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Old 21st September 2016, 11:29
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Hello,

I'm rather new to the kit car world and would appreciate any advice you can give me!!

I have a ford focus 1.6 se with 60,000 on the clock I know the history as we had it since new. The car has come to surplus requiment and would like to use it for a project.

Ok the idea is to fit the engine from focus to a 4x4 looking kit car, something in the lines of a Rickman ranger as I like the style of it. The car will also be used on farm tracks to access fields, I don't want a offroader ect just something that will be happy going through a muddy puddle or two.


I don't want to tune it just keep it standard using as much of the focus as I can.

I know I'll probably need a type 9 box and a bell housing few other bits for the transmission.

My question is how hard would it be to do a swop assuming the kit car has already has a pinto lump in it.

Any advice on what can and can't be done would be great thanks Mud

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Old 22nd September 2016, 09:32
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Hello,

I'm rather new to the kit car world and would appreciate any advice you can give me!!

I have a ford focus 1.6 se with 60,000 on the clock I know the history as we had it since new. The car has come to surplus requiment and would like to use it for a project.

Ok the idea is to fit the engine from focus to a 4x4 looking kit car, something in the lines of a Rickman ranger as I like the style of it. The car will also be used on farm tracks to access fields, I don't want a offroader ect just something that will be happy going through a muddy puddle or two.


I don't want to tune it just keep it standard using as much of the focus as I can.

I know I'll probably need a type 9 box and a bell housing few other bits for the transmission.

My question is how hard would it be to do a swop assuming the kit car has already has a pinto lump in it.

Any advice on what can and can't be done would be great thanks Mud
I'm unsure of the dimensions, but the engine bay is fairly narrow, so may be a squeeze with the manifolds etc - the zetec se is a nice small engine, but the anciliaries add a lot. Most Rickmans Rangers will have a type 9 box, so you should be ok here. The other thing to think about if final drive, as the pinto probably already in one of these is more suited to slower reving, and the se is a spinny little engine so you may need to lower the final drive gearing? ie raies the number if that makes sense. I'm sure someone's done it with a zetec e (don't know if they altered the chassis/suspension to give more underbonnet room? so it should be possible. Nice engine the zetec se IMHO
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Old 22nd September 2016, 11:01
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Many thanks Mitchelkitman for your advice. So the main problem would be the diff ratio? Would a lower/higher ratio diff help?

Also would a carb setup be easier and more spaces under the bonnet less wiring ect as well?.

Apologies for the bombardment of questions.

Thanks

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Old 22nd September 2016, 11:57
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Depending on what you have a higher ratio diff may be needed. If it's an Escort bach axle then a diff from a 1.3 model may do the trick - I suspect try it first would be a good idea before changing. As regards engine on carbs? Beyond my knowledge I'm afraid, but I'm aware that if it has an ECU at the moment that will probably need all the signals it had in the Focus (or dummies) or it won't work.
You may find some guidance by looking on "fast Ford" type forums, where peeps have changed to newer engines in old Fords.
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Old 22nd September 2016, 12:49
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That's a great starting point many thanks for the advice.

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