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Old 7th April 2012, 22:49
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Sadly pcd on bigger Triumphs is different.
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ok weller wheels ..reasonable looking steel

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Sadly pcd on bigger Triumphs is different.
Just love the Dunlop wheel, Gary was mocking up a Rudge wheels last year ??? which I think also evoked the period.

Madmark had the issues with not being able to get a decent selection of wheels to race his SD1 so tracked down some ali billet spaces from the States which offset the rover PCD to a PCD of his choice which opened up the selection of wheels he could use.

So there is a solution available from the states to use a different PCD if one needs
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ok weller wheels ..reasonable looking steel

Bugger anyone want to buy some chrome wire wheels, these look great!
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Old 8th April 2012, 08:14
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Hello,

Has anyone experiences with MGF steel(spare wheels)on Herald/soit?
As I,ve read on internet it must fit.Seems they are rare in 14 inch.
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Hi Jerome, we've met I was at Gary's when you and Dad picked your kit up. Skippy is running on MGF 15 inch wheels alloys with low profile tyres, they bolt straight on but have a 5mm spacer just for a little more clearance, regards PAT
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Just had a look at the mgf spare wheel on ebay good value but the off set looks very big! I'll see if I can find one to try on Skippy. PAT
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not a pretty wheel are they

but rover 25 are a better looking wheel they should be the same pcd?


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Hmm... that looks kinda weird I think.
We want 14 inch because it is illegal in Holland to cut some steel of the chassis. But there isn't a lot of choice in 14" inch PCD 3,75...
Spacers are also not allowed here, the track wide (?) may not change more than 2% of the original width. So w've found the Weller wheels and some other custom made wheels but those are very expensive..

The MGF wheels fit, but they don't look very nice, maybe when we change the depth of the wheel they look a bit better?

Someone better suggestions?
The original Vitesse wheels are very small and boring..
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Just love the Dunlop wheel, Gary was mocking up a Rudge wheels last year ??? which I think also evoked the period.

Madmark had the issues with not being able to get a decent selection of wheels to race his SD1 so tracked down some ali billet spaces from the States which offset the rover PCD to a PCD of his choice which opened up the selection of wheels he could use.

So there is a solution available from the states to use a different PCD if one needs
found the adaptors ebay 230620025009 These Adapters Convert the Small Triumph and Lotus Lug Bolt Pattern to accept any Standard 4 x 100 mm Rim or Alloy Wheel.
Triumph Spitfire , GT6 ,TR8 , TR7 , many Austin and Lotus cars

Triumph Spitfire, GT6, Herald, TR7, or TR8 wheels adapters. They also fit many classic Lotus sportscars too. These are brand-new in the box. They are made of 6061 Billet aluminum (Aircraft grade) and are 1 inch wide. They bolt right up to your original 3/8" or 12mm studs. What you see in the first picture is what you get. They come complete with hardened 12mm (1.50 thread) wheel studs that will accept standard 12mm aftermarket lugnuts.

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I suspect that the adapters cannot be used either...they space as well as adapt !
Those Rover wheels don't look too bad ...the slots are a bit like the rudge wheel...you could mock up a fake cap and spinner like I am playing with to make them a bit more interesting ....even a spinner mounted in the centre like a dunlop would change the whole look....

If you are struggling because you don't want to cut your chassis ....you don't have to. The bulkhead needs cutting back , but this is classed as bodywork ...we use it for convenience. You can fit a 15'' wheel with an appropriate sized tyre and it will fit without chassis cutting.....might widen your options ?
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The 4x100 adaptors would allow the fitting of Golf steels which can be found for a reasonable sum and would look quite 'Dunlop' like if sprayed satin silver and fitted with dummy spinners.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Sp...item35b20650b1

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW...item27c4fc5b4e

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https://www.europaspares.com/product...____cpds_.html

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http://www.realmengineering.com/dunl...%20wheels.html

Of course, if your vehicle inspection prohibits widening the track you're stuck with standard steels or MGF alloys.
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Think I'm going route 1 and sticking with Spitfire wheels
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Think I'm going route 1 and sticking with Spitfire wheels
That was my original plan. I had planned to fit 175/80/13's with white wall rings and dummy spinners. This would have given me a slightly larger diameter combination at 61cm than the 175/70/14's I eventually went with (60cm).

Should look pretty good but bear in mind that the wire wheel adaptors do increase the track considerably which pushes the wheels out to fill the arches nicely. You might need to add spacers to achieve the same visual effect.
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Old 9th April 2012, 10:53
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We looked back at the Weller wheels and we send some mails to order a set. There looking good and the hart of the rim is deeper than the original wheels. So the wheel arches are filled better because the edge of the wheel lies more close to the body. With some higher tires the diameter grows a bit and it looks good I think.

Thanks for all the replies! This forum is very fast and more helpful than the dutch car-forum.

Now continuing the build!
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Old 20th May 2012, 08:30
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I just looked at a Triumph Midge which is for sale in Holland.
These ,mostly stooped,projects looks like good donors for England.
Only with all V5 documents we can import them.

http://www.mobc.co.uk/page6.htm

Lots for sale and cheap,also a hind:chairs of a Reliant looks very small or small
enough for our use?

Hope of any help.
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What about the hubs that Canleys do, they can supply them blank?
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Old 27th September 2012, 15:19
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After a long, long time an huge update!
Were presenting our solutions!
First of all, we've builded our Sammio with in thought that we always can remove the body in one piece just like a Vitesse. This means a lot of work and thinking. We've placed customized Herald sills instead of the Sammio ones because they're removable and as a bonus our sills are now straight!
Another huge change in the original design is that we placed the whole body 2cm to the back, the wheels are way better centered now.

The removable body means that our floorpans are welded on to the frame. So we didn't have to make holes in the chassis.






From the beginning we didn't like the idea of the bonnet. We thought we had to make it stronger. So we developed a removable bonnet on a frame and a small 'service' bonnet inside it (like a Cobra). The bonnet is positioned with d'zus bolts.
The edge from the bonnet to the body is filled with bonding paste to fit.















When we first cut out the bootlit we made a mistake not to strengthen this part
so we needed an extra steelframe to keep it in shape
When we made the bonnet we first put in some layers of polyester.














Because we've a framework underneath the bonnet we had to change some things, we've changed the place of the alternator and made some innerwings from alloy. At the back there is lugageroom behind the seats as wel in the back.
So there is a floor and innerwings from alloy also.





We've lowered the car more than 1 inch a the back and we use lowered spitfire springs in the front.
Because of the lowering, our handbrakesystem is changed like someone of the forum did. (made a customized frame for the brake cables)

Part 1/2
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Old 27th September 2012, 15:24
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Part 2

We want to create a race look, we keep the frame insight, and we placed alloy plates behind it. It looks very cool I think. We've got a lugageroom behind the seats, so we needed seats that can lift. We've customized some Fiat Panda seatframes. Our seats can slide and lift now.
The seats are from a VW buggy.









Due to the small interior space and our lenght, we've made a removable steering wheel.



Our dashboard is made from steel and the center with the clocks in it will be form alloy.



The whole interior exists out of alloy and steel for the racing look.

The exhaust is cut of and we've replaced the dampers. We've got now 2 small exhaust pipes in the centre! There will be an alloy plate around them.



The taillights were made from PVC, the lights itselfs came from a Land Rover. The flashers come from the scrapyard, a Kia I think. We ended with a kind of Wiessmann look!







Our radiator was very bad and is replaced by a Volvo radiator. Our fan is from a Citroen BX. They're fitted in a customized frame.

We've bought a set of MGF steel wheels and it looks good!
We have an idea in making some spinners on them.



At this moment we,re bussy with the motor, its compartment and we,ve made
a beginning with sanding the body.....
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Old 27th September 2012, 15:42
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Holy cow! Thanks for the update. Lots of food for thought. I shall be taking a closer look at the pics tonight. I would have liked to weld the floor but that would cause a problem in the UK when re-registering.
I like the positioning of the boot. Expect to see it on other Sammios in the future.
Keep up the good work.
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