SVA build points

[limpabit]

Hi Ken.

I think you have to have the chassis number on the chassis itself (the steel structure if the chassis is made from stell).

Not sure about bonding it. Mines welded on from Marlin.

[fideel109]

I'v hadthe same problem, I took a water hose, I cut it through and put it over the wheelarch , This was no problem for the SVA man

[kenmorton]

Is there any minimum size for the characters in the VIN?
I have just stamped mine with a 3mm punch set but they don't look very big.

[kenmorton]

Spoke to SVA today - no limit to size as long as its legible. Its also o.k. to have a plate machined up and pop riveted on.

[peterux]

This guy seems to have had a nightmare of an SVA test.

Clearly with the Speedo broken it was obviously a fail, but they also failed his rear reflectors because of their edge radius!

http://www.struck-out.co.uk/index.ph...id=68&Itemid=9

I guess they could cause an injury, as you reverse into someone!
Unbelievable!

[madolddog]

Hi all. Without feeling a proper twit could some kind soul please enlighten me to all the mentions of radii etc for SVA as the last kit I constructed was 'pre' SVA so haven't a clue what is actually being discussed, plus do all auto manufacturers have to comply to these type of regs or is it just the poor kit car builder? Thanks in advance for opening my mind!

[Patrick]

The basic rule is anything that can contact some one or something on the outside of the car must have a minimum radius of .25mm - so lights, bolts, bodywork etc. all need a radius on them or something to cover them up.

For the 7 type cars such as the Sportster that means every bolt / nut on the front suspension needs SVA friendly plastic caps on them (cbs sells them).

My reflectors have a hard edge so I'm going to have to sand them down.

[madolddog]

Thank you Patrick for the explanations, which I now understand as 'rough edges' re radius term. Strange don't you think regarding the nut covers - do mainstream producers such as GM or Ford use them on the models they produce? I don't think so. Is it only such kits with exposed suspension components or all kits?

[Patrick]

Production cars have to be type approved so one model is tested and approved which then covers the whole production run - cost £250,000 per car I believe so I suspect there may be some jiggling of the rules - however most newer cars tend to have everything rounded off anyway. This is part of the reason for SVA as kit manufactures just don't have the budget for type approval and as soon as a builder digresses from the original the type approval doesn't count for that one!

With regards to nut covers and other radius's - this only applies where parts can come into contact easily with people. They've got a knee sized metal sphere used to determine if a radius falls within rules.

Exhausts that stick out past the bodywork need a radius on them too...

Sometimes it does get a bit silly on 7 type cars - if some ones head is that far into the moving parts of the car a scratch of a sharp edge is going to be the least of their worries! On the other hand people will sue or claim compensation for the smallest things these days.

[madolddog]

Hi Patrick, Thanks again for the info. Sounds like SVA is similar to Health & Safety at Work where some rules make perfect sense and others are totally unnecessary. As said if someone is that close their are going to have bigger worries than scratches .lol:-)

[JG]

Update for this thread.

Madabout now has an SVA Knowledgebase section which has many Q&A style facts about SVA

Check over there, on your left near the top for the 'SVA Knowledgebase' menu.

Will keep adding to it (especially with IVA coming) but if you see any errors or see any areas not covered please let me know in this thread.

Many thanks, John

Madabout-Kitcars.com

[Patrick]

Nice one John thanks

[madoldbugger]

John, I may have missed this being in China, what is 'IVA'? And when is it coming? :-(

[JG]

Hi, IVA stands for Individual Vehicle Assessment which is the name given to the replacement test for SVA due to come into force in the Spring of 2009. SVA the sequel if you will.

As far as I know its in the consultation faze but from looking at a draft document it doesn't look like it will be much to worry about.

I'll add some Q&A style facts to the SVA Knowledge base as and when information comes through.

Cheers, John

[AndyGT]

Hi there, I am on the fetal stage of my 7esque project and imagine that by the time it is my "screaming baby" it will be after the 2009 so more than likely she will be needing IVA!

My concerns of the project are actually from the diff I am using. When I was using my mkII escort as a "runabout" I fitted an ATB quaife diff (which has been fun using it on the odd autotest! ). When I took the car for mot's I told the MOT tester it had a LSD and he never checked the balance on the rear brakes but tested them together. I was told it would damage the diff if he did. Anyway, if I use this axle in the 7 how can the tester for SVA/IVA check the balance of the brakes? Or is the balance test breaking diffs just a line?

Thanks in advance
Andy

[kenmorton]

Hi Andy,
I have a Quaife L.S.D. as well and told the inspector about it but no problems with S.V.A.

[AndyGT]

Thanks for the reply.
So do they not test the rear brake balance or is it OK with the ATB diff?
Regards

[kenmorton]

Can't remember sorry.

[alvin]

vin plates ; theres no reg says u only have to hve one!
i put several all identical on mine al>

[alvin]

No!!!!
With Lsd The Rear Must Be Tested Together It Blew My Lsd (it Shdn't Have ... Testing Them Separately).. Yes Talk To The Tester Tell Them You Have Limited .. Note Limited The Meaning Slip Diff And If They Have Half A Brain Insist They Test Them Together!!!!
Nice Thread Al>