stuff) to fit a wood rim steering wheel and make the cab of a Z3 look older

I hope so

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z...923_132112.jpg

And here is how I did it
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...ead.php?t=4917

The airbag sensor is located just in front of the gear stick and when you remove that the warning light on the dashboard goes out. On mine there was no passenger airbag fitted .

hurnleft 21st November 2014 22:19

WCA Very nice interior.
I've just put a deposit on a Z3 2.8 manual so I'm getting prepared.
Cheers, Bob.

Tribute Automotive 24th November 2014 21:24

Working my way around the car prepping for the moulding process, I have always thought the "shoulder' of the rear wing could be improved upon. So before it was too late, out came the grinder.

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...pse1e69c11.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps54ce00cb.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps007003be.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66671d5b.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps852eb613.jpg

jones 25th November 2014 00:13

That looks do much better, great idea Chris

casamolino 25th November 2014 09:51

Chris nice attention to detail , Geoff .

Tribute Automotive 25th November 2014 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by casamolino (Post 61575)
Chris nice attention to detail , Geoff .

Thanks Geoff. Her's some more detail:

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps980e9d65.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6fea63f9.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psb1f5fa02.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psb4242b96.jpg

y cymro 29th November 2014 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 61602)

The devil is in the detail :smokin:
It's coming on nicely. Good job

Tribute Automotive 30th November 2014 20:32

Thanks Steve. Matching up the other side:

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps600629e6.jpg

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8fae3891.jpg

hurnleft 30th November 2014 20:48

Looking really good. I'll speak to you during the week about coming down.

Cheers, Bob.

y cymro 30th November 2014 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 61685)
Thanks Steve. Matching up the other side:

Excellent.
Talking about matching the other side reminded me of the famous story about Sergio Pininfarina’s response to the Triumph TR7 when he saw it unveiled at the Detroit auto show. Walking from one side of the car to the other, he said of the swooping swage line along its flank, "Oh no, they did it on this side, too"

Gran-Sport 5th January 2015 13:57

Any further development on this chaps?









T.I.A.

casamolino 8th January 2015 08:57

Mould production this month , with my build to start at the end of the month , Geoff .

Danny_HUFC 8th January 2015 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by casamolino (Post 62515)
Mould production this month , with my build to start at the end of the month , Geoff .

Looking forward to it Geoff

hurnleft 8th January 2015 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by casamolino (Post 62515)
Mould production this month , with my build to start at the end of the month , Geoff .

Mine won't be far behind, starting to collect the required lights, handles etc to take down with me.

Really looking forward to it. I'd like to make Stoneleigh with it if work allows (I know I'm working on the Sunday.

Bob.

Paul L 8th January 2015 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_HUFC (Post 62517)
Looking forward to it Geoff

+1

Jaguartvr 8th January 2015 17:06

Don't know if this may be of interest but came accros it and thought it may help posting it.

http://www.simpsondesign.net/blog250SWBprogress4.html

Kit 275GTB 8th January 2015 17:52

Thanks for that heads up on Simpson Design. Did you see the prices they are asking? The USA is clearly a different market!
They are using a Miata (known as MX5 in Europe) which requires them to make some compromises. I thought all their types looked a bit "chunky" as a result and I was particularly interested in seeing their Italia 2 GTO which looks a bit like my 275/Z3 project based on a Z3 (see my thread at http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...ead.php?t=5207 ) I am still finalizing the design so I will take note of their efforts and try to benefit.

y cymro 8th January 2015 20:55

Good find Jaguartvr.

Here's some more
http://www.simpsondesign.net/blog250SWBprogress3.html

I think it looks good.

Blooming heck - he started by making it in steel
http://www.simpsondesign.net/blog250SWBchangemind.html
Kudos

Tribute Automotive 10th January 2015 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gran-Sport (Post 62456)
Any further development on this chaps? .

As Geoff said moulding will start this month, with 1st panels out and on Geoff's Z3 by end Jan/beginning of Feb. We are running behind due to shear volume of kits, part builds and development work. Mustn't grumble, business is good, if a little tiring sometimes :sleep:

Tribute Automotive 10th January 2015 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 62534)
Don't know if this may be of interest but came accros it and thought it may help posting it.

http://www.simpsondesign.net/blog250SWBprogress4.html

I have always admired Jim Simpson's work. And his prices.

Mister Towed 11th January 2015 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 62594)
As Geoff said moulding will start this month, with 1st panels out and on Geoff's Z3 by end Jan/beginning of Feb. We are running behind due to shear volume of kits, part builds and development work. Mustn't grumble, business is good, if a little tiring sometimes :sleep:

Glad to hear that business is booming, can't wait to see the 'production' SWB kit as I might be in a position to place an order later this year. :)

y cymro 11th January 2015 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 62594)
business is good, if a little tiring sometimes :sleep:

It's great news that the SWB is almost ready, and I'm sure I share the feelings of all on this forum to be chuffed for you that business is so good. You've got a good range of products and an innovative approach to producing kit cars during a time of increasing government intervention.
I can't wait to get mine on the road :smile:

y cymro 11th January 2015 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 62595)
I have always admired Jim Simpson's work. And his prices.

I've just looked up his prices and they're an eye opener. It must be difficult selling a kit car in a country where for the same price you could buy a new Mustang, Camaro or Challenger.

Jaguartvr 11th January 2015 20:22

I have one of the Italia kits in the back garden waiting to be fitted. I believe it is one of the Retroforza kits.
The finish is amazing, the front end just bolts on an would be ready to paint with virtually no prep. Probably one reason they are so expensive.


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