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IVA Day 2, Revenge of the tester....

27 Jul 2009, 2:26pm
No to be honest he was a helpful chap.

Unlike Tim I decided to drive over to Taunton, shadowed by my son with a tow rope. The weather was appalling and I discovered the newly fitted hood leaked from the top rail and water also dripped onto my knees. The exhaust came loose on the way there, I had not done up a bolt tight enough.
I was expection a fail on the VIN plate, as I didn't have one. I had bought one and punched the VIN on it, but used an upsidedown 5 instead of a 2 and cocked the whole thing up. Still there was a VIN welded to the N/S chassis.

Also the speedo became 'entertaining'. It is an ETB one with a hall effect pickup and I had calculated the pulse per mile. I had been surprised when I took it for an MOT that it read 15mph when my wife said I was doing 30, so I divided the pulses per mile by 2 and everything seemed OK. That was until I hit 35 leaving town when it suddenly indicated 70. From then on it indicated twice my speed, until I dropped below 35 when it read correctly. It must be picking up only one magnet when going slower than 35 and two when going faster.

On to the Test:
1. VIN Failed. Not only the missing plate BUT the Marlin VIN is on the wrong (N/S) side, and was spread over 2 lines.
2. Debate over the emisions. The Serria DOHC engine has the number on a paper label on the front of the engine. In 19 years its become illigible. However Haynes showed a carburetted DOHC so the emissions test was done for that.. phew! it passed.
3. No Yellow sticker within 100mm of brake fluid filler cap.
4. Radius failures.
a)The running boards were OK, but where they could be defined as mudguards they failed. The test allowed 1.5mm rad on GRP, unless it was a mudgard in which case it has to be 2.5
b)Nut and bolt heads inside the front wheel arch, and the nut on the sterring rack tie rod end.
c)two 'sharp' bits of plastic on the heater assembly.
5. Wiring. From the sidelights and repeater lamps needed to be in a sleeve

Surprises:
1. The Cobra seats passed. The marginal bit was the height of the slots for the full harness belts. The tester seemed to improvise the seat back height test.
2. Brakes: Failed first time round on the foot pedal to my surprise. However heating the brakes up and it passed. I'd done a brake test and it easily locked the wheels up, so I was surprised by that initial failure.
3. My awful bodge to insulate the petrol tank and provide drainage away from the exhaust was never even commented on.
4. Low exhaust, no comments except advising me to back of a test ramp instead of going off forward.

So where do I get nut covers from?
and where do I get rubber U section, 3mm internal width?
answers on a post card, or post on the forum!:icon_wink:

I wasn't raining coming back and I've still got a grin on my face.
27 Jul 2009, 3:13pm
I'd try europaspares or car builder solutions
28 Jul 2009, 9:09am
Well done, Chris, not too many points and they should be relatively easy to fix.
Good luck for the re-test!
I've lost my job so I am going to have to sell mine, it's gonna break my heart.
Tim
28 Jul 2009, 9:26am
Damn. No warning? You must be gutted Tim. No chance of a getting another job in a reasonable timescale? You might not have to get rid of her...

If you do need to sell, remeber that cars that are on the road fetch more than those that aren't - so it may pay to fix the IVA issues you had and get a retest.
28 Jul 2009, 9:37am
:cry: Crikey Tim, thats bad news. I hope you can get another job soon.
28 Jul 2009, 8:32pm
great car

Tim, sorry to hear that.Just found your flick site today, and your car is looking great,really like the wheels! what are they and what tyres?hope something turns up soon 4 you soon and you dont have to sell.good luck.
28 Jul 2009, 8:57pm
That's really bad news, sorry to hear that. Like Jason says, i'm afraid in the current market climate you won't get much for an unfinished kit car.
I can understand you not wanting to spend any more money now, so maybe better to 'mothball' the car in your garage until you get back into work would be a better option.
Hope you find something soon....
...peter
30 Jul 2009, 5:39pm
Thanks guys for all your help over the months, I've really appreciated it.
Good luck to all you IVAers and good luck with the wiring when you put your new engine in Peter!
I hope I'll be back on the forum one day, but it won't be for a while as I was a naughty boy and have got kicked out of the house as well.
Tim
31 Jul 2009, 7:27am
Don't really know what to say Tim, but I hope you get everything sorted out
Chris
20 Aug 2009, 9:03am
IVA re-test booked for 28thAug at 11:00. at Taunton. First one to do a re-test there. Fee is £90

I'm trying to get a visit to DVLA at Exeter booked for the afternoon to get it registered.
20 Aug 2009, 9:43am
Fingers Crossed Chris! :)
28 Aug 2009, 2:49pm
Well I'm back, and it passed! :dance:

I'd taken photos of the fail items so it was a matter of showing a photo, and saying, "look - fixed" except for the missing VIN plate!

The tester seemed more than happy to spend most of the time discussing the position of VIN numbers on prodcution cars.

On the way home I got stopped by a Lady in Blue who ended up behind me at some temporary traffic lights. She got out and walked up and told me I didn't have a rear number plate. You should have seen her face when I told her it not only didn't have a rear one, but didn't have a front one, wasn't registered and didn't have a tax disc.

Still I showed her my insurance certificate, and my get out of jail free card, which is on the bottom of the VOSA appointment form that says you can drive an untaxed, unresistered vehicle to and from the IVA test. She then had to get onto the radio before letting me procede!

Next up - DVLA and attempt to get it registered.

I've booked my spray job, 23rd October. I'll take the car around to the sprayers workshop and remove all the panels etc. He thinks it would be easier and quicker if he does all the prep using his tools, so I will let him get on with it. Colour is going to be Rover metalic British Racing Green
28 Aug 2009, 3:21pm
Brilliant! :whoo:

Now I have someone I can turn to when mine inevitably fails it's IVA! ;)
28 Aug 2009, 3:37pm
:rockon: Congrats Chris, well done
28 Aug 2009, 6:09pm
happy days!

Well done chris, bet your well chuffed!I am beaming also, as I have my dash,centre consul and door trim all done,finished in cool cream leather to match my seats.....IVA may be this year..
29 Aug 2009, 7:08am
Well done Chris, nearly on the road at last!! Its a great feeling when you get that MAc certificate but don't forget to take a copy.:madgrin:
You must be the first Cabrio to pass the IVA if not the first Marlin ever?
Keep us posted on your paint job as that is still on my list of things to do :wink:
29 Aug 2009, 9:18am
Thanks guys. All I can say about the test process is that the tester at Taunton seemed to know about Marlins and concentrated on the areas that he knew were potential fails.
I think I had gone OTT over the fuel tank, he would have been happy with some form of heat shield rather than the huge frame I put around the tank with its own bottom and drainage holes. Funnily enough the structure seem to have fallen off already and I've now got just a sheet of thermal insulation under the tank.
29 Aug 2009, 5:23pm
Well done :D
18 Sep 2009, 12:59pm
well done Chris, plus 25k spent on building a Sportster!?!!!

Just a quick message from us here at Marlin to say very well done Chris. This is probably one of the first Cabrio's to go through the new IVA and you should be very proud of yourself.

That aside I have just had a look on eBay at the Sportster that was up for sale in July. I was very surprised that the owner reckoned he's had spent 25k on building the car and its not even finished.

Knowing how much he spent with us it concerns me that may people will think you have to spend that kind of money to build a Sportster. We only charge just over 20k to build one here at the factory!

What do you guys think? Is this the type of money you have all spent and if so what are you spending it on to reach that kind of figure? I'm intrigued

ATB
Terry
18 Sep 2009, 8:10pm
I've done most of my stuff as cheaply as I could, and I haven't kept very good accounts, but I would guess that I spent about £7k buying Marlin parts. In addition to the standard cabrio kit I bought fuel tank, bumpers, hood and lighting set from Marlin. At least £2k on miscellaneous bits (instruments and seats, seat belts, hoses, brake pipes, fuel lines, wiring loom etc.)
I have done nothing to the donor parts except clean them as the Sierra was working fine before I attacked it.

IVA cost £450 + re-test of £90, which is a large lump of cash.

The paint job is going to cost £1800+VAT.

It has a cobbled together exhaust at the moment but once it is registered (another £55 + 6 months tax, £104.50) I am planning to get a stainless steel exhaust made up (about £300).

so all up I will have spent about £11k

But then I would like to put a 2.0 Zetec in it. I haven't yet so I make sure I get an age related plat. That will add another 2k to the budget.
18 Sep 2009, 8:41pm
5EXi girl wrote:

That aside I have just had a look on eBay at the Sportster that was up for sale in July. I was very surprised that the owner reckoned he's had spent 25k on building the car and its not even finished.
What do you guys think? Is this the type of money you have all spent and if so what are you spending it on to reach that kind of figure? I'm intrigued

ATB
Terry


Ah, that'll be Timbo's car you saw. It's an e36 based car with a 2.8i M52 engine. Unfortunately, he never quite got it passed the IVA and then lost his job and is trying to sell the car to try and cover his losses.

I reckon I spent about £15k on my e30 based Sportster over a 5 year period and it's not painted yet. I've not kept track of all the sundries, but cleaners, paint, nuts, bolts, screws, rivets, etc etc all add up.

...peter
21 Sep 2009, 7:40am
Mine was a budget build but even so I reckon I have spent arround 10K and it's not painted yet. I have bought a HVLP spray kit so I am hoping to do the paint myself - I guess that will add another £500 if I include the cost of the equipment.

Robin