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micky1mo 25th June 2017 17:05

SAMMIO ALPHA onto a SCIMITAR SS1
 
I'v been looking for a suitable TRIUMPH SPITFIRE donor to build a SAMMIO ALPHA but so far have been unsuccessful.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psazr6ytic.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psg9jdvscu.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psvldrqmar.jpg

However, my efforts did turn up a Scimitar SS1 and as, IMHO, by far the best driving SAMMIO I have built to date was based around the Scimitar SS1 I have decided have a go with this.
The later SS1's use a very strong Galvanized chassis, independent suspension all around, Ford 1.6 CVH engine, 5 speed type 9 gearbox, LSD, 4 pot brakes ect ect. So really it's a no brainer. :ohwell:

This is my donor sourced with the help of SCIM JIM.
1986, 65,000 miles, been stood for 15 years :shock:

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8gvdqjwp.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psafvkp6ar.jpg.

It arrived Thursday and with the help of SCIM JIM this is what it looks like after a days work.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psn5uik11k.jpg

After another 1/2 days work we get this.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pstc4hxttf.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psxgecwctl.jpg.

Next this to do is "trim down" the fiberglass floor pan and frame work, thus making it ready to trial fit the ALPHA body tub. :blabla:
Unfortunately just when I need him, my assistant has gone on holiday for 2 weeks. So this might be a little difficult on my own :eusa_shhh:

redratbike 25th June 2017 20:29

I saw on the reliant forum you'd picked this up well he posted a pic of the body so I guessed it was you

Watching with interest

scimjim 25th June 2017 23:02

as the paint was quite good, it took a little longer to dismantle carefully - I think 2 hours to make a naked SS1 is my record :)

micky1mo 26th June 2017 08:30

Lets just hope the body fits the chassis with out to-much cutting :pray2::pray2:

Paul L 27th June 2017 05:53

Micky1Mo I look forward to seeing how you make this 'combo' work. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

micky1mo 27th June 2017 16:37

With very little trimming the body when on well.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psogzd86hm.jpg

The rear chassis tucked nicely into the boot area, no cutting needed.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psrbddw0tm.jpg

The wheels suited the arches as well.
Front.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psk9kutyxy.jpg

Rear.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psvncm5bqv.jpg

The only stumbling point is the original sills are to long and show in the wheel arches.
Front.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psc7v5fbcr.jpg

Rear.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psvj73pfjx.jpg

The front sills could be cut back but the rear sills will need more work. So for now I'll leave them be.:icon_razz:

I have also lowered the drivers floor pan (as per the last SS1 build) and played with the suspension springs trying to get a suitable ride height .

lancelot link 27th June 2017 18:23

Looks very promising .....

micky1mo 1st July 2017 12:20

Any body know what's going on with this PHOTO BUCKET thing???? :eusa_doh:

It looks like I'v lost all photos I'v ever listed!!! :lock1:

scimjim 1st July 2017 12:28

The photos are still there but PB changed their Terms & Conditions last week in a rediculous attempt to keep afloat and will no longer support third party hosting unless you pay for it. I spent last night downloading 8Gb of photos in 60 folders.

Mister Towed 1st July 2017 13:21

Time to bail out of photobucket?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scimjim (Post 89160)
The photos are still there but PB changed their Terms & Conditions last week in a rediculous attempt to keep afloat and will no longer support third party hosting unless you pay for it. I spent last night downloading 8Gb of photos in 60 folders.

Hmm, best I start moving my pics elsewhere too then as they're probably all going to vanish otherwise. :sick:

micky1mo 6th August 2017 11:24

Work is still on-going.
The bonnet only just fits over the engine but the brake master cylinder is to high so I unbolted the entire pedal assembly and lowered it by about 40mm.

http://i.imgur.com/OPNM4fdh.jpg

If you look closely you can see the hole where the clutch cable (on the right) used to go !!

The original rear chassis rails tucks in nicely under the bottom lip of the boot.

http://i.imgur.com/rvoGjUch.jpg

With a bit of wood packing the body rests on the chassis rail so well you might say it was made for it :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/YPGMwfPh.jpg

It'll just need a little sealant, a few bolts to hold it in place and the back ends supported perfectly :thumb:

micky1mo 10th August 2017 17:40

The more work I do on this conversion the more I wonder weather this body was actually designed for the SS1 :icon_rolleyes:

A heavy brace bar is fitted between the "A" and "B" post of the original chassis.


http://i.imgur.com/dG8bKmnh.jpg

This tied in nicely with the heaver steering brace I fitted earlier.

http://i.imgur.com/hxanhpmh.jpg


The boot space allowed a Spitfire fuel tank to tuck-in nicely under the rear scuttle and allow the original petrol feed and return lines to be used.

http://i.imgur.com/Mw2ZCAwh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VovDbLPh.jpg

The fuel tank fixing brackets and the upper seat belt mounts all bolted to the top of the rear suspension turret in the pre-drilled holes which were complete with fixed M10 nuts! :happy:

http://i.imgur.com/9luScWkh.jpg

Also fitted bigger tyres which fill the arch better.:rofl:

http://i.imgur.com/GTDMZZ4h.jpg

The bonnet is the next problem to deal with. :eusa_whistle:

scimjim 10th August 2017 18:52

Looking great! The 3 captive nuts in the suspension towers are for the standard rollbar.

micky1mo 11th August 2017 16:14

Started on the bonnet.

The shut lines were alittle large so needed trimming.

Before.
http://i.imgur.com/CjCaXE2h.jpg

After.
http://i.imgur.com/NNxw7lnh.jpg

With the old KISS in mind I used a simple "L" bracket from the chassis edge, again using a pre-drilled and bolted hole, to the bonnet bottom lip.:icon_biggrin:

http://i.imgur.com/lrxnfe9h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qHgNqjch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sCwx5neh.jpg

As you can see from the second photo the bonnet just misses the front tyres when opened.

I'll reinforce the lip later and also fit a adjoining supporting bracket but on the whole it's not a bad fit.


By extending the wood packing all the way across the rear chassis the rear of the body tub is better supported.

http://i.imgur.com/SZW8xrPh.jpg

That's most of the major body fitting done and so far I'm pleased with the results.:flame:

http://i.imgur.com/ovIV5S0h.jpg

I can now think about bonding and bolting the body in place. :biggrin:

Paul L 12th August 2017 05:44

Looks like this is all coming together nicely. :cool:

micky1mo 26th August 2017 09:15

I have spent some time on the bonnet area.
A customer wondered if it was possiable to mount the indicators or many-be some spot-lights in the grill area.

After finding a pair of small spot-lights I chopped the grill area to suit.

http://i.imgur.com/xCWBQUth.jpg

I then cut a simple mess grill just to see what it looked like instead of the beer crate grill.

http://i.imgur.com/bnQpBlvh.jpg

Not to bad and only a fraction of the price of the beer grate grill. :icon_mrgreen:

Mistrale 8th October 2017 08:45

You probably already know this, but that SS1 does not have a galvanised chassis - the early chassis was ungalvanized, when they moved to a single wiper, the chassis was galvanised. Unless some kind sole has already replaced the chassis!

I had an SS1 and an SST - great handling and fun little cars! This should be a great build!!

micky1mo 10th October 2017 17:46

After a long lay-off, hopefully, this build will be back on the ramp next week.:becky:

micky1mo 31st October 2017 17:59

Fitted the seats and seats belt today.

I used the original inertia seat belts still in the original position and just re-routed the top seat belt runner.
The lower fixings are through a 30x4 flat bar bolted through the floor and the 50x25x4 box section floor support

https://i.imgur.com/WsBmMbhh.jpg

Also fitted a pair of fiberglass seats which enabled me to see how the seat belts functioned.

https://i.imgur.com/Z7ojIDOh.jpg

The bonnet is presenting a few problems so I re-enforced it to stop it flexing so much.

https://i.imgur.com/EPsgkpih.jpg

The whole thing coming together nicely so I think I am ready to permanently bond/bolt the body to the chassis. :icon_surprised:

scimjim 31st October 2017 19:49

Would a pair of SS1 inner wings bonded to the bonnet give the rigidity you need and protect the Engine from spray? I can bring a pair down at the weekend with the column and crossbar for the D type?


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