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Old 13th December 2011, 20:15
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Default G46 V8 Mk1

Santa came early to Charlie & I, little bit disappointed it was not gift wrapped and tied with a Christmas bow.

Santa's sleigh was heavily disguised as a car trailer and the reindeer as a diesel pick up! & Santa as Gary's mate John, who eat all the pies but not the whisky.

Many thanks Gary garage full of bits and two puzzled men but I suppose that is only to be expected as we are the first to build the kit.

Will post some photos of the engine, chassis, floor pan etc once Charlie works out how to up load.

Can anyone advise on how to insert photos within the script

Gary I will call you before the weekend just to get a few reference points and then we are away.
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Old 13th December 2011, 21:43
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Hi guys
There is a early post that shows you - but basically register with photobucket
and then upload pics - click on the img button and paste into the post you are writing

Good luck on the build we are all interested in your progress
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Old 14th December 2011, 18:59
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Welcome to the EEC. That's the eccentric engineers' club.

Looking forward to seeing some pics of your build, is it a Rover V8 conversion on the SE5 chassis or something bespoke?
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Old 14th December 2011, 20:14
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been following the forum for sometime, love your flying helmet, I am honoured to accept your invitation to the EEC.

Se5a chassis I repaired last year and then abandoned the idea after of rebuilding the scimitar after discovering the Sammio web site and speaking to Gary.

Rover V8 3.5L engine that I rebuilt some years ago and used in a Hawk 289, nice cam, light flywheel 4 barrel carb should be ample for the G46.

Will post some pics at the weekend
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Old 14th December 2011, 21:07
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Nice one. Should be quite the flying machine with the 3.5 V8. After all, it's probably about half the weight of my cast iron straight 6 with at least 50% more power.

At least the back end shouldn't break away in the wet too much...
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Old 15th December 2011, 13:36
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OK Ladies an Gents here are the first officially approved photos of the G46 V8 Mk1 build:.....still in its early days.

http://photobucket.com/g46v8mk1
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Old 15th December 2011, 16:50
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What's that?



Independant suspension on the back end you say.

No no. No no no no no. Those underpinnings look far too new-fangled.

Swing axles is the way forward!

Or sideways - forward - sideways the other way - backwards - stop when you wanted to go forward...
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Old 27th December 2011, 12:41
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i had a scimitar gte 5a with a rover v8 went really well,i was pleased with it ,mind the lad i had it off had a chevy v8 with all the bits nitrous etc ran 10's 1/4 mile that was a tad faster
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Old 27th December 2011, 17:19
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A few mates ran the 350 (small block) Chevy engine in cobras when I was running the Rover 3.5 in my Hawk, the Hawk was faster in initial acceleration only to be then overtaken by the 350's but I always out braked them into roundabouts and first away!

Talking of the heavy 350 chevy I have just had to move the old Essex engine in the garage that came out of the Se5, the Rover 3.5 has to be 50kg plus lighter than that, what with that and the lighter body, no roof, no glass, internal furnishings! the G46 V8 Mk1 is going to have a sweet unstressed power to weight ratio.

Looking to locate the body on the chassis tomorrow every "G Clamp" I have is currently in use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now where did I leave those sky hooks!

Will post a photo with the body temp located if we get that far
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Old 28th December 2011, 16:41
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Old 28th December 2011, 17:03
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More pics please and I PM'd you earlier
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Old 28th December 2011, 17:10
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Garry & all

last post was a tester to see if we could add pictures, it works. Main body located, seemed to go well a lot more fettling before final fix, pure enjoyment rear goal posts and cills clamped into dims you have me, had to take top corners off but fits as snug as a bug in a rug. lots of measuring standing back having a look up a bit down a bit and so on.



See why you had a problem with final dims not be able to take the body off, we are lifting on and off and using all the photos we took at your workshop as a guide, we will take dims and records for reference. It may not be the way every one attacks it but it may be helpfull



This one shows the front bulk head I think we will cut up the "coffee table frame" and insert differently? we may also make the footwells wider in the square aperture with ply formers and move the pedal box over as we need to chop out the tunnel for the exhausts on the V8 and it's always cramped on Se5's when they insert the V8 plenty of room in the G46 wing bulkhead for this.



looking back at the bulk head ply templates will equalise both sides and secure the cills, again we have the luxury you did not have when building the prototype, everything open and nothing in the way. The body was located using the vertical centre line of the rear wheels and rear wheel arches.



will have to cut a little more off the up stands at the front



Under the bonnet test fitted long way off fitting but all looks good for clearance on the V8 nice detail have the cut line on the mould that will help when we come to match the bonnet line to the bulk head, but with a bit of felting should all work ok. Mounting and making the brackets for the forward hinging bonnet will be a challenge but there is good access under the car to take dimension and I suspect we will be coming to take more measurements before then.

So very pleased with today a long long way to go, in a way I am glad it is not a kit with instructions that just bolts on, we are all using heads which makes it all the more satisfying when you stand back and see what we have achieved.
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THANK YOU FOR POSTING THOSE PICS....

Quite exciting to see one going together .....I am so chuffed you guys are doing the first one , number 2 , you know what I mean ! I felt that you 'got it' when you visited and your passion was obvious...I have some tweaking to do with these kits and watching your way of building will be very useful...
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I am planning on going up there to see it.

I might take the TVR if you want any comparative photos. Let me know what shots you want.
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Old 30th December 2011, 19:23
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incidentally,what 'box are you using?the gear box was a little far back for my liking in my scim' but then it did have the engine mounted well back and the bulkhead cut too mine was a LT77
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It's the LT77, our engine will also be mounted further back, but what's another little bit of cutting! will have to cut bulk heads both sides to get the headers in .

Purchase some 350i TVR headers off e-bay this week (pre going forwards type) I may position the slave engine ( no crank or pistons, bracketing already done) and in the chassis pop the heads on and see if they work

The beauty of the Sammio concept is that I can position seat further back as well, I also acquired a short remote gear change along the way which I have the option to use as well.
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Just come in from an afternoon in the garage wanted to see what the car looked liked with the arches filled out with wider wheels, not suggesting we use the revolutions wring decade, but it gives a good indication where a 15" 245 will sit the car will be a lot lower with engine and gear box in place and with shorter coil overs.





Gary, secured the front left cills by using metal angle straps cut and bent to match and self tapped into position see drivers side photo



I also made cardboard templates and made the inner arch floor, drop down and vertical filler on the passenger side from 10mm ply. The bottom plates are glued and screwed to the straps and cill plates under the doors, the vertical wing filler, I need to glue into position (will I get away with car filler) and then glass over them to give them an element of protection and for firming up the body.



One result is that with all the head scratching I can use the card board templates mirror image for the other side with very little alteration.

My wife came to find me this afternoon, she opened the garage door and said are you happy in here or just trying to get away from us indoors, no answer to that really, women! they just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know what you mean! Soon I will be doing the same as you with my Sammio body. Can't wait.
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My favourite part is that they say we are "playing with cars" and therefore it idoes not constitute it self as work. Which means when we come in we are not tired and we are ready to do their bidding.

Ok my moans over - dont tell her i said that
We are all friends here aren't we?
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