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Old 4th February 2017, 13:32
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What chassis is this body designed to fit?
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Old 4th February 2017, 14:47
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What chassis is this body designed to fit?

Triumph Herald or Vitesse,

May fit other chassis with the sameish wheelbase with some tweaks so I am told.
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Old 4th February 2017, 15:28
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I made this body wider for a few reasons , but one was so it is open to being fitted to alternative chassis , maybe , at a later date ...I am purely concentrating on the Triumph range at present as I want the car , primarily , to fit within the Classic Car and re-body categories ideally , retaining its Classic status etc...

But ....It may be of interest , that with an approx 3'' stretch on the rear of the bonnet and a lengthening of the lower wing section on the body , the width dimensions allow this to fit onto a Locost chassis .
I have one here and , with a repositioning of the cockpit framework , slightly , to get the seating position changed , the chassis would go under one of my bodies ......
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Old 7th February 2017, 20:57
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SOME UPDATES AS WE NEAR THE TASK OF PUTTING THE PRIMER ON ....

I have had an issue with photobucket and tinypics for some reason , so you will need to click on the links to view my pics - sorry !

We are hoping to prime the buck this weekend.

Glan has started to go round the body doing some final tweaks ...

Bonnet line is being straightened up ...the bonnet is going to have returned edges and not a naked edge like my previous example has ...


https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/02/07/ff.jpg


Part of paint prep. is the re-discovering of the doors and shuts . These popped out quite easily as Glan had used 3mm hardboard gap formers that he had waxed , so the doors released pretty well ..we had a slight breakout on the front edge that needs a fix , the passenger one popped out nearly perfect ...

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/02/07/fff.jpg

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This pic shows the shut area and the nice deep cill , or half door feature ...The shuts will be squared up and moulded as show with the excess and then trimmed back afterwards ...

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images...2/07/fffff.jpg

This pic gives an idea of the door in relation to the body .. The doors were made as a box initially to create the shuts . Now Glan has to step the rear inner edge back a couple of inches to give us a door that not only will open , but has room for a latch mechanism . As with the moulding of the bodies , these will be moulded oversize , in relation to internal depth and then trimmed back afterwards . The mould will be marked with a trim line .

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images.../07/ffffff.jpg

The final pic today shows my little aluminium template that we are using to create the little platform for the screenpost .

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Old 7th February 2017, 22:23
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Just testing...

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Old 8th February 2017, 00:09
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Very neat! Well done..
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Old 8th February 2017, 07:20
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Looking very good so far. I like the depth of the doors. Should make them feel very sturdy.

Nice detail down the side with that sculpted cut out too.

Dave
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Looks like a winner Gary, let me finish my first one before I get carried away though.. pops
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Old 10th February 2017, 12:39
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Gary,
Thanks for the detailed info concerning donor chassis. I was hoping to utilize a miata, however, the track being 6 & 8" wider presents a dilemma.
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Thanks for the detailed info concerning donor chassis. I was hoping to utilize a miata, however, the track being 6 & 8" wider presents a dilemma.
Are you in the U.S. JD? If so, from our side of the pond it appears that you have some very relaxed laws governing home-built cars (depending on which State, maybe?).

Have you considered contacting a Hot Rod chassis builder and getting a quote for a purpose built spaceframe/tube chassis with the correct wheelbase and track for Gary's fibreglass body?

From experience it's a relatively straightforward process bonding the body onto a subframe rather than the remains of a donor body, and mine's been on the road for nearly four years with no issues.

By way of a bonus, you'd be able to specify your engine, transmission, axles etc. at the design stage and would end up with a car that drives just the way you like it.

Just a thought.
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Lots of Triumph Spitfires available in the US, would imagine it would be a much cheaper starting place.
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Lots of Triumph Spitfires available in the US, would imagine it would be a much cheaper starting place.
It would be if the Spitfire wasn't 8'' too short on its wheelbase ....

Today we have been mostly sweeping down the floors and walls and hoovering the remains of 38 tins of filler dust from in and around the plug ...

We have sheeted down the benches etc. and created a polythene 'spray booth'
Primer is going on the shell on Sunday afternoon .


As a side note ...further to a chat with my engineer friend , as well as suggesting the engine and gearbox can be moved 8'' backwards to improve seating position and driveability etc. I am now going to be offering 8'' extended remote shifters for a builder not wanting to disturb the original layout.
These will be exchange only and price to follow , when he's done one !!

As well as extending the shift tube , the aluminium casing will have a 8'' milled extender section inserted which will be fully welded and a plate fitted underneath that will be welded and bolted using countersunk machine screws ...the intention being that they won't break !!
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Sorry must have misread, what chassis is it based on?
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Sorry must have misread, what chassis is it based on?
Triumph Herald or Vitesse ... 91'' wheelbase
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Think this is going to be a cracker Gary Can't wait to see the finished article.

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Looking good Gary,

Looking forward to seeing this in colour.
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That's the high build primer on ....It's brilliant to see the car all in one colour , now I can't wait to see the curves highlighted with a shine .... (I'm using an alternative image hosting site at the moment , if you click on thumbnail , it will enlarge it )






Tomorrow young Glanville will be sanding that back ..then we will make a decision on putting extra primer on or putting the top coat on ....Depending upon 'breakthrough's' in the primer and the availability of the gloss top coat Durabuild , which is imported from the States and doesn't appear to be available from any of the suppliers at the moment ...Our best option is ''about 3 weeks'' for the black top coat , so plan B may be to either add extra primer and/or polish that to a gloss ......

Should have an answer by lunchtime tomorrow ....

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Are you going to be posting about making the mold?
Would be very interesting and helpful.
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Old 12th February 2017, 17:16
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Are you going to be posting about making the mold?
Would be very interesting and helpful.
That's up to Glanville ...whether he wants to share his secrets !!

Mould making is fairly straightforward if you have made anything in fibreglass before , in principle ..if you understand the release properties of various materials etc...and working out flanging is mostly common sense , when it comes to working out how to seperate a mould without trapping ....Having said that though , I'm no expert , I have laboured on a few jobs and picked up an understanding of it by glassing bodies on to floorpans , glassing wood in etc. and making items , but I still leave it to the experts as I still feel I need guidance .......Gearbox tunnels , dashboards , battery boxes etc etc. is the level I feel comfortable at ....

The best way to learn it , isn't really on the internet , it's by working alongside someone who knows what they are doing ...


Saturday morning workshop classes Glan ??
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