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250 SWB On Ebay

21 Jun 2017, 5:09pm
20 grand seems like wishful thinking to me.
21 Jun 2017, 6:45pm
No paint and still has the flash lines. Easy bit done, getting it finished and painting is where the hard work and money comes into it.
I wonder how well the doors open if it is still in gel coat?

Makes Hurnleft's look like a bargain.
Smash was gaining to be putting his up for sale, any news on that?
21 Jun 2017, 6:58pm
If it was finished it could well be worth a lot more. As it stands maybe half what it is listed for, its all in the final finish and attention to detail.
Good luck though !
21 Jun 2017, 7:01pm
I think that is Mineheart's car ...looks like he had a change of mind on the dash swap at Nubodi's if it is ...It will be interesting to see what happens price wise with this , prices are definitely on the up right across the classic and ''classic'' market at the moment ...
22 Jun 2017, 8:45am
Jaguartvr wrote:
No paint and still has the flash lines. Easy bit done, getting it finished and painting is where the hard work and money comes into it.
I wonder how well the doors open if it is still in gel coat?

Makes Hurnleft's look like a bargain.
Smash was gaining to be putting his up for sale, any news on that?


Waiting on new occupancy sensor to sort the airbag lights (it was removed when the seats were swapped and i wasn't thinking ahead!), then MOT, then detailing then putting up for sale and look at whatever (or even if any) offers come in.

Nubodi Northern agent website (https://www.automotivenostalgia.com/) says turnkey Kali's start at £19k and Koupes from £22,250 so that ebay add is really chancing it's arm assuming those turnkey prices are painted and also assuming by Turnkey they mean you don't supply anything as opposed to drive in drive out conversion.

It hasn't even been lowered has it?
22 Jun 2017, 3:54pm
Doesn't Chris sell cars close to this stage for around £8k?
22 Jun 2017, 8:00pm
Barber wrote:
Doesn't Chris sell cars close to this stage for around £8k?


Yes ..because that's nearer its value in that state of finish in my opinion .. I think , as has been said , professionally painted and finished examples will achieve those prices ...Its interesting how much the common opinion of their values has increased since the DNA cars have made strong money ..as is often the case , everything increases in the chain in front and behind ..genuine cars increase in value , replica's go up too ...

Good quality cars deserve to attain a decent price ... Hopefully , lots of people won't try to jump on the bandwagon ...this has a habit of bringing prices down , in my experience ....
22 Jun 2017, 8:39pm
Look at how other classic type kits have gone up in value over the last few years. A good Cobra replica will be anything from £20k - £40k. Most at these figures will have a Chevy engine and Jaguar running gear and a fibre glass body ( hardly a true replica ).
If you want a proper Cobra eg a Hawk 289 with Ford V8 and aluminium body the prices are silly.
To place a well built and finished Tribute 250SWB around the low £20k's should be an easy target price. The 250's displayed at the BBQ would be worth mid to high £20k's imo at the very least.
23 Jun 2017, 6:43am
Barber wrote:
Doesn't Chris sell cars close to this stage for around £8k?


There are builds and there are "builds".
23 Jun 2017, 7:09am
Barber wrote:
Doesn't Chris sell cars close to this stage for around £8k?


Just for the record, I no longer have time to take on builds for customers, but will continue to occasionally "put together" an unfinished car for my own use (for fun?) and then sell it when needs must.
23 Jun 2017, 7:38am
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ....My visits to Tribute HQ have regularly seen cars at various stages of build where the customer has asked for a ''few changes'' ..a fitting of the kit to a car totally unsuitable for the kit in the way it was designed etc etc. this type of job never pays for itself , Tribute will have been losing money trying to keep customers happy ...I have been there , so know how it works ..I've had customers turn up when I was hungry for work and you will agree to do jobs that just aren't viable and end up working for less than minimum wage to achieve your goal and attempt to keep a customer happy .....
Threads like the ''what would you get Chris to build for you '' one , although are interesting and the virtual pub chat is entertaining , it does outline just how people don't realise how much effort and hours go into creating a facsimile of an existing car style and just how inappropriate some donors are ...overlaying 2 pictures on photoshop can build anything you like - on the screen ..... I think Chris has spent way too much time trying to accommodate that type of customer over the years and spread himself a bit thin at times ....The kits are selling well , a 2 man operation is running at full steam keeping that going , the space is limited ...there just isn't the time or space to entertain those builds anymore ...
23 Jun 2017, 8:11am
Tribute Automotive wrote:
Just for the record, I no longer have time to take on builds for customers, but will continue to occasionally "put together" an unfinished car for my own use (for fun?) and then sell it when needs must.


Chris, give me a call next time you have put one together and had your fun in it ;-)
23 Jun 2017, 7:33pm
confirm sold...

Hi All,

I got in touch with Nubodi and it sold rather rapidly, close to asking price, which is great news for all of us who have spent so much time on these builds and great news for the SWB 250 kit in general :rockon:
23 Jun 2017, 9:15pm
smash wrote:
Bloody hell has it sold already?!


Why are you so surprised ? The Nubodi car was an excellent build.
You'll have no problem selling your car, it looks spot on. You have gone the extra mile with the finish and detailing, its what people want.
24 Jun 2017, 5:46pm
I guess I'm just surprised because Bobs car went for 20 and I felt the body on that was far superior. Maybe it's the whole resale red thing
24 Jun 2017, 5:55pm
Apart from the Nubodi red car I don't think a decent 250 convertible has come onto the market. To me a convertible will always make more money than a fixed head.
How many people would have guessed even close to what the 2fifities have been selling for.
I know the quality of the 2fifty but at the end of the day if you have a 2fifty and a 250SWBc finished to the same standard is there going to be that much of a price difference ?(I know you have to factor in the 2fifty interior).
I do like the fact that I can say to people that ask that it is not a replica as Ferrari never made a convertible, small point but it appeals to me.
24 Jun 2017, 7:38pm
THAT'S VERY ENCOURAGING IF IT HAS SOLD FOR THAT AMOUNT ...It certainly looks good in red and that must have been a factor in the speed of sale ...

Jaguartvr wrote:
To me a convertible will always make more money than a fixed head.
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If that proves to be the case , which I'm not sure it will be as the hardtop is still a very good looking car ...then Tribute would be perfectly justified in increasing the price of the convertible kit ... And rising turnkey prices could affect hardtop kit prices too ......

As a manufacturer myself , and putting my business hat on ( rarely done ) it is always good news when the product works ...and if there is potentially some big rewards for a builders efforts , then Tribute are entitled to benefit from those increased profits too ..... in my opinion ...obviously home builders and build agents won't agree with me....

But , if you like , its like the increase in housing values means building plots increase in value too , no one questions that ........
24 Jun 2017, 8:19pm
Increased price will almost definitely mean VAT registration (I expect they're treading very carefully as it is) and then prices really will increase. Which may in turn lead to increased expectations with respect to quality (or run the risk of someone taking a mould and producing something to rival DNA - Tribute would be powerless to do anything as it's not their intellectual property )
24 Jun 2017, 8:29pm
I have decided to mould my car,

It is the only way I will be happy with it, as it stands it is pulling all over the place, I am sure the recent heat has not helped, it will be a lot of work but hope fully worth it in the end.

It wont happen for a while but I will do it within the next year or so.
24 Jun 2017, 8:56pm
smash wrote:
Tribute would be powerless to do anything as it's not their intellectual property )


Who's IPR is it then ? Its not a replica of a 250 SWB ..Its far enough away from an original to not be a conflict in my opinion ..and the concept of the ''60's Coupe'' fitting a Z3 in the way it does is definitely a Tribute achievement ..

I'm no expert on IPR ..I always play with original design , so feel safe that I am ok ..but I have been led to believe a 10% or more change can even make your own design compromised ..a Tribute 250 SWB is definitely more than 10% away from a Ferrari 250 SWB ....
If its the way the kit fits , then my internal frame method of fitting a S*mmio to a Triumph chassis should have some degree of protection ..maybe ?

Not a confrontational question ...Im just intrigued into how safe our hard work really is in the big scheme of things ...
24 Jun 2017, 9:04pm
I always thought that if it didn't fit in the original moulds their was no conflict of interest.

My body certainly wont go back in to the original moulds now, it has been modded quite a bit.

Happy to listen to any other opinions.
24 Jun 2017, 9:35pm
Another holiday ruined....

I have already legally supressed an overseas companies attempt to copy a Tribute product. This will be my only public post on this subject, all other communications will be directly to those concerned via legal channels.