Are you madabout kit cars      
 "We've Got Kit Cars Covered" Information about Madabout-Kitcars.com Contact Madabout-Kitcars.com         Home of UK kit cars - madabout-kitcars.com Various kit car write ups All the latest kit car news Kit car related and general discussion

Search
Manufacturers
Kit Cars
Kit Car Data sheets
Picture Gallery
SVA Knowledgebase
Clubs & Communities
Build cost estimator
Kit cars for sale
Knowledge Base 
KitcarUSA.com
Classic-Kitcars.com
 

Go Back   Madabout Kitcars Forum > Mad Build Area > Tribute Automotive Builds

Tribute Automotive Builds Discuss your Tribute kit build

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 5th July 2014, 09:33
WorldClassAccident WorldClassAccident is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,389
WorldClassAccident is on a distinguished road
Default Searching for power

My Z300S is a bit tame with only ~200BHP compare to the 585BHP in my Mercedes.

If I am going to be using it regularly I need more POWEEEERRRRR!

Anyone any experience / stories about these superchargers?

http://www.superchargerswarehouse.co...Superchargers/

It seems an easy 80BHP and less faff than changing the inlets for ~20BHP which seems to be the main alternative.

Any other ideas welcome. I am also looking on BMW forums so if I find anything I will report back
Reply With Quote
Available from eBay
  #2  
Old 5th July 2014, 09:53
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

WCA that's just rubbish really.

Its just a little fan blowing some air into the air intake, and to charge a hundred pounds for that is robbery.

80 BHP? that kind of power increase costs a good 1500 plus.

A proper turbo really whangs the air into the intake, and in large volumes too, it spins at 40 000 revs to achieve that as well.

A small electric fan compared with a real turbo is so petty by comparison at air moving, its not even in the same league.


I went this route ages ago, and all these BHP claims are false,
As far as I remember, one of the car TV programs tested one or two of these gadgets and, one actually impeded the airflow and power was lost because of it.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 5th July 2014, 12:22
BazMason BazMason is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Falkirk, Scotland
Posts: 100
BazMason is on a distinguished road
Default

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGWgvJN1_8

Seems like you need to buy a leaf blower!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 5th July 2014, 13:41
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

Having seen the video, I think the leaf blowers may spoil the look of your car WCA!

I rest my case........
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 5th July 2014, 15:17
Mister Towed's Avatar
Mister Towed Mister Towed is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,927
Mister Towed is on a distinguished road
Default

Done with typical Aussie understatement...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 5th July 2014, 20:26
Tribute Automotive's Avatar
Tribute Automotive Tribute Automotive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,622
Tribute Automotive is on a distinguished road
Default

This should do the trick:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/English-El...item20ce4022c2

Only kidding. But this on the other hand I am serious about:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1312127833...84.m1423.l2649
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 5th July 2014, 20:42
micky1mo's Avatar
micky1mo micky1mo is offline
Senior Member
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,031
micky1mo is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive View Post
Th

Only kidding. But this on the other hand I am serious about:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1312127833...84.m1423.l2649
The only problem is that BMW V12 runs 3 ECU's, 1 for the left bank, 1 for the right bank and 1 to join the other to together, I only know as we'v worked on one.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 5th July 2014, 20:52
Tribute Automotive's Avatar
Tribute Automotive Tribute Automotive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,622
Tribute Automotive is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by micky1mo View Post
The only problem is that BMW V12 runs 3 ECU's, 1 for the left bank, 1 for the right bank and 1 to join the other to together, I only know as we'v worked on one.
Gaffer tape all 3 ECU's together and it only has 1 to worry about!!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 5th July 2014, 21:57
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

Anyone who thinks a 12 volt computer fan can produce 80 BHP
has somehow missed the boat as to a basic grasp of physics and engineering I reckon.......
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 5th July 2014, 22:13
fatbloke fatbloke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 429
fatbloke is on a distinguished road
Default

I think a pipe from one of the nose vents to the air intake would probably be just as/more effective.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 5th July 2014, 22:25
WorldClassAccident WorldClassAccident is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,389
WorldClassAccident is on a distinguished road
Default

To be honest Chris, adding a V12 to run the supercharger isn't much more sensible that using a jet engine.

Just wondering how practical it would be to fit a jet engine...


...it would blow away the F1 engined Renault Espace they did.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 5th July 2014, 23:53
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default Fitting a jet engine to a road vehicle

It looks fairly straight forward WCA, it's already been done some years ago on a van like mine and taken down the drag strip several times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9siUbN0JD0

[IMG][/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG]

Most likely would not look right on your car though.....
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 8th July 2014, 19:14
IanA's Avatar
IanA IanA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Oxon
Posts: 937
IanA is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident View Post
Any other ideas welcome. I am also looking on BMW forums so if I find anything I will report back
One of the first things I thought of when considering the Z3... the 1.9 is cheaper, the 2.8 is a good start and how easy would it be to take an installed Z300S kit off and put it on an M version of the Z3 later on. Now I know and there is a ready market for ready stripped donors!!!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 8th July 2014, 19:27
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey WCA, have you considered Nitrous oxide?

Your 200 BHP ought to be enough to compete with the mums on the school run in their Chelsea tractors, but with nitrous, when you felt adventurous, you could just hit the fast button, and instantly you would have 300BHP!

( Assuming you fitted the 100 BHP jet to the system)

That should be enough to piss off most things on the road.

A lot cheaper than a proper turbo system.

If you cannot run to that, perhaps and engine re-map may work for you? Worth checking out if you are serious about more power....
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 8th July 2014, 23:00
WorldClassAccident WorldClassAccident is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,389
WorldClassAccident is on a distinguished road
Default

Can you run NOx as an always on option? I thought it was press the button for a short burst.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 8th July 2014, 23:05
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

You are correct, push the button when you want to win!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 8th July 2014, 23:06
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

If you ran it all the time, it would melt your pistons or run out, whichever came first!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 9th July 2014, 09:26
WorldClassAccident WorldClassAccident is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,389
WorldClassAccident is on a distinguished road
Default

I need maximum attack at all times.

Might keep this one tame and see if I can sneak another car past the wife with full street fighter spec.

If I paint it black too and make sure they are never seen parked together she might never know...

Just read slagenracings engine tuning posts and have decided to crawl away into a puddle of inadequacy. I was thinking of bolting on a hair dryer while he is machining the valve ports!!!

Last edited by WorldClassAccident; 9th July 2014 at 09:33..
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 9th July 2014, 09:45
Mister Towed's Avatar
Mister Towed Mister Towed is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,927
Mister Towed is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident View Post
I was thinking of bolting on a hair dryer while he is machining the valve ports!!!
Didn't your Z3 donor come with a selection of hairdryers, curling tongs, woman's weekly's etc in the boot? Have a look, they might still be there...
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 9th July 2014, 11:41
Scottie22 Scottie22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,161
Scottie22 is on a distinguished road
Default

Nice one Towed!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +0. The time now is 17:00.

copyright madabout-kitcars.com 2000-2019
terms and conditions | privacy policy