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Old 18th December 2013, 16:35
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I like the look and finish on the miglia but looking around for a donor there is not a lot about, so my question is can a spitfire chassis be used?
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Old 18th December 2013, 20:00
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Hi

I like the look and finish on the miglia but looking around for a donor there is not a lot about, so my question is can a spitfire chassis be used?
Good evening We are now making bodys to Fit the spitfire now. Working doors plus bonnet . Give me an pm and i will help.

Regards Mike
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Old 18th December 2013, 22:15
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Welcome to the forum Swifty.
Your enquiry has come at just the right time as I believe the Miglia boys are literally just about to do a Spitfire based version.
I look forward to seeing how well the Miglia proportions work on the shorter wheelbase.
The Cordite / Pilot works well enough , so I am sure it will work equally as well.
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Old 18th December 2013, 22:52
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So the spitfire has a shorter wheel base, by how much?
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Old 19th December 2013, 07:45
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about 200mm I think.
It will be crucial to the proportions whereabouts the car is shortened.
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Old 19th December 2013, 10:21
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mike
let me know how your going to do the spitfire body andwhen?
thanks clive
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Old 19th December 2013, 19:30
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Hi Clive we are taking orders already, first body will be going out the door in Febuary. I will sort something out with you as you have already bought a Miglia speedster. Happy Christmas
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Old 19th December 2013, 20:39
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I believe that the Herald wheelbase is approx. 91ins. In view of the fact that these cars are getting harder to find has a more modern option every been considered? I'm looking to start a project in the new year and I have been considering 3 options. The Miglia being one of them.
From my research I have been drawn to the MX5. Many available good donors at reasonable money. Wheelbase just over 89ins. Is this a possible option to consider. Good engine, gearbox and handling. Body can be totally removed leaving a rolling frame. If a space frame was designed to go around it and the body can go onto this. No IVA, as this will be classed as a re body, on current regulations. This could be a pretty interesting machine.
Your comments, suggestions, opinions on this will be appreciated.
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Old 19th December 2013, 20:57
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unfortunately the mx5 "backbone" isn't a chassis - and as such the VIN is attached to the monocoque bodyshell so it wouldn't be a rebody.

the Reliant SS1 however.....
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Old 19th December 2013, 21:01
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Good Evening,

Well mx5 s always going to be a obvious choice for a donor for move kit cars, and when i get bored one day i will also build a new car based on an mx5.

The problem is with removing the mx5 body you are left with two sub frames and
a ladder link section between the front and back with the prop shaft.

This is not a chassis, so making your own frame and fitting a grp body would need an iva test. A nice thought and would be a nice way to go with the Miglia range.
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Hi Mike
I'm assuming the 'backbone' you get out of the MX isn't enough to class as a chassis, so using the point system:
• chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
• suspension = 2 points
• axles = 2 points
• transmission = 2 points
• steering assembly = 2 points
• engine = 1 point

(and that you must score 8 or more points to not require an IVA)

If the above is correct, than shouldn't this be enough not to need the IVA test as using all the above components will score 9 points.
What's your opinion on this. Could be a fantastic additional option to the current range and very cost effective when you take into consideration what car you will end up with. If that is not enough, look at all the upgrade options that are available for the MX engine range.
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Old 19th December 2013, 21:50
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Rudycob1 - I've just copied the following from the rules, but added the red highlight...

"Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame."

So unfortunately, you just can't add up the other stuff to make 9.

This is why Miglia, Ribble & Tribute build their various kits the way they do.

Hope that helps, Paul.
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if you don't use the chassis it requires an IVA.

edit - beaten by Paul
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mikmiglia - Good luck with the Spitfire version of your kit.

I look forward to seeing what it looks like.

Cheers, Paul.
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Thanks for the clarification of the IVA rules. Shame as it would have been a great option. I look forward to seeing the Spitfire version as well.
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So do I , as it is my chassis that Mike has to play with at the moment. Happy Christmas to all fellow Miglia nuts
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Happy Christmas Marc nice to meet you last week. And thanks for you kind use of your rolling chassis.
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Good evening We are now making bodys to Fit the spitfire now. Working doors plus bonnet
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So do I , as it is my chassis that Mike has to play with at the moment. Happy Christmas to all fellow Miglia nuts
merry christmas indeed!

look forward to pics too, but have a herald chassis on the way! keep that pretty miglia coming!

(been watching the cricket fellas?)
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Old 21st December 2013, 12:55
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yes for what its worth ...............cricket............rubbish hope it gets better at the MCG?
i have my miglia body ect, your i guess is on its way? i must say it look great.
compared to the sammio body which i did not bother with.
merry christmas to you and everyone here........ikon
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