Anyway on another note alloys for another vehicle, Lepsons would not refurb them as one has damaged bolt holes, so its down to me. Found someone to make a plug for the holes and someone to tig weld them in. So statred a refurb. Seems daft but the PCD is odd 5x162.?? adapters would require cutting the rear arches of the van. I can not find a picture of a Mercedes 206d fitted with alloys, unless someone else can. These wheels came off a Czech Tatra 4x4 but I doubt their provinence as I have been to the Tatra musium possibly an indian Tata but who knows, they came off a 1972 206d and one down three to go don't look to bad.