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casamolino 8th December 2017 18:47

Good evening all , my car lives outside but is usually covered with a "Triple lined car cover" this works fine until it is really windy as in the last couple of days!



https://i.imgur.com/1D1H5jOh.jpg

so the first snow of the winter has fallen , i wonder if Jeff used an anti-snow protection coat when he had finished spraying my car . In my opinion the paintwork looks just as good as when i picked the car up , so thanks Jeff , Geoff .

Paul L 8th December 2017 19:07

Great photos. :cool:

I also did an impersonation of 'Mary Poppins' earlier today as I tried to get the car cover back on mine. :rolleyes:

Cheers, Paul. :)

Jaguartvr 12th December 2017 09:19

Hi Geoff,

was looking for some information on Jaguar dashboards for another project and came across a picture of a series 1 xj6 dash.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...r_Spy_(16).jpg

if you look at the centre oval where the small instruments sit, looks like a dead ringer for the 250 dash insert.
Just a thought.

casamolino 12th December 2017 18:16

Evening Jag thanks for that , this is what my dash looks like.

https://i.imgur.com/r3hyECgl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JJ6f9yol.jpg

The top row of switches are from left to right,a standard Z3 air con switch modified to look "old fashioned" then two switches for front and rear fogs (only rear in use) then a switch for the Hazards.
The next row down are the three Z3 Heater controls again modified. The hole above the line of four switches allows me to see the Z3 mileometer (this is where i positioned the Z3 instrument cluster PCB) this came in useful at MOT time!
The two things left to do are to make a panel to replace the Z3 Glove Box which no longer fits and to find some 8mm sticky vinyl letters to stick on the heads of the various switches
F for Fog L for Lights etc , Geoff .

Jaguartvr 12th December 2017 19:19

Looking good.
Shame the original glove box doesn't fit anymore, would have made it easier.
Is the mileometer visible? I presume it will need to be for MOT's.

JoeB 13th December 2017 13:48

Hi Geoff

How come the glove box no longer fits with the new dashboard? Does it just not line up or something? I will hopefully be fitting my new dash in the next few weeks so just after a bit of info.

casamolino 13th December 2017 14:41

Good afternoon , ref the glovebox , it would fit in relation to the dash , but because of the curved edge on the right hand side of the glovebox i could not work out a way of combining it with a new centre console , i definitely did not want to retain the standard Z3 centre console as that would have been the last thing in my car which would give a clue to its origin . When i had my MOT done (last month) the tester did ask the mileage reading as he could not see it , i pointed it out to him and he took the reading , i dont know what would have been the result if he could not see a reading (fail? or advisory?) Geoff .

casamolino 5th March 2018 13:29

Good afternoon last week i spent a couple of days down in MK , i had not been for a decent drive in the SWB for a couple of months so i used that , first the bad points ,
1 The blast of air that came into the interior that was so refreshing when in Italy 2 years ago was bloody cold when its just come from Siberia!
2 Metal gear knobs can get very cold when the outside temp is freezing .
good points
1 I drove back on Friday (just gone) when there was a couple of inches of snow on the ground and my narrow tyres worked really well as everybody else was sliding around on their wide tyres .
2 The heater works really well .

https://i.imgur.com/w2RTmZzh.jpg

Just need to wash it know , Geoff .

Mitchelkitman 5th March 2018 16:20

Can I ask (I looked, but couldn't find!) what size wheels/tyres and offset? Any issues on full lock? If good, these would be the way I'd want to go If I progress with one of these kits.

molleur 5th March 2018 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchelkitman (Post 93669)
Can I ask (I looked, but couldn't find!) what size wheels/tyres and offset? Any issues on full lock? If good, these would be the way I'd want to go If I progress with one of these kits.

Ditto!

casamolino 5th March 2018 18:28

Will check and post up first thing tomorrow , Geoff .

casamolino 6th March 2018 10:22

Good morning , my wheels are BMW 5 series 6.5 x 15 ET20 steels with Avon ZV7 tyres 195/65/15 , i bought the wheels from Mister Towed and it was he that drilled all the small holes (god knows how much time and drill bits) , i have had them blasted and coated , no issues on full lock , thanks Geoff .

Mitchelkitman 6th March 2018 12:15

That's useful - thanks. I believe Mr Towed bought them new off Ebay, but I've searched, (even tried Oponeo.com) but seem to only be able to find 47 offset, or wider rims. The World is in turmoil :hurt:

Jaguartvr 6th March 2018 12:41

Have a look on eBay.DE
I found some steel style but in alloy, £80 for a set plus reasonable shipping but it was last year.
Worth a look

molleur 6th March 2018 12:49

Would love to get the BMW numbers for the steel style alloy's,
been looking here but no luck yet.

DaveP 6th March 2018 13:16

I recently bought some 5 series (for an F10/F11 model) from eBay that were 16 inch but a decent offset of 33.

They won’t be to everyone’s taste as the design shows the holes in the steels are oval shaped. I was after a custom slot-mag sort of style rather than Dunlop’s.

If you have a Faceballs account here is my post

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...8012865&type=3

They were 6.5J 16 ET33 and I bought them from Poland. Cost £115 for four including postage.

I have since had them banded by a chap in Essex by 1inch front and 2 inch back.

So now I have (if my maths is right) of course as the banding is attached to the ou side of the wheel the width changes but the backspace doesn’t, hence I have

7.5J 16 ET 21 fronts
8.5J 16 ET 8 rears

I plan putting on 225/50 16 fronts and 245/45 16 rears this week and then mine are going on a Kobra soon. Will share pics when I have them.

Dave

Mitchelkitman 6th March 2018 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 93679)
Have a look on eBay.DE
I found some steel style but in alloy, £80 for a set plus reasonable shipping but it was last year.
Worth a look

I'd be after (real) steel wheels (new ones).

Jaguartvr 6th March 2018 19:21

Meths is very good and won't damage plastic.

WorldClassAccident 7th March 2018 12:32

Meths is very good

Does this relate to an earlier posting or have you fallen off the wagon again?

:-)

molleur 7th March 2018 13:02

It is merely a pigment of his lamination!

Jaguartvr 7th March 2018 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 93695)
Meths is very good

Does this relate to an earlier posting or have you fallen off the wagon again?

:-)


Should have been posted on Nostromo's post about masking tape.
Nice with ice and a slice :spit:

casamolino 26th April 2018 11:19

The following Ebay purchase is certainly not the most interesting item i have bought! but they do the job , https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-x-allo...72.m2749.l2649 ,

https://i.imgur.com/UvSw8rsh.jpg

I have also changed the centre console to a MK2 version the MK1 hid the 3 BMW heater controls but i could not get them to operate efficiently i did want to hide them as they are the last item in the interior that gives a clue to the BMW heritage .

https://i.imgur.com/lWpSIDih.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QCHCN5fh.jpg

The final interior change is a net fitted behind the seats to give extra luggage capacity .

https://i.imgur.com/IVOkXW8h.jpg

couerdelion 26th April 2018 12:13

What does the AFFH stand for?

Ive gone for a change of knobs to see if it masks the look of the BMW a little bit.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/870/4...fe1f588c_z.jpg

PS. Looks great by the way - plenty of ideas there to inspire

DaveP 26th April 2018 12:32

I still really like those Dunlop-alikes

But I was a cheap-skate and bought plastic nut covers (oo-err) instead of new clean bolts.

Dave

casamolino 26th April 2018 13:27

[QUOTE=couerdelion;94524]What does the AFFH stand for?

Its Air Con/Front Fog/Rear Fog/Hazards , Geoff .

couerdelion 26th April 2018 13:46

[QUOTE=casamolino;94526]
Quote:

Originally Posted by couerdelion (Post 94524)
What does the AFFH stand for?

Its Air Con/Front Fog/Rear Fog/Hazards , Geoff .

Thanks Geoff - been trying to work out what switches I need from memory of what was there before.

I think it's just front/rear fogs, hazards, horn (will be seperate from steering wheel I think) and then lights (3 way = off/side/full) then still use stalks for everything else. I've no aircon.

casamolino 26th April 2018 15:08

[QUOTE=couerdelion;94527]
Quote:

Originally Posted by casamolino (Post 94526)

Thanks Geoff - been trying to work out what switches I need from memory of what was there before.

I think it's just front/rear fogs, hazards, horn (will be seperate from steering wheel I think) and then lights (3 way = off/side/full) then still use stalks for everything else. I've no aircon.

Couerdelion my light switch is fitted to the right of the steering column in the dash in a similar position to the Z3 , i have a horn button fitted on the left hand side of the steering column (this can be seen in the picture showing my centre console) Geoff .

casamolino 6th May 2018 15:16

On Friday last i decided it was time to have the Air-Con re-gassed , for various reasons it had not been used for some time , after ringing around it became clear that the days of the £40 recharge are long gone , i ended up paying £80 plus a couple of quid extra for a failed seal . Now dependent on which internet site you believe the cost has increased because
1 A new different more expensive refrigerant has to be used,
2 Imports of the cheap stuff from China have been banned,
3 The older charge units that some garages have are no longer suitable ,
anyway its done just in time for this years UK heatwave , Geoff .

casamolino 18th September 2018 08:39

Good morning i am sure that some on here will be aware that my SWB is for sale , a constant question i had was what was my car registered on the V5 know it never bothered me that my car was still on the V5 as a BMW Z3 , but i decided that it would probably be worthwhile to have a change , in fact one person strongly suggested that it would no longer be possible to MOT my car as it did not look like a Z3! , i MOTd it a week later with no problems before sending the paperwork of to the DVLA ,so i am know driving around in a Tribute 250 , Geoff .

kevemm 18th September 2018 09:28

Geoff to be fair all rebody or replicas must be registered correctly so the questions are correct you cant leave the car as per the original model and make that's has been the case for quite some time even just a re body.
With ANPR you would also run the risk of your car looking like someone had cloned the number plate so it has to be this way. Some of the older replicas C types registered as the original XJ6 Auto etc are really worthless and would require IVA it will happen sooner or later you just dont want to be the person with the car at the time and losing all that money.

Egdik 18th September 2018 10:39

DVLA changes
 
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When my Z3 was put back on the road I contacted the people at DVLA. They seemed to be a competent department, covering a small area of vehicles.

I asked them to title the make of my body conversion as a BMW Tribute 275GTB. They accepted this and gave this as the whole make, rather than title and type. So nothing appears in the type or model spaces. Finally they changed the convertible to coupe at my request.

It will be worth your while ringing them up to get details of what you could title your car. I provided a receipt from Tribute and some photos. Chris was knowledgeable and helpful.

See page 16 of my thread

Attachment 5513

NeilF355 18th September 2018 10:47

Geoff to echo what Kevemm says and give you my own personal experience of the V5C descriptions of body panel kit cars situation - completely out of the blue one day in back in 2007 I received a note (see attached) from my local DVLA office (when they still had local offices) asking to inspect my car.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbiz1h71ed...acted.jpg?dl=0

When I phoned them up to ask if it was about the F355 kit I had put on my MR2 they refused to say. At this point I got somewhat annoyed and asked what would happen if I didnít turn up for the appointment, to which they replied that I would not be able to re-tax the vehicle until the inspection had been done, effectively putting my car off the road in under a year.

On the day of the inspection they phoned me up and asked me to bring all my documentation relating to the kit I had added to the car. When I got there they looked around the car and I explained how the kit was added to the existing monocoque body. They were satisfied that I had still retained the identity of the original car (as I had not altered the monocoque) and they proceeded to change the description of the car on the V5 so I left a happy chappy.

It is also my understanding, although I have never heard of it happening, that an MOT inspector is quite within his rights to refuse to MOT test a car if the description of the car does not match its appearance.


I have since built a 250 GTO body panel kit for which I have also had the V5C description changed. There is certainly a lot more awareness of this requirement amongst buyers of completed kit cars to the extent that not having had the V5C description changed can effect the value of the car.

DaveP 18th September 2018 11:09

I did the same as most advice on here. Filled in the requisite form, included invoices and pics with the original V5. I took 3 weeks to get the response and new V5 with Make : BMW Tribute Kobra, Model : blank.

I needed to then let the insurance company know to cover off things with them also as they knew I was converting from Z3 to Kobra when I originally did the deal with them A Plan Thatcham.

I thought I had to go through these steps as didnít want to fall foul of insurance and or the boys in blue / anpr.

Dave

Jaguartvr 18th September 2018 11:17

When I was hunting for my Daytona I used the DVLA MOT history site. Put in the reg number and it tells you what it is registered as. I was surprised how many Daytona's were still registered as Jaguar XJ's or XJS's. Would take a lot of time and money to get one through an IVA, would mean the values would be a lot less if not almost unsaleable.

Lucky@LeMans 18th September 2018 14:44

There really isn't an excuse not to sort this out with a rebody kit. It is just a simple paperwork exercise. No cost and little effort to get it all legal.

NeilF355 18th September 2018 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 96855)
the DVLA MOT history site. Put in the reg number and it tells you what it is registered as.

I'm not sure if that's always true Jaguartvr. I have a kit car which is described on the DVLAs "Check if a vehicle is taxed and has an MOT" database exactly as it says on the V5C.


However the same car on the DVLAs "Check MOT history" database has a spelling error in the cars description which leads me to believe that the two databases are independent of each other and that cross checks to match up the descriptions are not done.


So unless the MOT history database is manually updated when the V5C is changed then the info could be out of date.

Jaguartvr 18th September 2018 16:29

Sorry, it was "Check MOT history" that I was using. You don't have to put the make and model in, just the reg number and it will then tell you the make and model.

scimjim 18th September 2018 18:37

yep - DVLA & DVSA use different databases, I had problems with a reg transfer because of it!

All of my cars have different names on the two databases!

Egdik 26th December 2018 13:39

MoT history
 
It is interesting to note that 546FTE does not get a response on the 'Check MoT history' site; except the instruction to check the correct registration has been entered . . .

Jaguartvr 26th December 2018 15:04

The number may be on retention as I don't think it was being sold with the car.


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