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Ideas for the next Sammio

29 Aug 2011, 6:26am
We all know Garry
He is always juggling the building of current kits with the development of another model.

All the while he is thinking of the next design.
I found this pic completely by accident - I can't find out if its real or if its photoshopped but i don't care i want one.



Aston Martin DB4 Zagato front -side vents look possibly DBR1 inspired so im guessing the rear could be from the same.

Now if we could get this shape over an MX5 im sure you could charge the £3000+ price tag of the MEV, Retroforza or AMX07

Anyone else want one?
29 Aug 2011, 6:53am
ME ME ME The G47? it's the dogs soft bits..
reshape and length the german style front? Sounds easy! Gary?
29 Aug 2011, 7:38am
"Now if we could get this shape over an MX5 im sure you could charge the £3000+ price tag of the MEV, Retroforza or AMX07'"

I love it. No to the MX5 donor, though, I had one of those a few years ago and I found it to be a bit like alcohol free lager: it looked right but something was missing, it had no soul. Plus, when you start charging £3k+ for the body the total build cost is going to get uncomfortably close to a five figure sum. For a toy.

No, I think the shape of Aston grille is perfect for adding extra cooling to the mighty air cooled 600cc flat twin of the legendary tin snail. Think of the irony: it's got the looks; the grace; the desirability of a million dollar classic; people will look on with envy as you climb in and prime the fuel pump; you turn the key...
29 Aug 2011, 8:03am
I've always loved the Porsche 718 RSK.

It's been done a couple of times before, GP Spyder, etc, but you don't seem to be able to get one at the moment.

I think the front is far better executed than the 550, plus Sir Stirling Moss piloted a real one at Goodwood this year.

Shortened beetle chassis (iva, I know) and Scooby power, mmMMmm...



29 Aug 2011, 10:50am
the GP Spyder RSK 718 is being re-manufactered by the company shown below. Its probably worth a look for anybody building a Sammio 550 for some of the parts both for the new body and the Beetle base car.

http://www.718-rsk.co.uk/ contact number +44 (0) 7885 492949. The company is run by a guy called Robert Lindsay.
29 Aug 2011, 11:56am
bladerunner wrote:
the GP Spyder RSK 718 is being re-manufactered by the company shown below. Its probably worth a look for anybody building a Sammio 550 for some of the parts both for the new body and the Beetle base car.

http://www.718-rsk.co.uk/ contact number +44 (0) 7885 492949. The company is run by a guy called Robert Lindsay.


That one must have slipped by me. Great looking car but when you start totting up the prices you're looking at spending at least eight to ten grand, whereas I'm looking to do a Rolls Royce job on my Sammio for less than four.
30 Aug 2011, 3:28pm
Patton wrote:
ME ME ME The G47? it's the dogs soft bits..
reshape and length the german style front? Sounds easy! Gary?


G47 ? Will have to wait until next year then....:biggrin1:

Beautiful car ....anyone got any rear shots at all ....?
30 Aug 2011, 6:45pm
Ok i have done some digging and this is what i have found.....

It is a DB4 Zagato Sanction 3 built in 2001

In 1960s, only 19 original Aston Martin DB4 Zagatos were built. They were instant classics.


In 1991, Aston Martin and Zagato built four "Sanction II" DB4 Zagatos
recreations using four left over DB4 chassises from the 60s.
They were built to exact specification to the original DB4s and were sold over $1,000,000 each.

In 2000, two more DB4 Zagato recreations were created by a different company based on two left over DB4 body shells from Zagato. These two "replicas" were called "Sanction III" DB4 Zagatos.
They were not official products from Aston Martin or Zagato, but offered an almost exacting glimpse on
a car that might have been created if production ever increased beyond the original 19 cars.











The standard spyger body is similar maybe its just a third front section required...
30 Aug 2011, 7:48pm
that is the dogs danglies. love it.:love:
30 Aug 2011, 8:59pm
Excuse me I need to go to the little Engineers room
31 Aug 2011, 6:54am
That's simply stunning and I think it shows what a naturally talented designer Gary is because it's looks are 85% Sammio.

Anyone know if the older BMW 3 series could donate its bits as a base?

M3 G47 anyone?

Over to you, Gary... :jaw:
31 Aug 2011, 8:03pm
Yes, it is stunning. Some specs. Wheelbase 93 inches, Length 159 inches, height to the top of the windscreen 39 inches, width 63 inches. The car sits on 16 by 6 inch rims. Weight 2425 lbs.
27 Nov 2011, 8:57am
OK Garry you have hinted on the fact you have ideas for an art deco styled car.
Any spoilers , the TVR chassis an i putting 2 and 2 together?

How about the sleek shape of a Morgan aeromax mated with the art deco styling cues
27 Nov 2011, 9:33am
Gary - check the PM I sent regarding the TVR i am looking at. If it is good i can probably have it sat outside your garage next weekend.

not a big fan of the back end of that Aston but if you want to use the rest during 'adjustments' to make the G46 fit the TVR i wouldn't object.
27 Nov 2011, 2:25pm
WorldClassAccident wrote:
Gary - check the PM I sent regarding the TVR i am looking at. If it is good i can probably have it sat outside your garage next weekend.

not a big fan of the back end of that Aston but if you want to use the rest during 'adjustments' to make the G46 fit the TVR i wouldn't object.


pm replied to....looks ok to me.....I am looking forward to this one ....as I said its an idea thats been in my head for a while ....not as long as some other ideas but a few months now....I was looking at other donors that will work with the Sammio range....as traditional and relevant ( in my opinion ) that the Triumphs and Scimitar are , they won't be around for ever and there are limitations with using vintage cars as donors...my problem is I like cars that look old to feel old as well....I take this as far as liking patina'd paint and old upholstery etc....not all cars need to be shiny and spanking to look great...

Anyhows , there aren't many donors that will work....I am a big fan of avoiding SVA so that limits things somewhat ....if our sales and enquiries are anything to go by , the SVA exempt models are definitely the ones that people want ...550 interest is there but not like the G46 and Spyder interest ( possibily because they are prettier than the 550 !! )

The TVR was suggested by someone else when talking about Ferrari replicas and the old light bulb lit up !!
Other donors I have considered are the Lotus Elite ....not the early 60's one but the 70's into 80's sports hatch , estate cars !! Like the Tasmin , butt ugly but seperate chassied with modernish mechanicals on a RWD chassis ...The Lotuses ( lotii ? ) are even cheaper and although slightly wider tracked than the Scimitars , they are closer at 98'' in the wheelbase .....

If its horsepower and space frames though , the TVR wins it....

I don't think we will be producing a package to build a TVR or Lotus based car but I may create some moulds to enable us to build a few turnkeys at some time.....

Roadster - you have added 2 + 2 and come up with 22 !!

My deco inspired car was first drawn for me as a concept in the late 90's ....I got sidetracked with Hot Rod kits and some Beetle stuff and it got put on the back burner ......I may resurrect it one day but the Sammio stuff is really where I am at right now....it was going to be a cross between a 34 Ford Roadster ( I had moulds for those at the time ) an Auburn Speedster and various coachbuilt delahayes etc...probably on a Scimitar SE6 chassis or similar for length , 103.5'' wheelbase ...originally pencilled in for a Mazda B2000 chassis but they have all been exported nowadays ....117.5'' wheelbase ! closed in pontoon style fenders , long bonnet raked grille , duval style screen ....etc etc ....
28 Nov 2011, 9:31pm
Ideas for Gary!

after hearing what gary likes.. heres a couple another Lister, Chevy this time and a Delahaye 235, slightly more subdued than some of their models but i like it.:biggrin:
28 Nov 2011, 9:39pm
Put me down for the G47 Aston....could you make it fit on a cerbera that would go like sh1t
31 Mar 2012, 9:22am
If fibreglass is getting too expensive Gary, perhaps you could go for a more minimilast look for your next project -



Check out the period safety clothing!

Ford Transit chassis would be a cheap and available donor...
31 Mar 2012, 11:12am
now .. we are talk in ... i would buy one.. my type car, just great ....can i have one now .... i think that's the way to go...........
31 Mar 2012, 11:13am
this is the way to go...
31 Mar 2012, 11:26am
Do you think the cable trailing from the driver's back is an early form of crash restraint?

It won't save the driver but it's designed to yank off his expensive suit in a crash and prevent blood getting all over it.

It could also be one of those amusing practical jokes played by drunk friends that never end well...