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Mick O'Malley 29th September 2019 08:41

Adieu.....
 
The Monaco will be going to France, where many of its brethren already reside. The vendor is happy with this result.

I can't say I'm enamoured with the grille.........

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4f2fde08_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...49ea3659_b.jpg

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 3rd October 2019 06:50

The Mating Season
 
Yesterday, at long last, good weather coincided with the availability of help. A 17 point turn was once again needed to get the chassis back in front of the body. Without a steering column and wheel this is hard work for a coffin dodger!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ca80176f_b.jpg

Hopefully, this is the final mating of body and chassis :).

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...55de8a25_b.jpg

I dug out the container of mounting fixings and bolted it down with a smear of copper grease on the threads. All these fixings are A2 stainless so any future dismantling should be hassle free.

Today I'll build the pedal box and master cylinders back in and have a game with my pipe flaring kit.

Regards, Mick

peterux 3rd October 2019 10:00

Well done, Mick, it is indeed a great feeling when you get the body on for the final time. :eusa_clap:

Dpaz 5th October 2019 21:03

Now what Mick? I for one will miss your reports. Don't be long.
Dave

Mick O'Malley 6th October 2019 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpaz (Post 102294)
Now what Mick? I for one will miss your reports. Don't be long.
Dave

With advancing years, I'm not sure that I've got another build in me. The only one that I'd definitely go for would be a Sherpley, but so few were made (I think I've heard 12?) that the likelihood of a part completed project coming up is remote, but never say never!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6b698647_b.jpg

Thanks for kind comment regarding my posts, given the many hiccups along the way so far, I'm sure there'll be a good few more to report on before the thread morphs into 'on the road'.

Regards, Mick

molleur 6th October 2019 12:05

Never say never! I'm 75 and still feeling the madness.

redratbike 6th October 2019 16:47

Sure someone turned up recently somewhere with the sherpley moulds

Dpaz 6th October 2019 17:45

At 74 I'm close behind, but, I've got enough toys to play with. A series 1 Landrover with a dodgy gearbox and a Marlin roadster needing refreshing. 'You don't stop playing with toys when you grow old, you grow old because you stopped playing with toys'! But I have noticed some things have got a lot heavier in the last 30 yrs.

molleur 6th October 2019 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpaz (Post 102314)
At 74 I'm close behind, but, I've got enough toys to play with. A series 1 Landrover with a dodgy gearbox and a Marlin roadster needing refreshing. 'You don't stop playing with toys when you grow old, you grow old because you stopped playing with toys'! But I have noticed some things have got a lot heavier in the last 30 yrs.

I'll vouch for that!

Biggles 8th October 2019 09:53

This Sherpley was unsold on eBay and the item said it came with the moulds....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-c...p2047675.l2557

Lucky@LeMans 8th October 2019 16:39

You could easily create your own Bentley lookalike. There are lots of options if you use a commercial vehicle rolling chassis. Probably not many old Sherpa's about which had the leaf spring front axle but still lots of other potential donors. You don't need much in the way of pre moulded parts, at least half the car is flat panels. The main body tub could be made from plywood and clad with leather.

redratbike 8th October 2019 18:09

There’s a Sherpa chassis on retrorides for sale

Mick O'Malley 9th October 2019 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggles (Post 102341)
This Sherpley was unsold on eBay and the item said it came with the moulds....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-c...p2047675.l2557

That passed me by, as I only search under kit car each day. It's hideous and would require a complete rebuild: right up my street!

At a mere 71 I'm somewhat humbled by the above posts from my seniors. I shall try to man up.

Regards, Mick

molleur 9th October 2019 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 102347)
That passed me by, as I only search under kit car each day. It's hideous and would require a complete rebuild: right up my street!

At a mere 71 I'm somewhat humbled by the above posts from my seniors. I shall try to man up.

Regards, Mick

It's more than a madness, it's a sickness!
Been playing with car builds since the early 1960's.
Can't stop!

Dpaz 12th October 2019 21:29

Molleur, Why would you want to stop? You'd have nothing to live for, doing stupid(?) things is what makes life worthwhile. Growing old is inevitable growing up is optional.

molleur 12th October 2019 21:34

Never said that I wanted to stop. Looking ahead to a possible
Morgan F2 replica from scratch. I can get a Kent engine and 4 spd gearbox locally.
Build the front suspension and use a shaft driven motorcycle rear.

I'll give her a go in alloy too!

Dpaz 12th October 2019 21:40

Hi Mick, There is a Kit car business for sale in St Helens only £10k.
Dave

Mick O'Malley 13th October 2019 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by molleur (Post 102349)
It's more than a madness, it's a sickness!
Been playing with car builds since the early 1960's.
Can't stop!

I blame my parents. If only they hadn't bought me that Meccano outfit for Xmas '52.....

Regards, Mick

molleur 13th October 2019 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 102372)
I blame my parents. If only they hadn't bought me that Meccano outfit for Xmas '52.....

Regards, Mick

Ditto Mick. My Dad brought in a Morgan 4-4 in crates around 1953 and I
assisted with the assembly. He also raced the second Healey 100 ever brought
into the USA.

Lucky@LeMans 13th October 2019 17:37

I blame Blue Peter with John, Pete and Val ! Working with card board and sticky back plastic still comes in useful on a kit car build !

Mick O'Malley 15th October 2019 08:10

.....and again.
 
This appeared on my Moss Owners' FB feed this morning. Our near continental neighbours seem to have most of them!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...379ee4e9_c.jpg

Regards, Mick

Lucky@LeMans 15th October 2019 09:02

Looks good on skinny wires, no mud guards and the racing green paint.

Biggles 15th October 2019 17:02

Ford based judging by the front suspension....

Mick O'Malley 22nd October 2019 06:16

Plugging On......
 
Progress is slow but sure at the moment, none of it really worth a picture.

Now that the body's bolted down, it's just re-assembling all the pre-paint bits and pieces. I've bought a re-build kit for the DCD and will post an engine bay picture once it's all put together. I'll try and get one of my driver's side footwell today as it's forecast sunny. The aluminium side to the gearbox cover was fairly simple to fabricated but needed contortions to fit, as did the right angle speedo drive which would have been a doddle pre body mounting :rolleyes:.

Regards, Mick

deggsy 22nd October 2019 18:33

that's looking very nice Mick

Mick O'Malley 24th October 2019 07:34

Feeling pleased with myself that the transmission tunnel saga was complete, I remembered that I hadn't secured the thick earth lead with the clips I'd riveted under it, so the side panel had to come off. Worming my way upside down into the footwell, I managed to contort myself sufficiently to correct this omission, reminding myself that my spring chicken days are long gone. Whilst the ally panel was off I decided to add a rudimentary clutch foot rest, something that came in very handy in both the A352 and its Marlin predecessor. Tin snips, three bends and four pop rivets later this was in place. I bolted the side panel back for what I hope will be the last time: I'll put a couple of Tech Screws through the bottom flange into the GRP floor to make it fully secure. I trial sat in the drivers side to make sure that it was possible to operate the pedals OK. The well is so narrow that I think feet bigger than my size 43s in anything other than very light shoes would have a problem.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d2e7c7ac_b.jpg

I fitted the back body items last week, finding that the silencer was too close to the fuel pipe from the bottom of the tank. I bought another stepped connector, this time longer with a 20% bend from the invariably excellent 'Any Exhaust Part' Ebay emporium. This took the silencer well away but I still added an ally heat shield. Belt and braces, as ever.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...23ae4eb7_b.jpg

The bulb socket and terminals in the number plate lamp didn't inspire confidence, so I fabricated another LED 'bulb'. This consists of four white 12v LEDs Araldited together in an ally mount which I riveted to the body of the lamp. The 60s style reversing lamp also has one of these concoctions.

I'm waiting on two new 4" instrument dash gaskets before I can bolt the dash back and crack on with connecting the front loom to everything.

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 6th November 2019 06:29

Slow Progress
 
I don't seem to have got a lot done this last week, although I've spent quite a bit of time in the cave. The depressing weather doesn't help, neither does my being full of cold. The dash is now in place and the front loom installed. Everything bar the lights and indicators is connected.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2465e82e_b.jpg

Today's forecast is once again for rain so I'll concentrate on refitting the scuttle brace and steering column. I offered up the former yesterday to find that the car seems to have changed shape as the brace doesn't fit as it did on fabrication. Weird!

I also had a close look at the so say 'refurbished' callipers yesterday. The nipples are seized and the pad pins have their ends painted over. The pads are new. I don't hold out much hope for them so would one of you knowledgeable chaps tell me what their type number is please as new ones will likely be required?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...625feef8_b.jpg

Regards, Mick

DaveP 6th November 2019 09:29

Looking great Mick.

Loving the looks and particularly taken by the wheels too.

Dave

MartinClan 6th November 2019 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 102629)


Today's forecast is once again for rain so I'll concentrate on refitting the scuttle brace and steering column. I offered up the former yesterday to find that the car seems to have changed shape as the brace doesn't fit as it did on fabrication. Weird!

I also had a close look at the so say 'refurbished' callipers yesterday. The nipples are seized and the pad pins have their ends painted over. The pads are new. I don't hold out much hope for them so would one of you knowledgeable chaps tell me what their type number is please as new ones

Regards, Mick

There is a brand new pair for sale on eBay £88. Just search for Triumph spitfire brake callipers.

Cheers Robin

Mick O'Malley 8th November 2019 05:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 102632)
There is a brand new pair for sale on eBay £88. Just search for Triumph spitfire brake callipers.

Cheers Robin

There's more than one type of calliper for small chassis Triumphs, and I'm unsure of either the differences or how to identify them.

Regards, Mick

Paul L 17th November 2019 07:14

Mick - Good to see this all coming together nicely. :cool:

Mick O'Malley 19th November 2019 06:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul L (Post 102744)
Mick - Good to see this all coming together nicely. :cool:

Thanks Paul. Not got down the cave much lately due to being full of cold and the depressingly interminable rain. Yesterday was the first in a good while when I felt half way decent and there was good weather. Typically, it was the day I'd arranged to go to the NEC for the bike show :rolleyes:. My dream of having her on the road for an Xmas day blat is starting to evaporate :(.

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 14th December 2019 11:02

A New Hope (with apologies to Star Wars afficionados).
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 102764)
Not got down the cave much lately due to being full of cold and the depressingly interminable rain.

Regards, Mick

This has been the state of play more or less for the last four weeks. I discovered in that time that I have the wrong upper steering shaft, I think I may have given the correct one to the guy who bought my S4 Seven project - D'Oh! Anyway, I rang 'Spitfire Steve' on Thursday to order another and he told me that on Wednesday he had delivered an engine to a guy with a red Triumph based Monaco just up the road (well, 50 odd miles scenic route) in Leominster. Result! I spoke on the 'phone to this gentleman and we agreed that I'd show him mine, if he showed me his. Next weekend's looking likely so I may post with pictures Xmas week. I'm hoping that my visit will result in a fresh burst of enthusiasm, something lacking for a good long while.

Regards, Mick

molleur 14th December 2019 12:36

Hang in there Mick, it will eventually all come together for you!

Mick O'Malley 21st December 2019 06:33

French Monacos
 
I've mentioned before that the French are mad for these cars. It seems there's a Prime Suspect, of whom I'm not a little jealous: There was an enquiry on my Moss Owners FB page regarding the worth of a Monaco which the poster was considering buying. Here's my new hero's reply - bear in mind that English is not his first language...

i owned 11 Monacos....no one was the same price...depends a lot of the finish, and wish engine is inside...
also, the prices aee different in UK or France, Germany...ect...because they re difficult to register...when it s not impossible...
but i can say without reach a fortune, price are going higher...but it s the same for many kit cars...
few years ago...you baught a monaco to the builder...who was an enthusiast, just selling the price of the parts, to build a new car...
now you buy a kit car to the guy who baught the kit car to the enthusiast...

My 11 Duttons, out of many thousands, seems a puny total compared with 11 Monacos out of 88. His FB name is 'Lucky ******'.

Regards, Mick

Lucky@LeMans 21st December 2019 08:37

Not me !! Is this person using my forum name on facebook ?

MartinClan 28th December 2019 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 102629)
I don't seem to have got a lot done this last week, although I've spent quite a bit of time in the cave. The depressing weather doesn't help, neither does my being full of cold. The dash is now in place and the front loom installed. Everything bar the lights and indicators is connected.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2465e82e_b.jpg

Today's forecast is once again for rain so I'll concentrate on refitting the scuttle brace and steering column. I offered up the former yesterday to find that the car seems to have changed shape as the brace doesn't fit as it did on fabrication. Weird!

I also had a close look at the so say 'refurbished' callipers yesterday. The nipples are seized and the pad pins have their ends painted over. The pads are new. I don't hold out much hope for them so would one of you knowledgeable chaps tell me what their type number is please as new ones will likely be required?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...625feef8_b.jpg

Regards, Mick

The type 12 caliper is held together with 2 bolts. The type 14 with 4. So it looks like yours are type 14.

Cheers Robin

Mick O'Malley 29th December 2019 06:37

Hi Robin

Many thanks for that, I was on the verge of posing my question in the 'Small Chassis Triumphs' feed on FB.

Best Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 29th January 2020 08:26

...and still they come.
 
This appeared on Ebay yesterday. I'm sorely tempted by that unmolested body; the wheels could be passed on; but the rest?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9f746fb0_b.jpg

Regards, Mick

Dpaz 29th January 2020 13:40

Go for it Mick, you know you want to! Just think how good it will look!


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