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Dino 246 Builds and Discussion Da da da da daaa daa da da, ohoho Dino

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Old 9th August 2017, 18:13
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Default Classic Replicas chassis

I will look to see if I have any pictures, but I don't think I do. We're talking 2009 or so, but I'll check. I might have a few printed pictures. I'll get back. / Jon
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Old 10th August 2017, 09:19
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I love how generous enthusiasts are prepared to put themselves out to share and help others on this forum.
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Old 10th August 2017, 22:10
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Thanks Jon,
this is a fascinating topic. I know another forum member adapted Alfa 166 hubs to MGF uprights - which is handy since the Alfa 166 allows the fitment of original Dino Cromodora wheels (same 108mm x 5 PCD and same centre bore). The science of suspension geometry is a bit much for me so seeing what others have done in the past and got to work well is useful.
As for the chassis design - I think Deon/JH DGT was rather lacking in torsional stiffness despite the higher sills and tunnel. Ferrari's solution seems to have been to put in big heavy oval tubes to what is basically an unsophisticated platform chassis. So replicating the Ferrari low sills/low tunnel will yield the right look and space but be heavy and not exactly super stiff, CASCU makes exact replicas.
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Old 11th August 2017, 23:34
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Hello,
Thank you for your answer.
You can find a picture of the rear whell or my Deon. I have removed the suspension (attached picture).
I'm also interested by informations about chassis modifications because I want to implement Ford cougar engine and also modify the pedals to win place.
Thanks a lot.
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Old 11th August 2017, 23:38
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Do you know this company?
http://www.protechshocks.co.uk/400-series/
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Old 12th August 2017, 11:13
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hi all

Here's a photo of the later cr suspension they used. copy of the dino.

ian
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Old 13th August 2017, 01:33
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Hi,
Thank you
Do you have other informations?
Thanks dominique.
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Old 13th August 2017, 21:27
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Default Classic Replicas / No pictures

Sorry, all I have for pictures of early chassis/ suspension is a small (low resolution) print screen from his website circ. 2009, Not enough info other than that it's clear the chassis is completely different (and less substantial) from later offering and no discernible suspension parts. / Jon
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Old 14th August 2017, 07:40
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Sorry, all I have for pictures of early chassis/ suspension is a small (low resolution) print screen from his website circ. 2009, Not enough info other than that it's clear the chassis is completely different (and less substantial) from later offering and no discernible suspension parts. / Jon

Hi Jon
Thanks for taking the time to look for the pictures.
I might try jacking the car up onto some tall axle stands and taking some pictures from underneath.
Neil
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Old 21st August 2017, 21:15
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Default The CR copy of genuine Dino suspension

Thanks for the photo of the late CR suspension Ian. Its a bit hard to tell but it kinda looks like the mounts for the wishbones are welded to the chassis members? On the real Dino these are bolted on and can be shimmed for adjustment.

I've been toying with the idea of replicating the original design (partly because suspension geometry is beyond my maths and physics skills!) but I guess the originals were designed to take advantage of relatively squishy high profile (70) tyres when radials were a brand new concept. So unless you want to make something with 205/70/14 in HR performance level (good luck finding those now days) then an update of the geometry and wheel size and tyre profile wouldn't hurt.
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Hi

I think cr's later car was more a recreation of the dino. I agree with you that the inboard part looks welded to the chassis. And yes the real one used 'U' shaped washers to pack out the bush/wishbones.
Most kit cars used a bush that has a thread that can be screwed in or out to adjust it instead of adding or removing the 'U' shaped washers. In the case of the dino only the securing nut would need loosening to do the adjustment where as the kit wishbone would need completely dismantling.
I'm going with 16" replica cromadora wheels which allow me a larger choice of braking components. Looking at bespoke alloy uprights which should come with the right kingpin angle and inclination. I'm also copying deon front suspension. But something along the lines of a stratos rear setup.
I'm going to build my chassis in wood first to check everything works-easier to correct alter!!!
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