SVA and E numbers on Lights

peterux · #1 14th May 2007, 19:48

Here is a general question about E numbers on lights and the SVA test.

I've read the SVA manual but can't figure out if it is compulsary to have E approval marks on your lights to pass the SVA test.

Do we any SVA testers that view this forum that could comment, maybe?

I have some front indicators (ex-motor bike) which are not 'e' marked.

Will they fail?

JG · #2 14th May 2007, 20:11

MAPPER!

Patrick · #3 14th May 2007, 20:43

Thats a good question, I've bought some fog / reverse lights that dont have E marks. I've put some different one on for now!

Patrick · #4 22nd July 2007, 21:34

Want to bring this one back up, I've got clear side repeaters which are nice and smooth so no edge radius problems but no E mark, not sure if I should put those on or the E marked ones with a sharper edge.

Also any ideas if these indicators will pass? I've got some others that I can put on with E marks:

and the repeaters:

limpabit · #5 23rd July 2007, 06:11

I'll check my side repeaters tonight Patrick. They look the same as mine. Will check for an 'E' mark. I got mine from Marlin.

Patrick · #6 23rd July 2007, 08:31

Thanks, I got mine for SVC at Stoneleigh this year!

limpabit · #7 23rd July 2007, 18:08

Hi Patrick.

Mine do not have the 'E' mark on the side repeaters.

Patrick · #8 24th July 2007, 07:03

Excellent, I will put those ones on

Thanks very much for checking.

andy · #9 25th July 2007, 20:25

I think the headlights have to be emarked but the rest are up to the SVA inspector to judge if they are adequate......

I know this is the case for the rear as I purchased rear lights as they were apparently E marked and when they arrived they were not... So I phoned up the nearest SVA centre for clarification.

The only problem is that if the lights are not an E marked cluster then they have to conform to certain distant regs such as brake light must be 200mm+ from the rear fog light.

Patrick · #10 26th July 2007, 13:43

my headlights, spot lights & rear lights are all E marked. I've put e marked fog and reverse on for the test.

I'll put the none e marked indicators and repeaters on for the test and see what happens, but looks like it will be fine! Thanks guys

peterux · #11 26th July 2007, 20:10

I've read the manual a number of times and it says "e" marked or emit light of a similar brightness.
If they are "E" marked, i guess there is no debate. If they are not marked, it is down to the examiners discretion. My plan is to use some cheap "e" marked side repeaters and then replace with my nice non-"e" marked ones.
My theory is that the less there is to his descretion, the easier it is for the examiner to give it a pass!
I bought another set of front indicators recently to get the "e" marks and now find they are only 5 watt bulbs! Normal car indicators are 21 watt, so now i'm not sure which is best?
Bright but not "e" marked?

peterux · #12 29th July 2007, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterux

I bought another set of front indicators recently to get the "e" marks and now find they are only 5 watt bulbs! Normal car indicators are 21 watt, so now i'm not sure which is best?
Bright but not "e" marked?

Found some nice small 12 volt 23 Watt bulbs for motor bikes in Halfords yesterday, so now I have "e" marks and nice bright 23Watt bulbs !
Peter

Vindi_Andy · #13 2nd August 2007, 15:09

saw some brilliant looking mirrors with repeaters built in at stoneleigh and I want to fit them but they didnt appear to be SVA compliant so not sure what to do

Combined price of nice mirrors and side repeaters is about the same as the mirrors witht them built in so dont want to be buying mirrors and repeaters twice so have similar problem

Patrick · #14 2nd August 2007, 15:25

Halfords do cheap mirrors for about £12 IIRC - they use a universal hole pattern so you can put the ones on you want, remove then put the halfords ones on. That's the plan with the Sportster as I have nice bullet mirrors that won't pass SVA. You'd then have to source some repeaters which you could sell on after the test. Same with the mirrors, there have to be many builders out there that will need a set of mirrors or repeaters just for SVA.

Vindi_Andy · #15 3rd August 2007, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Patrick

You'd then have to source some repeaters which you could sell on after the test. Same with the mirrors, there have to be many builders out there that will need a set of mirrors or repeaters just for SVA.

Problem with that is Id be left with a hole in the bonnet where the repeaters had been and it would look a bit daft with 2 sets of repeaters

Patrick · #16 3rd August 2007, 15:35

ahh I didn't think about the holes.

What causes the mirrors with repeaters to fail? Glass size, sharp edges, movement of the mirror?

Nothing can be done about glass size, but edges could be covered with some small rubber edging!

mapper · #17 5th August 2007, 09:14

Sorry John and fell's.I seem to have missed this thread,Can anyone post a pickie of the mirrors.
Mapper

Vindi_Andy · #18 6th August 2007, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick

ahh I didn't think about the holes.

What causes the mirrors with repeaters to fail? Glass size, sharp edges, movement of the mirror?

Nothing can be done about glass size, but edges could be covered with some small rubber edging!

not sure that they are definately a fail but I would be seriously bombed if i got to the test and that was the only thing it failed on

Just wondering as I saw them on the car builder solutions stand at stoneleigh and thought they were the dogs danglies

Patrick · #19 6th August 2007, 14:50

Was it these ones?

Quote:

CARBON MIRROR WITH INDICATOR Pre-wired LED indicators. SVA OK
Carbon effect body with rubber shrouded steel stalk. Convex glass size 135mm x 77mm. Glass swivels in housing. Base size 70mm x 28mm 2 screw fixing. Overall size 260mm

http://www.nfauto.co.uk/mirror1.htm

Vindi_Andy · #20 6th August 2007, 21:09

thats them but at stoneleigh they didnt say they were SVA ok but have just answered that one

Thanks patrick