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Formosa Builds, Ideas and Discussion Formosa 120 GR and related builds

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Old 26th September 2017, 18:58
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Fantastic superb very period looking as it should be right up my street well done!!
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Old 26th September 2017, 19:42
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Amazing Gary. You should be rightly proud

Re the pictures, you need to resize them before uploading as the current forum software doesn't do it unfortunately.

Cheers, John
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Old 26th September 2017, 20:51
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In a word, WOW!
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Old 26th September 2017, 23:16
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Well done, a fine looking car. Good luck with the photo shoot and order book.
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Old 27th September 2017, 05:51
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Outstanding.
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Old 27th September 2017, 06:16
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Great job Gary - looks very much like a slimmed down G46 to me.

Loving the exposed frame on the inside, I'd say it reminds me of a Maserati Birdcage but the welding on yours looks better.

If you use that as a demonstrator you should get some decent orders in quickly, if you choose to sell it on it should make well over 20k.

Either way, very well done on creating another great looking car.
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Old 27th September 2017, 07:02
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Thank you ....

It has been built for a customer Towed ...I am hoping that a few sales will put me in the position of being able to build a demonstrator / car for myself and introduce another build thread as well ...which always seems to be popular.

The way prices are going and recent events ...I would say Graham's investment in this car is safe , as I think its a 25-30,000 right now and I can't see prices dropping for the forseeable ...
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Old 27th September 2017, 07:25
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Wow. that looks amazing. Love the exposed framework on the doors - don't cover it up!

I think if you produce a subframe to mount to an existing kit chassis may open more markets (My brother had a Vitesse in the early 80s - not for me!). Cobra chassised Formosa with fire gargling V8 sounds very appealing but we're into IVA then. Could use sacrificial kit such as Tiger - well established and plenty of cheap already registered on the road jobs that wouldn't need all the overhauling. Bit like the Healey body that was offered for 7's for a while albeit it was way too basic.

That said top prices often depend on exclusivity...

Whatever the case - it's a winner! And I hear the GRP is pretty good too
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Old 27th September 2017, 12:10
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I agree Smash , variety of donors is no bad thing ..with a little tweak , it will go on a Locost chassis , it will also go on an SE5 Scimitar with a slightly bigger tweak ...The obvious Spartans , pilgrims etc are all candidates too ...thats why I changed the narrow Triumph track width by widening the bodies over 4'' in the end ..
I am happy to do the body mod and bespoke frame to go on a locost or similar , if someone brings me a chassis and orders a kit ...

Exclusivity is a luxury I cant afford right now ...
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Old 27th September 2017, 22:23
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What's the tweak needed for a se5a chassis?
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Old 28th September 2017, 08:32
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About a 7'' extension to the rear edge of the bonnet and the front edge of the lower wing panel , just in front of the vent ...
We can do it for a small fee , or we can supply an extra 10'' or so of the rear of the bonnet and the front edge of the lower wing for a home builder to do the graft ....its better to do it with the body in place anyway really , but can be done off ...
The wider body will be ok with SE5 track width , but not SE6 ... the bonnet may or may not need a bulge or scoop ...

Obviously the frame would need modifying , but not sure now much until we did one ..only bottom rails , would be better to supply a frame without the steel floorpans in it and reduce the price accordingly ...

A 7'' longer bonnet would look fantastic ....
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Old 28th September 2017, 21:15
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How close is it to be suitable for a Scimitar ss1 chassis?
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Old 28th September 2017, 21:33
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It won't go on an SS1 chassis ..they are about 83'' from memory and that would involve shortening the car around 8-9'' ...There is no where I personally feel you could do that without compromising the shape ...
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Old 29th September 2017, 06:42
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...or you could try putting it on a Herald or Vitesse chassis.

I think it might fit without too much chopping and changing of the body, and you'd benefit from tax exempt status (but maybe not MOT exempt???).

Plus, as a bonus of going down that radical route, you'd also have a more characterful choice of Triumph four and six cylinder engines rather than the SS1's Ford CVH, an engine Jeremy Clarkson described back in the early 80's as '...so nasty Moulinex rejected it for its Magimix.' I had an XR3i in 1983 and he was right, it's a nasty, thrashy lump that revs ok but sends loads of vibration through the major controls and sounds like a bag of spanners being rattled.

If anyone's worrying about the way an old Herald chassis handles, don't. My Spyder was on a Mk1 Vitesse base with swing axles at the back and, with all new bushes, bearings, shocks and suitably softened springs, it handled very well on the road. Shedding 350 kilos of steel bodywork and lowering the centre of gravity made for a very sweet handling package.

Phil J's old no.2 is built on a Courier van chassis upgraded to Rotoflex rear suspension, and about two years ago his car lapped a race track in exactly the same time as a Porsche 911, and that was before he gave his engine another 60 or so bhp.

Build one of Gary's latest creations on a Herald or Vitesse chassis, soften the suspension and give the engine a straight through exhaust and the car will put a huge smile on your face every time you drive it. What more do you want?

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Old 29th September 2017, 22:50
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Looks beautiful
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Went to see this today. Well done Gary and Glan, it's an impressive thing in the GRP/metal. Much wider than I expected and with a great deal more presence than a Sammio - it sits on it's wheels much better. I hadn't realised that the engine has been relocated back, this is a great improvement. Glad to see the original Vitesse DHC that was intended to be a donor has been given a reprieve, too.
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Went to see this today. Well done Gary and Glan, it's an impressive thing in the GRP/metal. Much wider than I expected and with a great deal more presence than a Sammio - it sits on it's wheels much better. I hadn't realised that the engine has been relocated back, this is a great improvement. Glad to see the original Vitesse DHC that was intended to be a donor has been given a reprieve, too.
THANK YOU ...I took a customer across today late morning to have a look ...shame we missed each other .

Mark fired her up whilst we were there and she sounded great ...back tomorrow to me and hopefully in for an MOT ...
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Old 6th October 2017, 17:23
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Well she went in for MOT ....We didn't pass but its nothing too serious ...

We had an earthing fault on the headlights ...a recurring one thats now fixed ...
An indicator that suddenly refused to work on the front ...fixed.
A tail light that likes to flicker on and off due to a crap connector plug.
A very slight weep on a front brake pipe ...fixed.
A low reading on the handbrake because some knob ..(me) didn't re-adjust it up before the test ...fixed.

So just the rear light to deal with from an MOT point of view ...

It means I didn't get time to do the niggle jobs for Graham to get the car for tomorrow ...I need to go and get the headlight covers , black the rims and fit the thread-sert rubber bush things to hold them on with M4 panheads.
Fit the seatbelts ...a 62 Chassis enabled me to MOT without them.
fit some inner arch panels to stop Graham getting wet ..
fix the grille in a bit better , the drive down highlighted a flex in the middle ...the drive down also highlighted a rattly door latch I need to adjust ...
I want to fit rubber trim around the bonnet aperture and a piece of U section at rear of cockpit to stop seat belt chafe when fitted ...
but really thats kind of it ... a couple of hours today , a couple tomorrow and a couple when the rubber trim and headlight lenses arrive and we are there ...

The only other thing the drive to MOT highlighted is that the car is a joy to drive ..pretty responsive , plenty of room compared to its cousins and an absolute blast ...

Graham should be taking ownership by mid week at the latest ....
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Old 6th October 2017, 17:36
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Fantastic well done
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Old 6th October 2017, 18:18
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It will be great to see it on a full outing on the road.

n.b. Do I detect a hint of excitement about the arrival of the rubber ware?
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