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Roadster · #**121** 24th August 2015, 08:50

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Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident

I know they are the same picture but the black one looks best!

I agree with you Nick
Do I have enough patience to get the body as good as yours.
Black will show every sin

y cymro · #**122** 24th August 2015, 08:50

That's very nice. I wonder what it would look like on 17 or 18" wheels rather than the 24s that you've drawn?

smash · #**123** 24th August 2015, 08:58

Probably very slightly - I mean really very slightly - like the Raffo Belva?

The black 'vision' looks bloody fantastic!! If you can keep close to that aspect ratio in real life it's a winner for sure

WorldClassAccident · #**124** 24th August 2015, 09:01

Do I have enough patience to get the body as good as yours.

It doesn't take patience it takes beer!

The car on the other hand takes patience :-)

Roadster · #**125** 24th August 2015, 09:48

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Originally Posted by y cymro

That's very nice. I wonder what it would look like on 17 or 18" wheels rather than the 24s that you've drawn?

Just for you Y cymro

They maybe 19's im not sure
1/ because I never work out scale
2/ I drew it in a couple of minutes

y cymro · #**126** 24th August 2015, 16:01

Many thanks. You have a good looking design there. Looking forward to seeing it pop out from the mould.

Roadster · #**127** 25th August 2015, 17:27

On a quest to get the detail right - at first glance im sure most think they look the same.
The outline is close but the details are different

This version no scoop no vents
The Headlamps are more to scale
Wheels closer to the schnitzers im going with and closer to scale
The grille section of the front lays back on this version as opposed to up right and undercut on the previous sketches.
I tried ink as opposed to the pencil lines - there is no mistaking the contours

y cymro · #**128** 25th August 2015, 19:03

As a conceptual sketch, I think your design is excellent - and I'll buy one if you ever build it exactly like this with the usual caveat about price.

I can see a few issues around the size of wheels and how you'll manage to build the wheel arches as you plan to, and fill them with a suitable size of wheel. Seeing how you have captured the correct looking relationship between horizontal bonnet join, door handle, and top of the tyres, you'll notice that your proposed wheels appear to be around 22" dia or more, which look fantastic but will mess up the handling and acceleration, and the fronts may foul when steering.

I hope you can see what I mean from this:

You'll be entering a market with a design very similar to Anthony Cherry's Bertini:

I like Anthony's car very much though prefer the aggressive front design of yours. My feeling is that the Bertini front end doesn't have the presence expected of a sports car. I'd like to see your front on the Bertini whilst keeping the very pretty rear-end of that car. It would be interesting to see what your design ahead of the wheel centres would look like grafted onto the Bertini.

Anyway, please accept my comments in the positive manner in which I mean them. You have an excellent concept and it will be a shame to have to change it too much to get to production.
Good luck

y cymro · #**129** 25th August 2015, 19:11

Looking at the Bertini, I wonder how it would look with headlights positioned at the minimum allied by Construction and Use (500mm from ground to the centre line), the fog light lowered to suit, and your inverted 'U' shape mouth.

IanA · #**130** 25th August 2015, 19:20

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Originally Posted by y cymro

Looking at the Bertini, I wonder how it would look with headlights positioned at the minimum allied by Construction and Use (500mm from ground to the centre line), the fog light lowered to suit, and your inverted 'U' shape mouth.

Just pop one over to Chris- that would take him about 45 mins.

Danny_HUFC · #**131** 25th August 2015, 19:31

Dont take this in a bad way but looking at them pics I cant believe how much your sketch looks like the bertini.

Mind you its probibly cheaper to have you design made by tribute than actually buy a bertini kit!

Roadster · #**132** 25th August 2015, 20:34

[QUOTE=y cymro;70649]As a conceptual sketch, I think your design is excellent - and I'll buy one if you ever build it exactly like this with the usual caveat about price.

I can see a few issues around the size of wheels and how you'll manage to build the wheel arches as you plan to, and fill them with a suitable size of wheel. Seeing how you have captured the correct looking relationship between horizontal bonnet join, door handle, and top of the tyres, you'll notice that your proposed wheels appear to be around 22" dia or more, which look fantastic but will mess up the handling and acceleration, and the fronts may foul when steering.

I hope you can see what I mean from this:

I appreciate your comments - the z3 in the pic has 16" wheels

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this z300s has 19"

Still a little off but much closer - remember the z300s is my starting point so if you can squint you can see that cutting off the long nose takes us very close

Roadster · #**133** 25th August 2015, 20:41

You'll be entering a market with a design very similar to Anthony Cherry's Bertini:

I like Anthony's car very much though prefer the aggressive front design of yours. My feeling is that the Bertini front end doesn't have the presence expected of a sports car. I'd like to see your front on the Bertini whilst keeping the very pretty rear-end of that car. It would be interesting to see what your design ahead of the wheel centres would look like grafted onto the Bertini.

Anyway, please accept my comments in the positive manner in which I mean them. You have an excellent concept and it will be a shame to have to change it too much to get to production.
Good luck[/QUOTE]

I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but - have you seen this in real

I visited interested in buying a Gt25 I told Anthony that the rear looked like he had not finished it - The golf 5 diffuser is the only feature

Roadster · #**134** 25th August 2015, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Danny_HUFC

Dont take this in a bad way but looking at them pics I cant believe how much your sketch looks like the bertini.

Mind you its probibly cheaper to have you design made by tribute than actually buy a bertini kit!

This is how Anthony put the Bertini front end together and before you all complain he told me so.
Ive been building cars for 30 years and for the price he paid (£Xx,xxxx) to devop it I think somebody took advantage
you could buy a brand new 911 for that.

WorldClassAccident · #**135** 25th August 2015, 21:13

I like the rear of the Bertini but prefer what I designed with the Z300s.

I think the front of the Bertini looks carp. Deliberately misspelling

Design what YOU WANT. I did and I am very happy. Chris is excellent at interpretation of sketches and ideas.

Roadster · #**136** 25th August 2015, 21:23

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Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident

I like the rear of the Bertini but prefer what I designed with the Z300s.

I think the front of the Bertini looks carp. Deliberately misspelling

Design what YOU WANT. I did and I am very happy. Chris is excellent at interpretation of sketches and ideas.

Nick I agree the Gt25 is a Carp vs the concept is a Catfish

Mine will be 90% Z300s the shape is great