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Old 10th October 2012, 13:28
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Low mileage box would be good, I get the feeling the one in the sportster is a bit tired - its a shame the m50's are at a different angle or I could get something much newer. 6 speed would be nice
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Old 10th October 2012, 22:04
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Low mileage box would be good, I get the feeling the one in the sportster is a bit tired - its a shame the m50's are at a different angle or I could get something much newer. 6 speed would be nice
I've not tried but I wonder if it's possible to swap the bell hosing from an e30 'box to an M52 'box. The 'transmission' bit might be the same??

For example only.....

http://www.e12m535i.com/BMW_E12/myM5...al/tranny7.JPG

Maybe a six speed gearbox in a Sportster is possible

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Old 15th October 2012, 14:17
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Following a reorganisation, my Sabre build photo's can now be found here.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peters-...7631773855356/

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Old 18th October 2012, 18:48
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Week 8 update......

I've finished off mating the BMW pedal box to the MBM servo. It seems to work well with the stroke of the pedal box matching the servo travel. This is probably as far as I can go without mounting it in the car so it will now be shelved and fitted later.


Pedal box connection by marlinpeter, on Flickr

I also grabbed a bargain Flo-flex diff mount that was on offer at half price!


Poly diff. mount by marlinpeter, on Flickr

Then on to further dismantling of the Sabre bodywork.


Front bodywork removed by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Rear wings removed by marlinpeter, on Flickr

I've run out of space in my lock up so all those body parts were taken home. Washed, wrapped and stored in the garden shed. All the bright work, catches and hinges have been removed.


Cleaned body parts by marlinpeter, on Flickr

Apart from the passenger side door and the boot lid, the remaining bodywork/central tub is all one piece so will require extra space before it can be removed......

...peter
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Old 24th October 2012, 15:54
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Week 9 has seen some rapid and dramatic changes to the car. In only about 1.5 days work I was able to finish removing the bodywork and most of the front suspension.

Firstly, I finished removing the passenger door and the boot flap followed by the internal 'A' post supports and approx. 10 bolts holding the body tub to the chassis.
You have to disconnect the handbrake from the cables which was dead simple as this plate just unbolted from the top without having to crawl under the car.


Handbrake mounting by marlinpeter, on Flickr

Next, my two sons and I lifted the whole body tub and have stored it above the rolling chassis.


Out of body experience by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Body off! by marlinpeter, on Flickr

My original plan was to rebuild the trolley I used when I built my Sportster and mount the chassis on the trolley so that I can move the chassis in and out of the garage. Luckily the wheels are still in the back of the garden shed. But then it occurred to me that I could work on the front suspension, remove it all, refurbish it at home and then re-fit it to move the chassis around and then do the back end, simples!! So that's the plan and I saved a day or two building another trolley. I'll clean, de-rust and repaint the chassis in two sections.

So I set to work with the spanners and removed the front suspension.


Front brakes, hubs, etc by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Front wishbones by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Front suspension gone! by marlinpeter, on Flickr

About three hours later it was all in pieces in the back of my Rover estate.

I've now got a backlog of parts to be cleaned up, de-rusted, refurbished and re-painted.

...peter

P.S. the only reason for that old Ford gearbox and the gash BMW engine still being in the chassis is that I've run out of space and if I remove them, I have nowhere to put them. So they're staying there out of harms way for now
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Hi, have been following your thread with inerest and saw this one at the Exeter Show today.

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Hi Froggy,

That is indeed a fine example!!
The bright winter sunshine and the reflections show up the quality of the bodywork and paint finish.

thanks for posting the pics

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Its so reserved. One of the few kits that really does not look like a kit. Im loving those steel wheels too, and the triple wipers.
What plans for your wheels Peter?
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Its so reserved. One of the few kits that really does not look like a kit. Im loving those steel wheels too, and the triple wipers.
What plans for your wheels Peter?
I'm a long way off choosing my wheels but I do like the look of the steel wheels. Colour coded steels can look very smart and I've already picked up a set of old chrome hub caps of that well known auction site. But SWMBO likes wire wheels, so we'll have to wait and see what budget is left.
The steel wheels on this car are particularly nice. Anyone know what they are? Maybe German 'winter tyre' rims?
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Week 10 update.....

Not much to see this week despite putting a good two days work. I've been dismantling and cleaning up the front suspension components. Lots of work but not much to show

The Royale ball joint adaptors have been de-rusted and cleaned up ready for some paint. These were never painted by the original builder so some some corrosion pitting is evident. These fit in the top of the Sierra front hubs and then take a Metro type ball joint.


Front upright ball joint adaptors by marlinpeter, on Flickr

The front hubs have been dismantled, cleaned and are being painted. New bearings will be fitted after paint has hardened fully.


Front hubs by marlinpeter, on Flickr

I've got two sets of new bearings sitting in their boxes ready to be installed.

Hopefully more to see next week....

...peter
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I'm a long way off choosing my wheels but I do like the look of the steel wheels. Colour coded steels can look very smart and I've already picked up a set of old chrome hub caps of that well known auction site. But SWMBO likes wire wheels, so we'll have to wait and see what budget is left.
The steel wheels on this car are particularly nice. Anyone know what they are? Maybe German 'winter tyre' rims?
Wire wheels do look great but, as many of the Pembleton owners have found, they can mess up the handling big time because of the increase in unsprung weight - especially if you are having to use an adapter rather than an original splined hub. (Could be a good excuse not to be persuaded by the SWMBO )

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Old 1st November 2012, 18:59
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Wire wheels do look great but, as many of the Pembleton owners have found, they can mess up the handling big time because of the increase in unsprung weight - especially if you are having to use an adapter rather than an original splined hub. (Could be a good excuse not to be persuaded by the SWMBO )

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Thanks Robin, I had not heard that before. Maybe it's more significant on a very light vehicle like the Pembleton.
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Hi there

Following your story with interest. I have an option to buy one of these cars however it currently has an automatic gearbox (ford 2.8 i) Would it be possible to fit a chevy small block, would it be too big or too heavy??

Cheers......Geoff
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Hi there

Following your story with interest. I have an option to buy one of these cars however it currently has an automatic gearbox (ford 2.8 i) Would it be possible to fit a chevy small block, would it be too big or too heavy??

Cheers......Geoff
Hi Geoff,

I've not heard of any Sabres with a chevy block but I think I have seen one advertised with a Rover V8 engine. I don't think the weight would be an issue as the Sabre chassis is extremely strong and the whole car is quite substantial.

You could try contacting someone at the Royale Owners Club, they are a very helpful bunch
http://www.royaleownersclub.org.uk/committee.asp
Ken Baker is their memsec and very knowledgeable.

Keep us posted if you decide to buy one.

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Well week 11 update seems to be all about new parts.

It's a bit of a long story but when I bought the Sabre the guy selling it said he had a box of new parts that would be included. The problem was that when it came to delivering the car he couldn't remember where the box of stuff was. It's taken a long time but finally I picked up the box of bits yesterday.

I took the big box home and it was like a Christmas tombola as I gradually pulled out each small package to discover what I had. When the box was empty I had nearly covered our kitchen table with lights, trim and all kinds of fittings and spare parts. It will probably save me a few hundred pounds in the rebuild.


Santas grotto? by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Santas grotto by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Santas grotto? by marlinpeter, on Flickr


Santas grotto? by marlinpeter, on Flickr

He also had a new'ish petrol tank which will replace the bent one on the car.


Replacement fuel tank by marlinpeter, on Flickr

I also picked up on ebay a reconditioned power steering rack for only 24!!
I've now got to find some pipes and hoses which will probably cost more than the rack!


Power Steering rack by marlinpeter, on Flickr

...and finally I've got some extra space with another rented lock-up....


Space - the final frontier? by marlinpeter, on Flickr

So now I should be able move around the chassis in the other lock-up!

...peter

P.S. If you click on the pictures, I have annotated the 'table' pictures with notes in Flickr

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Week 12 - mini update.....
  • Front suspension coil-overs have been dismantled for inspection.
  • Front hub bearings fitted and hubs re-assembled (Metro ball joint socket and a 32mm deep socket are ideal sizes for re-inserting the Sierra bearings)
  • Front cross member cleaned and ready for painting
  • Chassis stripped of gearbox, propshaft and old pipes ready for preparation



Chassis - front by marlinpeter, on Flickr

I'm thinking of getting some new dampers.
Anyone got any feedback on the following company?
http://www.protechshocks.co.uk/

...peter
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That sure is a substantial chassis! - and beautifully made - particularly the front cross member.

Have you asked Protech if they make dampers for vehicles this big!!!
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That's the make that Phil Gregory supplies for the Pembleton. They are certainly well made and seem to do the job (Pembleton is a bit lighter though lol)

Robin
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That sure is a substantial chassis! - and beautifully made - particularly the front cross member.

Have you asked Protech if they make dampers for vehicles this big!!!
It weighs a 'ton'.
I thought the Marlin chassis was substantial until I got this one!!
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That's the make that Phil Gregory supplies for the Pembleton. They are certainly well made and seem to do the job (Pembleton is a bit lighter though lol)

Robin
Thanks Robin. An online search hasn't thrown up any negative feedback so far. A little bit more expensive than standard GAZ dampers but cheaper than AVO and they look nicer :-)
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