Geoff's 250 SWB Replica Build - Page 35

Tribute Automotive · #**681** 14th January 2015, 21:06

Rear vents now done:

And the roof vent:

We have filled in the channel that takes the Z3 windscreen rubber for two reasons, one to enable the new GRP roof/windscreen pillar covers to have hidden edges when fitted (no external metal to GRP joins as on the MX250) and secondly to visually reduce the size of the Z3 windscreen slightly. With the addition of a false period screen rubber/chrome insert bonded onto the existing glass helping to reduce the glass area even further:

hurnleft · #**682** 14th January 2015, 21:23

Very good, some lovely details.
I've been wondering how best to fit a high level brake light and the roof vent looks like the perfect place.

Bob.

GazDavies · #**683** 17th January 2015, 08:18

This is looking better and better each time I see an update!

This Z3 on eBay could be a good option if you are quick, I would be tempted myself if it wasn't a 1.9.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-BMW-Z...item418e33e751

y cymro · #**684** 19th January 2015, 21:12

This is well worth a look

http://www.automirage.co.uk/GT_Project.html

y cymro · #**685** 19th January 2015, 21:29

Cocochoux will make you a special birthday cake. It looks good in red

Mister Towed · #**686** 20th January 2015, 07:13

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Originally Posted by y cymro

This is well worth a look

http://www.automirage.co.uk/GT_Project.html

Looks very nice but, I'm guessing the budget required will be North of £30k, and, unless it's built using all brand new parts, the way I understand the vehicle registration process, it'll be stuck with a 'Q' plate that can't be transferred. Shame.

Kit 275GTB · #**687** 20th January 2015, 07:46

A fascinating blend of old and new technology but in the words of that non-pc quip "If I were going there, I would not start from here".

Scottie22 · #**688** 20th January 2015, 08:28

While it is a fantastic looking car and a brilliant achievement, it does seem to be an awful lot of work and money expended to sort of re-invent the wheel.
And as Mr Towed pointed out, the dreaded "Q" plate would l kill it stone dead for a lot of folk.

NeilF355 · #**689** 20th January 2015, 10:59

If the car was registered under section 5 (Kit Conversions) of INF26 then it would get an age related plate under the following
"If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer (or an altered chassis or bodyshell from an existing vehicle) is used with two original major components from the donor vehicle, a replacement registration number will be issued based on the age of the donor vehicle. The vehicle must have IVA, SVA or MSVA. The date of manufacture for the vehicle will be taken from the IVA, SVA or MSVA certificate."
In this way an automirage replica would avoid the dreaded Q plate.

Mister Towed · #**690** 20th January 2015, 12:42

That's interesting, but would you then be stuck with the donor age related plate or could you transfer a dateless plate onto it? After all, a modern plate format on what looks like a 50's Ferrari is going to look just as bad as a 'Q' plate.

One of the beauties of the Tribute approach is the ability to disguise the true origin of the vehicle with a dateless number.

Scottie22 · #**691** 20th January 2015, 13:41

And the other big advantage is that it does not require an IVA.

Which I would imagine is the reason for its popularity.

NeilF355 · #**692** 20th January 2015, 13:42

I don’t see why a kit car with an age related plate should be treated in any different way to any other car.

You should be able to transfer a cherished number plate to the vehicle in the same way as any other car, providing of course that it does not make the car look younger than it actually was.
So a dateless plate should be easy to transfer, and a worthwhile change as I agree that a classic replica should have an old number plate on it.

Scottie22 · #**693** 20th January 2015, 15:30

As far as I understood the system, an age related plate is treated in a similar way to a Q plate, in that it is non-transferable and remains with the vehicle for as long as that vehicle remains on the books.

Mister Towed · #**694** 20th January 2015, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottie22

As far as I understood the system, an age related plate is treated in a similar way to a Q plate, in that it is non-transferable and remains with the vehicle for as long as that vehicle remains on the books.

Sadly, that's the way I understood it too.

JG · #**695** 20th January 2015, 20:47

Wouldn't bother me one iotta

froggyman · #**696** 20th January 2015, 21:42

I think you can put a number on a car with an age related plate, however the age related plate issued cannot be transferred to another vehicle.

8 Valve Ed · #**697** 20th January 2015, 22:34

According to the VSCC, age related 'issued' and 'recovered' registration numbers are not transferable nor can they be changed.

Quite an interesting link. (item 12 covers this)

http://www.vscc.co.uk/vsccMedia/2729.pdf

froggyman · #**698** 21st January 2015, 10:02

Item 12 Deals with the transfer of the age related plate.
It states they are not transferable but does not say they can't be changed.

8 Valve Ed · #**699** 21st January 2015, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by froggyman

Item 12 Deals with the transfer of the age related plate.
It states they are not transferable but does not say they can't be changed.

Accepted, but if they can't be changed why the rigmarole to establish the original number, why not the opportunity to specify a known preferred available number? Reading the entire document it *seems* that once a number has been allocated it's cast in stone.

Dealing with DVLA seems to be a black art, because they don't seem to publish the full wording of the regulations. For example, the 10 year old rule as an exemption from the IVA. I keep being told it only applies to imports, yet I can't find that stipulation in any DVLA document. They clearly state that kit cars which are older than 10 years are exempt. It does not state that only applies to imports. So they seem to leave themselves a lot of discretion.

Tribute Automotive · #**700** 25th January 2015, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilF355

If the car was registered under section 5 (Kit Conversions) of INF26 then it would get an age related plate under the following
"If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer (or an altered chassis or bodyshell from an existing vehicle) is used with two original major components from the donor vehicle, a replacement registration number will be issued based on the age of the donor vehicle. The vehicle must have IVA, SVA or MSVA. The date of manufacture for the vehicle will be taken from the IVA, SVA or MSVA certificate."
In this way an automirage replica would avoid the dreaded Q plate.

What was the price for the Automirage kit Neil? You did tell me at Donnington but can't remember.