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oxford1360 10th October 2012 09:46

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Originally Posted by froggyman (Post 36004)
Unfortunately I have been forced to step back until the DIY is finished so I have to just look at my untouched Vitesse or read the threads to keep me going.

Thinking time is good. Remember, lots of staring at parts. It pays dividends.

WorldClassAccident 10th October 2012 10:50

Staring at parts, sucking teeth, writing lists of jobs, crossing them out and re-ordering them, browsing eBay.

Yep, that is my day pretty much wrapped up.

Mister Towed 10th October 2012 11:32

Sleeping on it is good too. You'll find that solutions to problems will work themselves out in your head while you're dreaming. :bored:

oxford1360 15th October 2012 16:15

Crazy value! FOUR brand new wheels and Michelin tyres - £125

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-new-mich...60889104008%26

WorldClassAccident 15th October 2012 17:34

And for the larger car http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-Wir...cff5c08&_uhb=1

oxford1360 15th October 2012 17:36

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Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 36238)

Hmmm, I think they may go a bit higher yet......:whistle:

garyh 16th October 2012 13:43

i like the steels, they havn't gone up ... any more pics yet? I have seen some nice leather for my seats, just waiting for sample.

oxford1360 16th October 2012 13:49

Hi Gary - I've not yet received the adapters. I have bought some three-ear spinners, and I picked-up two more matching Michelin tyres for £30. That means wheels and tyres have cost £37.50!

I want to mate the spinners to the centre caps that came with the wheels. Like all things Sammio, this isn't totally straightforward. I've had to order some plastic spacers so that the spinner sits correctly. I am confident that once everything is painted and fitted, the wheel centres will look reasonably convincing.

I am definitely going for green wheels.

I shall post some pics of the individual components shortly.

What colour leather have you gone for?

garyh 16th October 2012 13:53

The green is looking really good, very period. Is your dash going to be the strip of fibreglass that you get or do you have other ideas... D24ish?

oxford1360 16th October 2012 14:04

Not 100% sure at the moment. I don't anticipate using the strip of fibreglass.....but plans can change........

I want the interior to have as little as possible.

I had planned to go for the band of leather around the top edge of the cockpit to reduce scratching on entry and exit (I have some thoughts how I might cope with the hump, but they are not totally clear in my head).

I will use an instrument pod/hump similar to Mr T but based on a binnacle that I already have. I am putting new faces on the dials so that they look as if they have come from the Air Ministry.

I plan to have as few gauges and switches as possible on the dash.

The pics that I am using as inspiration while I plan are -


Obviously I'm not going for that number of gauges (It's not a Cobra), it's just the look and layout that I have in mind, e.g. white on black gauge faces and a black dash face.

And gauges inspired by -


I want the car to appear as if it has been built 5-10 years after the war ended and that the builders used bits from scrap Hurricanes etc. and paint that they pinched from the railways.

garyh 16th October 2012 15:06

I like the ideas.

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...t=3113&page=44

I posted a pic on T's thread that shows how to go round hump.

oxford1360 16th October 2012 15:39

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Originally Posted by garyh (Post 36265)
I like the ideas.

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...t=3113&page=44

I posted a pic on T's thread that shows how to go round hump.

Yes, I saw that. I've seen that type of stitching before and I like it. As Mr T mentioned, slightly finer might look even better.

oxford1360 18th October 2012 15:17

More boring pics
 
Well, I thought I had primed every part of the rolling chassis and I was just going through a "mental" build ("mental" being the operative word) as I lay in bed last night and I came to fitting the anti-roll bar.......noooooo!:doh: I realised it was still sitting on a high-up shelf covered in rust and sh*t.

So, off I went this morning and also remembered the brake pipe brackets were still on the old pipes. While the blaster was out I couldn't resist cleaning up the bell housing.

Boring photos, but small progress is still progress.


You little b*stards, don't think you can escape the blaster and the sprayer.


And you two!


I was rather pleased with this. It's a nice casting.

So, boring pics but I should be able to finish off the green tomorrow......if I am lucky.

garyh 18th October 2012 15:21

Love the boring pics. You daren't stand in one place too long at your garage, unless you want to look like a martian.

oxford1360 18th October 2012 15:22

Yup, you'll be blasted and primed. You'll never rust, that's for sure.

davecymru 18th October 2012 16:28

:)

Mister Towed 19th October 2012 08:09

Wow, you're going to have a mean, green resprayed machine!

oxford1360 19th October 2012 09:44

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 36399)
Wow, you're going to have a mean, green resprayed machine!

Hmmm, sounds like a follow-up single for Hawkwind.

oxford1360 25th October 2012 16:00

Same old same old
 
A day down at The Glade. It was a bit damp this morning to get spraying so I stripped the original engine because I need the timing and rocker covers, the sump, the flywheel and the back plate. I discovered a new clutch which was a bonus.

Then, it was time for some more pretty green. In the end I had to evacuate because I couldn't move for parts.

I finished, cleaned the gun, and put everything away. Then I looked round and noticed that I'd forgotten the shockers. Bugger. That can be another day.

I nearly broke my back turning the chassis over on my own to do the underside.


I now have a slight headache. Too many fumes.

A chap walked past while I was doing it and he came over. He said, "Do you mind me asking, but why did you choose that colour?"

Cheeky ******.

Mister Towed 25th October 2012 18:30

Did you let the owl and the pussy-cat choose the colour? :biggrin:

oxford1360 25th October 2012 18:32

It's Sea Green, not Pea Green!

WorldClassAccident 26th October 2012 09:46

It's Sea Green, not Pea Green!

If you Sea Green that is fine, if you Pea Green then go to the Doctor ;-)

garyh 28th October 2012 14:01

Ox, where do you put bodywork? I have the front end in the eaves but have to put the tub on top of chassis when packing up. I will have to wrap tub and leave outside on patio. Have been painting today.

oxford1360 28th October 2012 16:04

Gary, I have the main body tub suspended "upside down" from the eaves. This creates a natural cradle in which to store the bonnet. I've used plenty of straps so that the tub retains its shape and doesn't twist.

I think this pic shows it best.


WorldClassAccident 29th October 2012 07:32

Be careful about the bonnet and body changing shape while stored. Mine has been sat in the garage since my accident with the bonnet resting on top at the back.
Over the weekend I had some friend help move in out of the garage and under a tarpaulin to free up some space. We went to put the bonnet into place so they could see what it would look like and it didn't fit.
The sides had been pushed out at the curve across the width of the bonnet was very different to the bulkhead it was meant to sit on. A bit of swearing a few screws and some gentle pursuasion got it back into shape but that was after just four weeks being stored in the garage.

oxford1360 29th October 2012 08:43

Thanks for the warning WCA. I am expecting some shape change but I don't have any other storage options.

I am "planning" to have a detachable rear end (cut along the line of the back of the cockpit). The rear section will be mounted on a lightweight tubular frame that bolts to the main frame (or uses 4 large pip pins to keep it in place). I am also "planning" half-doors very similar to the ones that MoriniMan described recently. They may hinge at the bottom or the top front. There will also be a boot panel and possibly a "Dutch bonnet" panel within the main flip front.

Dividing the main section in two should give me more capacity to shape things......or it may compound any problems. We shall see.

The reason behind the plan for the removable rear is access. I love working on cars where access is good (think Formula Ford without the bodywork) and I hate working on cars when you have to suspend yourself upside in the engine bay whilst trying to get a double UJ socket drive on a recessed nut whilst being burnt by the exhaust manifold (think all modern cars). If I want to work on the rear suspension, brakes, diff, fuel tank etc., then I want to enjoy it.

I plan to keep the car until I die, so I may as well get it how I want it.

The first car that I built (~25 years ago!!!) can be seen below and we regretted not putting a flip-front on it.


As a point of interest, that UVA M6 kit cost £17k+ in 1988. Please note, I did not fund it. With a nice Rover V8 and Renault transaxle plus all the extra kit and trim, it cost the best part of £25k to complete. It was stunning, sounded great, handled quite well, and we took it to Paris and Le Mans without any problems, but did I ever really fall for it? No. Whereas my little Sammio.............that's true love.

MoriniMan 29th October 2012 17:21

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Originally Posted by oxford1360 (Post 36803)
With a nice Rover V8 and Renault transaxle

'Nice' and 'Rover V8' is an Oxymoron!

I'm with Lee Noble. The V6 engine that comes free with the transaxle is much better. Bob Light used to blow at least two Rovers per season and the Essex V6 never seemed to be working right. If you raid the PRV parts bin it's possible to built a 3 litre 24 valve version with an easy 250bhp.

oxford1360 29th October 2012 18:30

Each to his own. I'm not sure what some forum members have been eating over the weekend, but I'm glad I didn't have any.

Paul L 30th October 2012 15:37

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Originally Posted by oxford1360 (Post 36803)
... I am "planning" to have a detachable rear end (cut along the line of the back of the cockpit). The rear section will be mounted on a lightweight tubular frame that bolts to the main frame (or uses 4 large pip pins to keep it in place). I am also "planning" half-doors very similar to the ones that MoriniMan described recently. They may hinge at the bottom or the top front. There will also be a boot panel and possibly a "Dutch bonnet" panel within the main flip front...

That is going to be very impressive when it is completed. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

oxford1360 30th October 2012 16:43

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Originally Posted by Paul L (Post 36872)
That is going to be very impressive when it is completed. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

Thanks, Paul. As I said, that is the "plan". We shall see whether I go through with it! :icon_lol:

oxford1360 30th October 2012 16:47

Spring is here
 
Another irritating picture of green bits. But, it is evidence of progress. All suspension is now ready. I just wish I had stripped the steering rack for refurbishing sooner. I need to get it cleaned, primed and sprayed before it gets cold. Perhaps I will have to admit defeat and get a heater down at The Glade.


davecymru 30th October 2012 20:01

ok, i admit it, I've been humming Kermit the frogs "it's not easy being green" while I've been reading your recent updates. sorry....

:)

oxford1360 30th October 2012 20:34

If anybody asks the colour I do use Kermit as a reference. It is more meaningful than BS318 217C. :icon_lol:

Alpha 31st October 2012 05:45

Why is everyone knocking the colour? I think it is a very pretty, typically 1950'ies shade - the car will look great in it!

Definitely more interesting than the ubiquitous BRG or red...

Baz from Brussels

WorldClassAccident 31st October 2012 06:20

Over spray on the wheel and tyre!

Good work other than that.

Don't worry about people mocking the colour, i am sure it will look great when you have finished

lancelot link 31st October 2012 09:02

Fantastic colour....loving it...

I had a 56 Chevy years ago in dark green and pale green two tone , it looked fantastic....very period colour....

The pale green on the Figaro's is a nice colour for using as well....

I had an M6 kit years ago as well......about 1990 ...It was a Manta Montage , had the renault V6 in it , modified Beetle floorpan etc....great car to look at , absolute a*sehole to drive though....I was a lot younger , slimmer and fitter back then and could barely get in and out of it without making a tit of myself....

Mine was the car that was imported and built in the magazines in the 80's ..I bought it about 1989 in bits and put it back together again....paid about 2000 from memory and sold it finished for about 4000

I'll post a picture when I find one out....

Mister Towed 31st October 2012 12:52

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Originally Posted by lancelot link (Post 36907)
Fantastic colour....loving it...

The pale green on the Figaro's is a nice colour for using as well....

I think it's going to look stunning too, despite asking about the owl and the pussy cat thing. :icon_frown:

Nissan do some nice fifties inspired colours, I had the 'Vanilla' shade they offered on the Micra on my short-list for a while until my favourite, silver, won the contest.

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/..._b_8186152.jpg

And am I the only straight chap in the Universe that actually likes the Figaro?

oxford1360 31st October 2012 13:05

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 36916)
And am I the only straight chap in the Universe that actually likes the Figaro?

No, there are at least two of us. I love the shape and the original colour schemes. I very nearly went for a set of Figaro gauges when I was toying with black on white - two neat dials with all gauges in-built. They are a little bit pricey but I expect a bargain could be found.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-NI...item3ccbe01371

Mister Towed 31st October 2012 13:08

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Originally Posted by oxford1360 (Post 36917)
No, there are at least two of us. I love the shape and the original colour schemes. I very nearly went for a set of Figaro gauges when I was toying with black on white - two neat dials with all gauges in-built. They are a little bit pricey but I expect a bargain could be found.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-NI...item3ccbe01371

That's lovely and a bargain. Could it be made to work on a Sammio?

Oh, and it's nice to know I'm not the only big, burly chap that likes ridiculous, camp cars. If you look at some of my pictures you'll see my wife's Micra in the background. I actually bought that new for myself in 2007 and I looked liked Mr Incredible in it. I loved it though, but my wife asked to borrow the keys, and before I knew what was happening, her private reg appeared on it and I found myself driving her Merc (which I hated). :(

oxford1360 31st October 2012 13:15

I would have thought so. I think I am going to get a set of Mazda MX5 internals to work (all tests have been positive so far). I have made life easy by going for an MX5 tank and sender, and I am using an MX5 VDO sender for oil pressure (which fits to the Triumph block via a simple thread converter). The temp gauge works with the Triumph sender and the tacho works as you would expect. The biggest challenge was going to be the speedo cable drive, but I have joined the two outers by way of a short tube so that a Mazda end attaches to the speedo, and a Triumph end attaches to the gearbox. The MX5 inner works a treat and fits the drive in the gearbox.
I'm sure the same could be done on a Figaro.

Of course, this has all been done on the bench.........but it will work on the road........probably.


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