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Old 26th February 2018, 13:45
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... Also, i’ve Never quite been sure why the Spitfire/A352 conversion doesn’t need an IVA? Surely the door mods and windscreen removals constitute a fairly big change to the structure of the car?...
MJSS - We tend to talk about the Tribute A352 being a “rebody” that does not require IVA.

But, technically, it is a ‘Radically Altered Vehicle’ that fully complies with the DVLA “8 Point Rule”.

See here:
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registrat...tered-vehicles

This is because the Spitfire has a separate chassis and the chassis is the key to its DVLA registration identity, not the body shell.

You will notice that the original body shell is not even listed in the list of points that you need to keep.

This is the Spitfire rolling chassis I used for my “rebody” and this claims a full house of 14 DVLA points.



The next key point is that any alternative body shell that you fit must be bolted to the chassis.

So in the case of the Tribute A352, the fibreglass body shell is bonded to the cut down Spitfire tub.

This then forms a “new” body shell that is bolted to the Spitfire chassis.

So the fact you cut the windscreen off the body shell is allowed as you are technically changing the body shell.

I used a Frankenstein mixture of cut down Spitfire and other parts underneath my fibreglass body shell.



Please Note:
The Spitfire chassis VIN number is actually attached to the body shell, so you need to retain this in your A352.

Hope that helps, Paul.

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Feel free to start a new thread to cover your build ideas, even if it is still at an early stage.
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Old 26th February 2018, 16:44
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Naughty but.........
Could you graft a A352 to say the Z3 bodyshell complete with odd looking windscreen and get the V5 changed stating A352.
What is then to stop the next owner chopping off the windscreen and doing a few more mods?
You can get an agreed valuation insurance policy advising of all the mods including windscreen chop with pictures so there would be no comeback from the insurance company in case of an accident.
As I say, naughty but.............
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Old 26th February 2018, 17:50
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...What is then to stop the next owner chopping off the windscreen and doing a few more mods?...
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The same 8 point rule that requires you to keep the original, unmodified, monocoque if you want to keep the original Z3 registration without IVA.

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Old 27th February 2018, 06:52
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I’ve Never quite been sure why the Spitfire/A352 conversion doesn’t need an IVA? Surely the door mods and windscreen removals constitute a fairly big change to the structure of the car?
Hi MJSS

The body of a Spitfire is completely separate from the chassis. As Paul says, only the centre tub and half the boot/rear wings area are needed for an A352. The windscreen/doors/bonnet are all bolt on anyway, so even were it of monocoque construction their removal would be within the DVLA rebody rules.

Not just because it's the way I did it, but I would go the Spitfire route simply because it's the least difficult. I was going to say 'easiest' but that's without doubt the wrong adjective..........

Thanks for kind comments!

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Old 27th February 2018, 08:21
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Lightbulb Spitfire Route

This wouldn't be a bad place to start from......

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Old 27th February 2018, 08:35
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Everyone,

Thanks very much for all the replies. Really didn’t expect this much help!

I think i’ve been convinced to go down the Spitfire/D-Type route. Definitely appreciate it’s a case of ‘least difficult’ rather than easiest, but it will (fingers crossed) give me the look i’m hoping for.

I suppose it’s time to find a Spitfire then. Thanks for the link Mick. Good to know how little Spitfire I actually need to start from!
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Old 27th February 2018, 23:26
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The Herald (91”) would make a better choice due to it wheelbase being closer to the Jag’s 90”. The Spit is too short at 83”.
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Old 28th February 2018, 06:13
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The Herald (91”) would make a better choice due to it wheelbase being closer to the Jag’s 90”. The Spit is too short at 83”.
True, but I do believe that the Tribute D Type shell was narrowed about 4" to compensate for the lack of length and make the proportions look 'right' on the Spit wheelbase.
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Old 28th February 2018, 08:26
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That ebay chassis looks very good indeed, even the outriggers and front crossmember appear sound. If it's as good as advertised then that would indeed be a very good place to start. I spent weeks repairing mine, which is Ok, but very tedious and costs can mount up. It also benefits from being the later swing spring, and probably the better diff.
From memory Spitfire graveyard were quoting £250.00 for a reasonable tub.
I guess just check it has a V5 with it and you're away.
Happy hunting
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Old 28th February 2018, 12:18
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True, but I do believe that the Tribute D Type shell was narrowed about 4" to compensate for the lack of length and make the proportions look 'right' on the Spit wheelbase.
I understand the A352 is narrowed, but I was referring the D-type body. I'm in the process of fitting a D-type body to a Factory Five Racing Cobra chassis. My rear axle width is around 59-60", which fits nicely inside the D body. The front is a little more challenging since the D's fenders come down around the front tires. I may need to narrow my front track to keep the "look" I'm shooting for.
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Old 28th February 2018, 12:56
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What are people's thoughts on this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-S...gAAOSwvphaksyU

The other rolling chassis does look good, but I'm worried that that level of chassis up restoration prior to rebodying might be beyond me (this is my first kit car, never gone beyond light restoration (sanding/filling etc...), and the odd new panel before.
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Old 28th February 2018, 13:58
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Looks a good start point.
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Talking Shopping, boring?

I had to consider for almost a nanosecond whether to zip to Asda in the Micra or the A352?





Good choice!

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Worth investing in a baby seat. That way you can park in the mother & child spot which is wider so you don't get idiots opening their car door against it.
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Nice car! That is all ...
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