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Old 22nd August 2015, 10:47
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Default DVLA info registering a re body kit

so you need to register you new kit car a few bits that could help you from my experience with the DVLA.
firstly dealing with them will cause you to say feck feck feck a lot trying to get info out of them is hard work.
keep all your receipts and send them
Take photos when you get the donor car showing the number plate on the car, start of the build in between and after the build showing the plates fitted on your new car. The car dose not need to be ready to go on the road to take the photos it could be stood with the panels hung on it just looking ready.
you need to do a built up vehicle report search Built up vehicle inspection report (V627/1 ... - Gov.UK.
DVLA direct dial number for kits and rebuilds is 01792786551 fax 01792782381.
you can ask them to deal with you by email it helps sending photos etc you just need to agree to a consent form for them to send info by email.
The donor car will need to be insured under the name of the kit you are building;
it will also need a current m.o.t as the car stated on the V5 not as the kit make sure it has a good few months to run registering a kit could take 3 months. if the m.o.t runs out they will reject it and you will need a new m.o.t and a long delay.
the normal 3 forms of ID will need to go with your application.
although it seems a long way to do things if your build the car on a cat D get the log book first then start the application for the kit. A cat C will not need a vic check that was the old car its now a kit car. For a cat c if you don't have the V5 in your name you will need to send a check for the road tax.

so send receipts for the kit purchase and the original car.
loads of photos before mid and after
insurance & ID 3 types & current m.o.t
check for the road tax
built up vehicle report
I also do a covering letter just the basics what you have dune.
I will have missed something and its only my experience so don't shoot the messenger but if it helps and speeds things up for you good luck.

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Old 30th August 2015, 10:13
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Could you please report the link to the DVLA website, as the link doesn't work. Thanks Mike
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Old 30th August 2015, 10:20
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put this in your google search it will bring up the link for you
Built up vehicle inspection report (V627/1 ... - Gov.UK

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I have noticed a number of rebodies on ebay still registered as the donor, The latest is an NG TA registered as an MGB that the seller says has been owned by a policeman and there has never been a problem MOT or registering it. What is the situation if ,say, an ANPR camera policeman asks ' Why is this MGB obviously not an MGB. Or why does this Spitfire look like an MGTF?'
Is there a 'Grandfather rights' thing on older cars, or are there actually a lot of people driving around in illegal and uninsured cars. BTW the NG can't be a body swap as it has a new chassis. Is it a big job to re register an already converted car once it has been bought?
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I can only speak from experience but I once bought a jago jeep complete and running but know log book and I was told there was no chance at all of ever getting to pass a IVA and ended up breaking it. there will be loads of cars not correctly registered but its a can of worms. what is it insured as what it is on the log book say ford escort or a jago kit if you had a bump would they pay out or would your insurance be invalid. My insurance asked is it correctly registered, the mot would not stand on there system it will say its a different car so how can they test it they should refuse it unless he's a mate don't believe all your told from what I here the IVA is a bugger to get through that's why rebodys are catching on. buying an older kit not correctly registered is a no for me unless you are prepared to go for a IVA
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Old 8th September 2015, 10:48
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Hi Andy, I am too old too try and put a car through IVA. I spent a lot of my working life kicking against the pricks , now I don't bother. I know a person who could get you an MOT on anything and swears nobody bothers with IVA 'Just keep it as it is, no bother' Yea right! There was a Moss with a new chassis that the seller claimed could be reregistered as a rebody. I think he got a lot of feedback because ,next thing 'No paperwork spares only'. If a car could easily be reregistered it would make sense to do it before selling.
BTW not many engine gearbox and back axle less Duttons for sale with no V5 at the moment.
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By the way , The NG TA / MGBGT seems to have been removed. Hmmm
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By the way , The NG TA / MGBGT seems to have been removed. Hmmm
No it hasn't ! I am watching it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1618533775...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The policeman bit has been removed.

I asked the Vendor what is shown on the V5 and where :-

noted as a body change many years ago!!

is noted , also what does the MOT say it is .....

no reply yet ........

not holding my breath

It was bought off Ebay for £2k in Sept and now for sale for £3.5k was dropped to £3k just before expiration of last classified ad.

As I understand it if there are notes at the bottom of the V5 that say body change and can be dated to pre-1998 then that is ok you can just ask the DVLA to correct the details to NG TA.

However if there is no dated proof it was on the road before 1998 then BIVA it is .

Of course as a buyer you are not allowed to fill in a V888 and pay for the vehicle details which seems all wrong to me as you are at the mercy of the seller.

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he is on the back of the royal oak pub in Doncaster dn14 7na. looks like a dealer he has got some dam nice cars.
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he is on the back of the royal oak pub in Doncaster dn14 7na. looks like a dealer he has got some dam nice cars.
Sorry don't mean to hijack your thread , I know where he is.

What concerns me is he is trying to sell cars he knows have wrong V5 's , otherwise why would he tell you in the advert it is an MGB Coupe and the stuff about the body change ?

He has yet to answer my query , doubt he every will.

So if I meet him face to face do you think he will offer to sort out the V5 to get a sale ?

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no prob with the thread its a open forum, if he is a dealer and says its correctly registered with a mot then you should have a come back if it is not. what you need is someone near on to check it out if he dose not give you the answers. I would call him to ask some people dont like to give out to much information why I dont no if he is trying to sell.
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Andy

No problem I am not to far away myself and shall visit with the wife in due course.

Although a phone call maybe in order to save me a wasted journey.

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Paul
Have checked the DVLA details for reg no GMC 714J and it comes up with "GREEN, 1974 MG B GT COUPE" from which I presume the DVLA know nothing about the conversion to an NG replica.
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Old 19th October 2015, 17:42
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Have checked the DVLA details for reg no GMC 714J and it comes up with "GREEN, 1974 MG B GT COUPE" from which I presume the DVLA know nothing about the conversion to an NG replica.
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Neil

Now I am impressed , yes really ,as I could not find anything it would accept as a Manufacturer.

Paul

ps thanks for looking
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Old 20th October 2015, 09:57
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I find Autotrader's website http://www.autotrader.co.uk/vehiclecheck very helpful.
It does occasionally throw up an error but I checked using details of my cars and it works for them.
I then confirm using the DVLA's official site https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
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It's quite shocking. That car does not use the MGB "chassis" - how can it? It's as illegal as a cut-and-shut Vauxhall Corsa yet it is happily advertised for sale. It should have had a Q plate when it was put together (all you needed then was an MOT and a cursory visit from a local inspector). To register it now would be nigh-on impossible.

That vehicle is only good for spares. The V5 needs to be submitted as "scrapped" and those number plates binned.

Can you tell that this sort of thing makes me cross?
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Hi all

Well I have just spoke to ' George ' until the point he put the phone down on me !

He claims that because he has a letter from the DVLA saying the car was rebodied in 1994 that it is perfectly legal to sell it with an incorrect V5.

When asked if he was interested in get the V5 corrected he claimed he was a bona fide classic car seller and would not sell anything illegal said this once again in an even louder voice and then said he was personally insulted and put the phone down on me !

Some people......

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I find Autotrader's website http://www.autotrader.co.uk/vehiclecheck very helpful.
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Just tried to check out a car on the autotrader website today and it looks like they have changed their search so that it doesn't display as much information. It's now a waste of time using it!

Clearly I've been using their free facility too much
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Just tried to check out a car on the autotrader website today and it looks like they have changed their search so that it doesn't display as much information. It's now a waste of time using it!

Clearly I've been using their free facility too much
Hmmm, I would have thought the use of that was to give buyers confidence in the cars being sold through Auto Trader, not hide things from sellers, so to me that says by making it less transparent, Auto Trader condones dodgy sellers.

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Hi all

This site can give some useful information [ when it is working !]

https://mot-history.net/

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