Peter
I was up until 2.30am on Sunday night looking at Hot rods and Rat rods* on Youtube. They just look so much fun.

My favourite : 1923 Ford T- bucket in Black. Adams family style.:icon_smile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...uOgfvvzBk#t=8s

* - (same but the bodywork/chassis is deliberately left rusty) .

Those cars are just insane! One guy just put it in to gear at tick-over and spun his wheels up - on tick-over!!!!

Put me down for one of those as well please :-)

Cheers Robin

So - scores on the boards so far is:

Servo:
Jason (GOO)
Nigel (NigelB)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
John (Oaktree11)

Adaptor Plate:
Jason (GOO)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Mike (Mike)

Long 3/8" Clevis:
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)

We do not seem to have reached many of the existing earlier Sportster owners? I will try to contact the Membership Secretary and the Sportster committe member to see if they will allow us to contact existing owners direct.
There will not be many Cabrio owners, as most have fitted Ford (some BMW M20) engines, and will have been able to utilise the bigger standard Ford servo.

Madabout contributors who might (?) be interested:
MSportster (Patrick)
Morris (Ian)
Glen

.......any others?

Are people happy to source their own clevis? I am happy to source a job lot and post at cost if the interest is there?

Oh and count me in for the clevis pin, not sure if I need it it but hey, it might be needed.

If you want any money up front, happy to oblige. Don't want anyone out of pocket on my behalf.

Dual servo
 

Hi guys...from a single comment about a dual servo to the fantastic engineering efforts of all involved, a big congrats ...please include me in all parts needed to complete, I also would be happy to finance in advance.A great example of the benefits of this forum!

Revised list:

Servo:
Jason (GOO)
Nigel (NigelB)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
John (Oaktree11)
Jeremy (jeremy)

Adaptor Plate:
Jason (GOO)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Mike (Mike)
Jeremy (jeremy)

Long 3/8" Clevis:
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Jeremy (jeremy)

Hi Jeremy

I have enjoyed being able to give something back to all those who have contributed through this and other forums and helped me so much with my own build.

I hope we can get a few more interested yet..................

Regards
Mike

Mike

Great efforts on this, looks like a good solution to the poor brakes problem.

Add me to the group buy list if it goes ahead.

Booster, Adapter Plate and Long Clevis.

Regards


John

John

I've sent you a PM

Mike

Mike

PM replied

John

Whoa, haven't logged in for a few days and missed all this. You can put me down for servo in whatever finish is available provided it's not bright green or something else non-metallic or black.

I kind of got a bit lost while quickly reading through the backlog so I'll take advice as to whether I need an adaptor and longer clevis.
I'm going for an E30 cylinder with the res on top as BMW intended so as that's the same as Mike, I guess it's a yes on both items

Things move so fast on here I think I'm out of breath...................!

I'm not sure what I'll need at the moment but put me down for an adaptor plate and clevis as well please.

Nigel

Update
 

Hi All

Quick Update

• Spoke to Duksville today - Paul advises his supplier is out of stock, and does not expect to receive a new delivery this side of Christmas. I think we may have to wait longer than that, but we'll see.
  
  I've had a search for manufacturers in the US, but to get them here at Duksville's price we would have to be a dealer - so unlikely, but worth a try.
  
  Universal Adaptor
  
  http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6118/...e646aa73a1.jpg
  
  My aim is to make a plate like this, excluding the two threaded screw fixings. You can then drill and counter sink your own to suit your particular master cylinder and angle.
  The two smaller holes will be determined by the Dual Servo's studs.
  
  Dedicated Adaptor?
  For those of you with master cylinders that have the same stud centres as the Metro, and who are willing to risk getting the correct angle relative to the servo, I could get studs welded in. What are your preferences? Now I think about it could this suit the majority?
  
  I need to know the maximum dia. of centre hole required. Has anyone had any problem fitting their master cylinder to the Metro servo. Can I take it as a given that the hole needs only to match the Metro servo?
  
  Jason has proven that the new Dual servo is self sealed, so there will be no requirement for the recess shown around the centre hole.
  
  The bite out the side is for where the vacuum elbow fits, so will be common to all adaptors.

Mike

Personally I think it would be better to produce the adapter plate just with the holes for fixing it to the servo. Its not a huge job to drill and countersink two holes for the master cylinder fixings and I suspect there is quite a variation of master cylinders in use out there as Marlin changed their preferences more than once.

On another front there seems to be plenty of places in the US that will sell you a servo directly but the cost of delivery to the UK is eye watering....

Cheers

Robin

To get a good price we would need to buy from a manufacturer and get a dealer discount. I am trying to contact mbm, but even if we ordered, say 20, I don't know whether they will fob us off to Pirate Jack their end user dealer.

Paul at Duksville suggested his source came from Taiwan - does anyone have contacts out there?!
Mike

Revised List as at 18 November
 

Revised list as at 19 November 2011

Servo:
Jason (GOO)
Nigel (NigelB)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
John (Oaktree11)
Jeremy (jeremy)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - Edit : NigelB only wants one!
John (Cabrioman)
Morris (Ian)
Mashtun (Mark) TBC
David Siddall (MOC)
Patrick
Ian Papworth

Adaptor Plate:
Jason (GOO)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Mike (Mike) S/S
Jeremy (jeremy)
Nigel (NigelB)
John (Cabrioman)
Morris (Ian)
Mashtun (Mark) TBC
David Siddall (MOC)
Patrick S/S
Ian Papworth
john (Oaktree)

Long 3/8" Clevis:
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Jeremy (jeremy)
Nigel (NigelB)
John (Cabrioman)
Morris (Ian)
Mashtun (Mark) TBC
David Siddall (MOC)
Patrick
Ian Papworth
John (Oaktree)

Hey Mike,
You've got me down for 2 servos. It might be a good idea but I think I'll struggle with space.........................!!
Just the one will do me fine.
Cheers
Nigel

Again I missed a load of stuff by not visiting in a couple days! I need to be less busy :)

Please count me for all 3 items :) stainless servo if it's not too much more than zinc.

Patrick

No problem!

I need to be more busy........(at work)!!

Mike

Another order - I've had an email from Ian Papworth saying he would like a full kit (servo, adaptor, clevis).

Sweet, anybody post in the marlin enthusiasts group on Facebook? I've put an update on my site pointing people here.

Mild Steel or Stainless Adaptor
 

I've had a reply from the engineering company advising they can supply mild steel or stainless adaptor plate.

If the mild steel is around £7 + delivery, and the stainless £10 + delivery what are your preferences?

Bear in mind drilling 6mm stainless can be very difficult unless you have a slow revolution pillar drill and cutting fluid.
I can get the master cylinder holes cut if you know their positions relative to vertical, and what centres they are on, for a small extra cost.

For those with master cylinders that fit the Metro servo direct it will be easy as I have one to take details from.

Mike

Stainless for me please :)

Mike, Great thread!! Am in the process of a build at the moment. Have got a metro servo and sourced a master cylinder already, will put these on the car as it's being built, as have got them and adpated them (and paid for them already!!). But I may well come back to you once the car is on the road to place an order, although I appreciate you are buying in bulk at the mo, would be a shame to waste the work/money spent on the bit's we've got already!

Keep up the good work!!

Rob

Rob

That's fine. I'll order a few spares of the adaptor and clevis as they are so cheap: and I think you'll pick up a servo within £5 of what we pay, so you are not going to lose out.

But you will want one, eventually........................................ ...!:icon_wink:

I am with Mike, put me down for the adaptor plate and clevis too please.

Glad to ante up in advance if needed.

Thanks

John

All - I've moved the order list to a separate thread, for ease of finding and updating.

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...4266#post24266

I'll keep an eye on this thread going forward, and if and when people add their names to the order or change their requirements, I'll update the other thread.

BTW - went for a blast this afternoon. Brakes still a revelation. :)

Mike. I would prefer a Mild Steel adaptor plate as I only have a weedy pillar drill and will need to drill holes for the master cylinder on final assembly. Presumably the "new" mast cyl securing screws are countersink type and tack welded to stop them rotating? If so countersinking in Stainless will not be easy. As per the attached photos my inlet and outlet ports are opposite config to the photos on earlier posts for some reason. I hope this will actually help me gain the extra 2" forward shift by rotating the whole master cylinder clockwise when viewed from the front, followed by some careful re-bending of the rigid copper brake pipes. As I have a remote reservoir the only constraints will be keeping the outlet ports high enough to allow for bleeding the master cylinder after reassembly. Pete.

Not sure where the photo went. Will try again.

Grrr! Final try with small file size 33KB!

....................Just a thought as a possible way of increasing the bulk purchase numbers.

I wonder if it's worth talking to Mark and Terry at Marlin, let them know of the trials that Mike and Jason have carried out and the marked improvement in braking performance the dual servo provides. Marlin may think of adding it as a kit option for all new builders.

Probably a bit of a long shot given the stock levels they work with but it may be worth letting them know. When you see what they charge for a servo on their current price list the dual 7" could provide them with a healthy margin............................!!

N.

GV8Pete - that looks like the same as my cylinder. It's probably the Marlin standard Sierra one... I'll update your preferences on the order list.

Nigel

Part of the reason I have organised to make a kit up is to make it easy for builders to get hold of the kit, and at a reasonable price................neither are philosophies particularly associated with Marlin!

I agree we should try and make future builders aware there is a significantly better servo option, but they will be able to buy direct from Duksville at a much better price.
I am happy to order half a dozen spare adaptors and clevis, as they are so cheap, to keep in stock.

Well you guys have been busy and well done to all those involved.

I would also like to be included on the list for all parts nessecary to complete modification.

I am not sure what servo/master cylinder I have perhaps you guys can identify from the attached picture.

http://www.ogamedk.com/brakes.JPG

As you're using the adaptor plate Stuart, I think that's probably a BMW master cylinder.

What's your preference on finish on the servo and adaptor plate? For the time being I'll put you down as Plated / mild steel...

Yes plated/mild steel is fine for mr.

Hi All,

Time for me to join the list.

Although my build is on hold, the last thing I did before stopping was to work on the servo set up. I have a new metro servo with E30 master cylinder using the Marlin supplied angle change adapter plate. I intend to fit a reservoir on top of the master cylinder so I will need to drill the new plate myself to get the angle right.

Therefore, put me down for a standard servo, clevis pin and mild steel plate without holes. Payment available whenever it's needed.

Thanks, Sorton

Added you to the ever growing list. We may need a container load at this rate... :)