Mick O'Malley's Moss Monaco - Page 25

Mick O'Malley · #**481** 19th February 2021, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed

I got one jammed under a Vulcan bomber once.

Lucky you didn't knock the Blue Steel off its shackles...

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed

An old Sherpa would definitely work as a a base for a vintage car.

See Sherpley for details

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed

It's just a real shame that this one has a Q plate.

If I go for it, I believe it's possible that an impassioned plea that it's a re-body rather than a Kit Car could fall on sympathetic DVLA ears. It would then be an S or T suffix eligible for black plates. Worth a try.

Regards, Mick

Dpaz · #**482** 19th February 2021, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley

Lucky you didn't knock the Blue Steel off its shackles...

See Sherpley for details

If I go for it, I believe it's possible that an impassioned plea that it's a re-body rather than a Kit Car could fall on sympathetic DVLA ears. It would then be an S or T suffix eligible for black plates. Worth a try.

Regards, Mick

Go for it Mick, you know you want to. Dpaz

paul_n · #**483** 19th February 2021, 21:56

Mick

I would have though this was a better buy ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NG-KIT-CA...53.m1438.l2649

They are nice and tall and imposing as not as dainty as the MG replica's ?

Unless you really want something as big as the Sherpa ? it seems a huge contrast to the Moss ?

You deal realise the Sherpa is the best part of 15ft long !

Paul

Mick O'Malley · #**484** 20th February 2021, 06:37

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Originally Posted by paul_n

Mick

I would have though this was a better buy?

They are nice and tall and imposing, not as dainty as the MG replicas?

Unless you really want something as big as the Sherpa? it seems a huge contrast to the Moss?

You do realise the Sherpa is the best part of 15ft long!

Paul

As it's on the donor car's V5 it would require SVA, so not a contender for my next project.

It's the size and road presence of the Sherpa project that appeal to me. Apart from three Dutton Sierras, my multitude of so-say Kit Cars have all been dinky two seaters: been there, done that, time to move on. I can always cut a hole in the back wall of the cave for the dumb irons if the length proves problematic...

Regards, Mick

Dpaz · #**485** 20th February 2021, 13:52

MY last nights reply has disappeared, These were an evocation of the Aston Martin Ulster IIRC. The front suspension looks like Marina. A single carb and exhaust, Marina. Wheels 13" Marina, so probably an NG chassis as you said Mick SVA. No interest yet, a little suspicious maybe? I love the idea of the Sherpa but on a Q plate and 1800cc engine? A touch underpowered? But with a big straight 6, lovely. Go for it!

Mitchelkitman · #**486** 20th February 2021, 14:19

As stated above, it looks to be Marina suspension. I suspect the seller received it in part-exchange, free or whatever, as they don't seem to know much about it. Would have been quite nice in its day, and if registered.

paul_n · #**487** 20th February 2021, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Dpaz

I love the idea of the Sherpa but on a Q plate and 1800cc engine? A touch underpowered? But with a big straight 6, lovely. Go for it!

It's worse than that Jim .......

It's a low compression 1700 cc !

However it was also available in 2000 cc again a low compression unit if in a Sherpa they are both 8:1 and I think the only difference between them is the length of the con rods but cannot be sure.

They appeared in several guises a TC would help.

Oddly they are considered a good swap for the MGB 1800cc [ where they were supposed to go in the first place ! ] as they are lighter and with the LT77 5speed box [ mine has that ] are again lighter and better geared than the 4 speed + O/D..

https://www.mginfo.co.uk/upgrades4mg...eries_mgb.html

Still from what I understand of a lightened Sherpa car plenty of power !

Paul

MartinClan · #**488** 20th February 2021, 19:42

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Originally Posted by Mitchelkitman

As stated above, it looks to be Marina suspension. I suspect the seller received it in part-exchange, free or whatever, as they don't seem to know much about it. Would have been quite nice in its day, and if registered.

I concour that it seems to be Marina based. Interesting that the tie bars are mounted back to front. I am not sure how sound that is! They are smallish in section, about 12mm, and I guess the most stress on them is when braking hard when, on the Marina, they would be in tension. Still, I don't suppose the NG weighs much.

Cheers, Robin

paul_n · #**489** 20th February 2021, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley

As it's on the donor car's V5 it would require SVA, so not a contender for my next project.
Regards, Mick

Bit of a bummer that as it was the sort of car I was looking for before my Sherpa side road.

Would that depend on what it said on the MOT ?

If it was not listed as a MGB can you still ask for it to be changed on the V5 to reflect it historically being treated differently ?

Paul

jcole1960 · #**490** 22nd February 2021, 12:54

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Originally Posted by MartinClan

I concour that it seems to be Marina based. Interesting that the tie bars are mounted back to front. I am not sure how sound that is! They are smallish in section, about 12mm, and I guess the most stress on them is when braking hard when, on the Marina, they would be in tension. Still, I don't suppose the NG weighs much.

Cheers, Robin

The Teal Bugatti also used the same front suspension arrangement, with the tie bars to the rear

Dpaz · #**491** 22nd February 2021, 18:27

NG not sold. Odd, maybe the NG club know why.

Dpaz · #**492** 22nd February 2021, 20:16

Did you get the Sherpa?

Lucky@LeMans · #**493** 22nd February 2021, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Dpaz

NG not sold. Odd, maybe the NG club know why.

It needed a fair bit of work but more importantly wasn't registered correctly. This is a traditional kit with a new chassis, not a rebody, so IVA would be required.

paul_n · #**494** 22nd February 2021, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Lucky@LeMans

It needed a fair bit of work but more importantly wasn't registered correctly. This is a traditional kit with a new chassis, not a rebody, so IVA would be required.

You would have assumed there was someone out there who was not aware it needed to go through the IVA and would have bid on it as it looked a fair car for the money ?

Paul

paul_n · #**495** 22nd February 2021, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Dpaz

Did you get the Sherpa?

Was that to much for what was there ?

Mick O'Malley · #**496** 23rd February 2021, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Dpaz

Did you get the Sherpa?

After ten days of deliberation and discussion I decided yesterday to not bid. I ran the surveyor's tape over the cave and realised that, due to its width, I would only be able to work on a quarter of it at a time, unless it was wheeled right out onto my daughter's lawn, not a popular option. I also realised that, to turn it around for various necessary cave only fettling operations, that it would need to be pushed right out into the road due to its size. On balance I feel that I made the correct decision. Looking at the bidding history I would have won it with my envisaged last seconds £2,110.

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Was that too much for what was there?

I don't think so, being registered and having been on the road IMO it was a good two grand's worth.

Regards, Mick

Dpaz · #**497** 23rd February 2021, 22:13

Me too, I was tempted but too many toys to play with already.