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Exhaust

8 Jul 2006, 8:24pm
So - Patrick

How long is it going to take to have your custom exhaust made? Are you going for multiple side exit pipes like the green car at Stoneleigh?

Cheers

Robin
9 Jul 2006, 9:53pm
They've said they need it until the end of the week, it will be geting a side pipe and side exits :D I'm going over there tommorrow to check on progress - I'm expecting to see a mock up. It will be better than the one at Stoneleigh (IMO of course!!) :)
10 Jul 2006, 7:22am
Sounds good - I guess we are all looking forward see some pictures :nod:

Robin
10 Jul 2006, 8:19am
And if it looks really good, expect a lot of us to be asking for the design! :D
10 Jul 2006, 1:10pm
I'll make sure and mention that to them ;) I can't wait to see what it looks like :D
10 Jul 2006, 7:48pm
First pictures from Eclipse of the exhaust mockup up - this should give a good idea of the final product. We'll be going back on Friday to check the progress. Hopefully we can get the car back early next week.









10 Jul 2006, 8:17pm
Patrick,

I assume that the real pipes will be a larger diameter as well? I only ask as the pipe in the pic looks quite skinny... and 6 into 1 skinny pipe wouldn't be great for gas flow.

I'm sure the exhaust people know what they're doing more than me though! :)

And it's going to look great! :D
10 Jul 2006, 8:22pm
GreatOldOne wrote:
Patrick,

I assume that the real pipes will be a larger diameter as well? I only ask as the pipe in the pic looks quite skinny... and 6 into 1 skinny pipe wouldn't be great for gas flow.

I'm sure the exhaust people know what they're doing more than me though! :)

And it's going to look great! :D


Dunno to be honest, but those arent the final pipes. I will give them a call tomorrow.

EDIT: I have asked on E30zone :)
10 Jul 2006, 10:20pm
Looks like they are going to a great deal of trouble getting it right.......

Looking forward to seeing the finished article!

Peter
11 Jul 2006, 7:35am
Looking good - if I hadn't already completed my underfloor exhaust I would now certainly be tempted along this route. I assume it's all stainless? Do they polish it when it's finished or is it left in the "as made" state? You can get a fantastic finish on stainless (like the Marlin bumpers) but it is very hard work and requires a proper buffing machine (I believe).

Robin
11 Jul 2006, 7:39am
Yeah it will all be stainless and sent off for polishing when it is complete - proper "bling" ;)

I plan on having it ceramic coated on the inside too - that way you can't burn yourself on the headers, which can only be good for SVA! :D
11 Jul 2006, 7:14pm
Well the guys on E30zone we're a little raised eyebrow about length of the headers but the pipe size doesnt seem to be a problem. They are about the same size as the ports which should be fine :)

They did agree that it will look very cool and sound awesome :D
11 Jul 2006, 8:32pm
Excellent. Can't wait to see them finished!

[edit] Woohoo - I'm a senior member now! :madgrin:
12 Jul 2006, 6:21am
Exhausted...

GreatOldOne wrote:
Patrick,

I assume that the real pipes will be a larger diameter as well? I only ask as the pipe in the pic looks quite skinny... and 6 into 1 skinny pipe wouldn't be great for gas flow.


I think what I would suggest is to take the first 3 headers into 1 pipe and the second 3 into another pipe and then bring both pipes back to the silencer.

A. It's basically what BMW do
B. It would make a cool looking exhaust look even better!

IMHO of course

Robin
12 Jul 2006, 7:10am
I'm going to stick to the 6:1 design :) The engine has so much torque anyway I dont think it will miss it down low with the weight of the car (I can always do a 2.7 conversion and get all that torque back and more ;) )
14 Jul 2006, 6:30pm
Well its been someone of a disappoint end to the day. We went down to look at the progress today to find nothing done at all. He showed up 5 very poor quality bent pipes that were the wrong length and still hasnt given us a price on the side pipe. The bends came from custom chrome and again its custom chrome that seem to be dragging their heels with the side pipe price.

The manifold plate - again was told the custom chrome one didnt fit so he got a local company to make one. This is "out for polishing" so we couldnt see it.

We're going back Wednesday - im going give him a call tomorrow and say if we dont see any progress we're pulling the plug and taking the car home again. The really is very far from what i would call good service!
14 Jul 2006, 9:34pm
Patrick,
how dissappointing.

I'd get a fixed price and some kind of agreement on what it is going to look like when finished, or you might end up with a large bill?

I thought you had a quote from Custom Chrome?
14 Jul 2006, 10:28pm
Good point, for some reason he's say CC wont quote him on the side pipe for whatever reason and thats stopping him giving me the final price.

I've got the name of his contact at cc so will be have chat with them.
15 Jul 2006, 9:12am
Had a chat with the MD of custom chrome today, nice chap and he's promised to get to the bottom of it. Sounds like the bends were not fromo custom chrome. Apprently they've not had any spec through get for the side pipe that he new of so not sure whats going on now. I'm going to wait and see what happens on Monday.
15 Jul 2006, 3:58pm
Well we've pulled the plug, going to pick the car up next week. Time to come up with a plan B.
16 Jul 2006, 5:30pm
This is what plan B may look like:







Then pipes & back box or perhapse after SVA side pipes.

A bit of a switch round from style of substance to substance over style. At least this way we'll get the most power out of the engine :madgrin:
16 Jul 2006, 8:13pm
Patrick that manifold must be costing a fair amount? I must say that the Marlin designed exhaust is a very neat solution to twin side pipes and sounds beautiful even thoug the cost sounds a lot. Do some measurements before you purchase as the clearance around the oil filter and the engine mounting is pretty tight for 6 branch.
16 Jul 2006, 9:08pm
Yes, it's not cheap - but neither is the Marlin exhaust. The choice was show or go and the final decision has landed on go due to the issues surrounding the "show" exhaust I had in mind. I also I don't like the Marlin exhaust design personally I dont see the point in having pipes either side if the engine is a straight six. Looks nice though :)
17 Jul 2006, 7:46am
Patrick wrote:
The choice was show or go and the final decision has landed on go due to the issues surrounding the "show" exhaust I had in mind.


Sorry the "show" exhaust didn't work out - I thought that it was looking pretty promising in the mock up stage. What finally made you decode to drop this idea - was it just problems with the place that was making it?

Robin
17 Jul 2006, 8:17am
I may go into more detail once we've got the car back in our garage, but that won't be until Tuesday - it was a bit of mess :)