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y cymro 29th August 2015 13:59

The Sammio's a great looking car and it would be good to see something like this built on an MX5, Z3 or whatever.
But I misinterpreted Roadster's design as a more modern concept so didn't expect it to have been influenced by your earlier work ( though like many things, there are a lot of influences in there!)

Roadster 30th August 2015 07:19

I never consciously incorporated the Sammio into the design.

But 50's and 60's design repeat a lot of themes and some lines are duplicated on multiple models.
But while reading Pauls thread I realised How similar the Sammios lines were.

It is a shame JMC it would have been a great little car - you were cutting up your Miata the same time as I was. Seems an age ago

Tribute Automotive 6th September 2015 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by y cymro (Post 70594)
That's very nice. I wonder what it would look like on 17 or 18" wheels rather than the 24s that you've drawn?

Trawling for a picture of SWB door handle workings I came across this pic:

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...psf9wnmobw.jpg

That's a 22" Range Rover alloy that we tried on the rear of a Z3. A little tight on the rear of the sill, but a lower profile tyre would help. Didn't try it on the front but I expect there would be some turning circle issues!

Having run 19's, I would stick to 18's.

Roadster 10th October 2015 20:45

Been a bit quiet recently, I have stopped sketching more ideas.
The core idea is in place and until Chris starts to sculpt I don't know how it will evolve.

I did get my first rear lamp mocked up though.
Readers that have been following the thread will know that my choice of light units have caused lots of debate.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...pszhyl5rjb.jpg

zagmad 22nd October 2015 17:46

Hows the sculpting going.

zagmad 22nd October 2015 17:54

I miss driving my mx5. Interiors well set up. At the moment their isn't any seats or carpets,headlights,tailights

Roadster 22nd October 2015 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagmad (Post 72079)
Hows the sculpting going.

I don't think Chris has started it yet .
Im waiting with baited breath

Anthony Cherry 24th October 2015 10:23

good luck with your build project ....
just read the thread and sounds interesting.
Will be good to see it at Stoneleigh!

BazMason 24th October 2015 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster (Post 71828)
Been a bit quiet recently, I have stopped sketching more ideas.
The core idea is in place and until Chris starts to sculpt I don't know how it will evolve.

I did get my first rear lamp mocked up though.
Readers that have been following the thread will know that my choice of light units have caused lots of debate.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...pszhyl5rjb.jpg

Roadster, when prepping these light cups make sure they are rubbed down to base and give them a good priming. I have owned a couple of Fiat Coupe's and on both there was a problem with the paint bubbling with these cups. Must be a reaction with the paint as they are plastic/composite so no rust issues.

Roadster 7th November 2015 20:06

Im used to working outside and the weather normally hinders progress.

But the weather keeping me inside led me to complete another lamp.
The led halos are working and the red covers mimic the look of the wheels.

So if you squint and imagine them installed in the rear clam

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psf0u2z0uk.jpg

I visited Chris last weekend and the z300 shell is complete and waiting to be mutated into my beast.

Roadster 7th November 2015 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by BazMason (Post 72117)
Roadster, when prepping these light cups make sure they are rubbed down to base and give them a good priming. I have owned a couple of Fiat Coupe's and on both there was a problem with the paint bubbling with these cups. Must be a reaction with the paint as they are plastic/composite so no rust issues.

Thanks for the advice
Im actually considering Plastidipping it as it is easier to maintain a satin finish unlike paint

Roadster 16th November 2015 09:08

Xmas is coming
 
This weekend was one of the rare occasions that nobody was after my attention. So what to do with this rare free time?
I got up before dawn and headed to the "dream factory"

Chris was already hard at work when I arrived but as always welcomed me and gave me time.

So my mission was to refocus on the build. While waiting for my position in the queue I had become distracted. I even started sketching again - dangerous cant drift off into another project before this one is finished.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...09567354_n.jpg

Did I mention that I have a beach buggy that is 95% complete?
Next year I promise :D

I recently started seeing a rear lamp that I really want to add to the Z300 rear
Its tinted and Led and the shape looks like it would cut into the curvaceous rear end well.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psra8mnrdu.jpg

But they are Porsche rear lamps and have a Porsche price £550 and even with my trade connections the cheapest I could find were £316 - so unfortuantly out of my budget

Roadster 16th November 2015 09:31

Te first cut is the deepest
 
The mutant Z300 shell has been laid up for a number of weeks now.
I have been collecting bits and pieces that I hope will be useful in its transformation.
My first job was to mock up a damaged rear end.
Out came the angle grinder :)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psu1cfekp1.jpg

So after a bit of wandering around and looking at it from many angles, I think we have the start of something. I still have much musing of where to locate the twin TVR exhaust cans. But the number plate will fit above the rear diffuser.
The rear light cups have a limited area that they can be cut into. Legalities and the curvature to be considered.

The front wasn't safe from the angle grinder either. Chris showed his skill lopping off the Z300 nose. In one cut I could see how the previous idea for the Zagato would have formed.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psts5cawka.jpg

The idea for the vent has been cut but to be honest I wasn't sure about it and its very close to the slam panel so I don't think it will feature in the finished car

DSG4ME 17th November 2015 09:23

Quote:

Roadster said : I recently started seeing a rear lamp that I really want to add to the Z300 rear
Its tinted and Led and the shape looks like it would cut into the curvaceous rear end well.
http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psra8mnrdu.jpg

Quote:

But they are Porsche rear lamps and have a Porsche price £550 and unfortuantly out of my budget
Here are a few other alternatives,

http://oi63.tinypic.com/156waid.jpg


although the Mercedes GT units will also be too expensive.

y cymro 17th November 2015 22:29

Take a look at Alfa Romeo GT tail lights, they may suit you and be easily available in scrappies.

Roadster 18th November 2015 06:37

Thanks "y" and DSG
The rear has so much shape to it.
Its a huge compound curve, not a single flat edge.
That's why I originally decided to find a small lamp to recess in.
The small surface area not being affected so much by the shape.

I have a few ideas up my sleeve including making my own out of led rings and strips.

WorldClassAccident 18th November 2015 08:01

These are different to what you are looking at but give a neat modern rear

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CH...=w1624-h914-no

Paul L 18th November 2015 13:40

Roadster - I am always amazed at the 'patch work quilt' of bits that Tribute start with, compared to the beautiful finished design. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

Roadster 20th November 2015 08:26

[QUOTE=WorldClassAccident;72620]These are different to what you are looking at but give a neat modern rear

Thanks Nick
I do love the clean look of Richards Z300 and im sure it must have passed an MOT.
The lack of reflectors, fog light and reverse light means that the police could still pull you for not complying with construction and use.

I love driving something different and being stopped by the police so they can have a look at it is a common occurance so I will have to comply the best I can

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/...psgyugfjqg.jpg

Still planning something like this


Thanks Paul, I have a good feeling about this one.
Maybe because im cheating somewhat. Working for a few hours in a workshop and having Chris construct the front.
Don't worry the rest of the build will take place out in the elements, I could get used to having a garage though :P

IanA 20th November 2015 09:31

Yes- MOT says "This inspection applies to the one rear fog lamp which is required to be fitted to the centre or offside of vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1980".

I was planning the rear light setup for mine as soon as I'd decided to get a Z300S after I saw Nick's at Stoneleigh 2014, even before I left the site. And that included reversing light, fog light and reflectors. The curvature of the rear tub did not allow them to be fitted as far outboard as I wished but they are all present and giving the effect I wanted.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF0067a.jpg


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