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Old 1st September 2013, 00:26
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Default Current situation

So this is where the build stands today - I expect to mount the body shell this Sept/Oct and get the Sammio to the body shop before the end of the year for painting. Next year summer I want it to be on the Dutch roads...

The weight will be easily under 500kg and after our "MOT" and registration, I will get a tuned engine in with substantially more power (nearly double is not too difficult on 2cv). With its low weight and improved engine power it should be very entertaining to drive I hope.

I do have professional mechanic to help me

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I'll keep you posted in the next months

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Old 1st September 2013, 06:39
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Old 1st September 2013, 07:01
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Great stuff. Really good to see your progress in pictures. Keep up the good work.
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Old 1st September 2013, 07:09
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What a fantastic round up and detailed build thread Marcel, thanks for sharing it!

The Herald based kit was the same in as much that the left hand side was further forward so I cut and shut mine in the same way you did.

I do love the engineering challenges and freedom on these cars that allow us to fettle things in a unique way to suit ourselves. Although some do set you you back a bit, the end result is you can say 'I did that'

You sound like you will be ready next summer to enjoy the car and be one of only three in existence!

Well done, I look forward to the next update soon

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Your build is looking good! The winter should see it complete with some good fun to be had once the sun comes out. There has been a few more CV variants since your kit. There's one in Norway, One in Belgium, another Two in France and another Two about to head out there next month. Not quite catching up in numbers of the Herald based car but 9 isn't bad
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Old 1st September 2013, 08:10
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Great pictures and detail Mars, looks like you're going to have a superb example when it's finished.

Losing weight to better fit your Sammio? Now that's what I call dedication!

Before I saw that you've had Intertrim seats modified to suit I was going to suggest you take a leaf out of Lamborghini's book - on their flagship Sesto Elemento they've dispensed with the seat base to save weight and just fixed pads to the floor -



If you find that your head is sticking too far up into the slipstream with your conventional seats it's something you could consider.

I'd fit a slim, angled pad on a solid backboard for the backrest and 'velcro' another slim pad to the floor as the base. The further forward the base sits, the more laid back the driving position and the lower your head will be, but you'll also veer towards the long arms/bent legs 'Italian Ape' driving position that you had before you modified the front of your frame, and that used to be a feature of almost all sporty Italian cars.

That's pretty much how my driving position is and you soon get used to it so long as there's clearance for your knees. Mind you, I had a couple of Italian Sports cars a few years back so I knew what to expect.

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Anyway, keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more of your engineering solutions as you progress.
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Default seating position

Thanks guys for the nice comments! - By the way Gary told me it was no. 3 of the 2cv kits, and 77 of the regular body shells - Is that right?


seats -
Yeah I tried a more sloped back design with the seat but then I need further legroom that I stretched to the limit already. Pads on the floor might is too uncomfortable, I guess I'll find out during the test drive how high the riding height really is. I can always increase the height of the screen....

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That would be about right for the time you collected your kit. we're up to number 9 of the CV based kits and 132 of the Triumphs.
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Very good job Mars ! It's very interesting to see how we have built our 2 sammio chevaux.

I've done lot of modifications like you on the frame. I noticed that you have bought intarim seats and I wanted to buy these seat also for my car. Were do you safety belts come from ? I've got 48cm height on the car for my part.

Did you have problem when you change the alternator position with the belt. Do you have to change the way of the oil filter's tube because the belt is very close ?

Sorry for my level in english..
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Looking VERY good. On the road by early next year? .... Lets hop so. Keep up the good work.
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Default seat /alternator

Hi Zebre,

Yes - same problems, different solutions!
I have not seen any interference for the pulley on the alternator it rotates freely, but have not started the engine yet... let's see...

Seats were 47 or 48 cm high - can't remember exactly. The quality was good - I ordered the vinyl ones as this can resist humidity better as leather. Be careful - the apollo seat is very narrow..

The seatbelts I have ordered with carbuilders - UK - they have a lot of other good stuff as well.
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Hi There Marcel,

You made great progress since I visited you. A very neat journal. I would say you caught up with the forum quite fast!

Spraying before the end of the year is a neat goal! Have you found a paintshop that is up to a Sammio challenge? They better get the overspray right

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Hi,Marcel.

Very,very nice progress(much nicer then building a Burton).
Nice seats,dash and gear solutions.
We,ll keep in touch!
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Hallo Marcel,

Well done!!! Good job! Thanks to your mechanic??


Greetings Martijn van Os
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Do you have good news for us and new pictures ?
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great job
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Nice work Mars 69, looks very neat with attention for detail, are you doing the fabrication yourself?
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Another great 2CV build.
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Old 9th February 2014, 19:47
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Default Update 2CV NL

Hi all,

just wanted to update you on some of the progress on the 2cv Sammio in Holland. Although its a bit chilly and dark, I managed to get some more difficult things done:

- finished the headboard, lengthened body with polyester strip and made alu
headboard profile.
- Made a rear booth lid - not so easy as nothing is straight or symmetrical.. we will need some filler to really get it smooth.
- finalized sills of the body bottom
- started with new dashboard and gearshift tunnel
- aligned body on frame and adapted each wheel height - can be done very
easily by (un)screwing the suspension rods
- aligned rear of body to frame with a with special bracket - much better now.

More photos will follow

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Old 9th February 2014, 19:53
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Default more pictures 2cv sammio

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