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306craig 21st July 2016 22:49

MX250 with subtle muscle car mods
 
Saw this on Gumtree and I am VERY interested:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/mazda/mx5-...a.-/1177676570

Anyone know the history of this build?

Really, really, REALLY considering getting hold of this and going for a V6 Ford, V6 Mazda (same thing really), or Rover 3.5 conversion to continue the 'muscle car' them - possible Eleanor paint job? Anyway, this is my question - does anyone know of any V6 / V8 complete conversion kits on the market? I know you can read countless 'I did it this way' accounts on various MX5 sites, but was wondering if anyone is doing an all in one kit?

All advice gratefully received,

Cheers, Craig.

Tribute Automotive 22nd July 2016 06:20

We built the car for the original owner in Dec 2014/jan 2015. He had a supercharger kit to install after we finished with the car, I think he cooked the engine and then sold it on to the person who is advertising it:

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...ead.php?t=5263

For v6 conversion try:

http://crapengineering.weebly.com

306craig 22nd July 2016 06:50

Cheers Chris. That answers 2 questions - 1. We're the modifications to the kit done to a good standard? Done by Chris and Dan so sorted. 2. The ad mentions a possible head gasket, Chris confirms the engine is cooked.

Hmm mm, decisions decisions.

Cheers for the pointer for the v6 Chris.

landmannnn 22nd July 2016 08:58

Considering the cost of the base car, kit, wheels and extras, £2000 is an absolute bargain. Not keen on the rear lights.

BTW, you can get a full LS conversion for the mx5 in the US. Not cheap mind.

306craig 22nd July 2016 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by landmannnn (Post 81280)
Considering the cost of the base car, kit, wheels and extras, £2000 is an absolute bargain. Not keen on the rear lights.

BTW, you can get a full LS conversion for the mx5 in the US. Not cheap mind.

Just got off the phone with Chris. He remembers the original build and agrees wih you - absoulte bargain. Wheels, coilovers, front to back stainless exaust, base car was good and solid, worth 2K every day. Even just changing the lump for a serviceable 1.8 unit I think this has some serious potential!!!!!:eyebrows:

Danny_HUFC 22nd July 2016 10:14

So have you bought it craig?!

306craig 22nd July 2016 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_HUFC (Post 81283)
So have you bought it craig?!

Emailed the guy Danny, the ad has been placed by a mate. He gave me the proper guys phone number - texted him and no reply, so emailed the original bloke again asking him to pass on my number.

Very confusing, but hopefully i will be able to talk to somebody about it this weekend, seriously considering it.

Barber 22nd July 2016 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by 306craig (Post 81281)
Just got off the phone with Chris. He remembers the original build and agrees wih you - absoulte bargain. Wheels, coilovers, front to back stainless exaust, base car was good and solid, worth 2K every day. Even just changing the lump for a serviceable 1.8 unit I think this has some serious potential!!!!!:eyebrows:

Would the later 2.0 not fit?

WorldClassAccident 22nd July 2016 12:18

Just drop the 2.5 V6 from the Ford Probe / Mazda MX6. IanA has a mate with that done so I am sure he can direct you a bit

os this http://crapengineering.weebly.com/

landmannnn 22nd July 2016 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barber (Post 81286)
Would the later 2.0 not fit?

Yes, but you can pick up a 1.6/1.8 for under £200, not so with a 2l

WorldClassAccident 22nd July 2016 16:27

Do you reckon you could squeeze one of these in?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-C...-/222194037219

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M3-F80...4AAOSwaB5XjRbM

gas guzzler 22nd July 2016 18:08

There's been quite a few V6/V8 conversions on MX5 NUTZ, v6 alfa, couple using the V8 Lexus (cheap to buy). The LS corvette way is expensive, not only for the kit but the engine and gearbox as well. Rover 3.5 (or it's numerous variants) are plentiful and reasonably priced. Things to do are cut the subframe back to allow room for sump, make some engine mounts, make a gearbox mount shorten prop and put a mk2 diff assembly in. I had a BMW diff in mine but have been told a mk2 diff is good enough. Rover may be old hat to some but you have to bear in mind it's all alloy and weighs pretty much the same as a 1.6 mx engine

Andy

306craig 23rd July 2016 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 81292)


Either one of those would be awesome! !!!!! Remembering I am working on my drive due to garage constraints unfortunately not very realistic. Thanks for the pointers though.

306craig 23rd July 2016 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 81287)
Just drop the 2.5 V6 from the Ford Probe / Mazda MX6. IanA has a mate with that done so I am sure he can direct you a bit

os this http://crapengineering.weebly.com/



That is the route I was thinking. To be honest it is not a case od going for huge a month of power, it is more about getting the sound right to match the look of the car.

Chris has already mentioned crapengineering so ifar I decide to get it they will be getting a call.

306craig 23rd July 2016 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by gas guzzler (Post 81293)
There's been quite a few V6/V8 conversions on MX5 NUTZ, v6 alfa, couple using the V8 Lexus (cheap to buy). The LS corvette way is expensive, not only for the kit but the engine and gearbox as well. Rover 3.5 (or it's numerous variants) are plentiful and reasonably priced. Things to do are cut the subframe back to allow room for sump, make some engine mounts, make a gearbox mount shorten prop and put a mk2 diff assembly in. I had a BMW diff in mine but have been told a mk2 diff is good enough. Rover may be old hat to some but you have to bear in mind it's all alloy and weighs pretty much the same as a 1.6 mx engine

Andy

Thanks Andy. Some good pointers.

306craig 23rd July 2016 10:25

Thanks for all the advice and pointers guys. Extremely grateful. Finally had some contact last night. Not from the guy who owns it but from the guy who is advertising it. He says the bloke is desperate to get rid as he needs the space and wouldo take a lower offer just to be rid of it. So I am definitely going for it. Need to find someone to transport it now. Result!!!!

Lucky@LeMans 23rd July 2016 15:34

The ad shows £1500 now , bargain !

306craig 23rd July 2016 16:41

I know!!!!! I am trying like hell to get hold of him. Ringing, texting, emailing the bloke who placed the ad, nothing back. You would think he didn't want to sell it. I will be proper p****d off is someone else gets it.

306craig 23rd July 2016 21:07

At last he has got back to me, he has been ill for the last couple of days apparently. At least communication has started.

Saw this on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2918215245...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Might be a good cheap way of getting a V6, just drop the complete lump out of it and transfer to the other one. Loads of good sellable (or keep for future builds) stuff on it too.

306craig 23rd July 2016 21:33

If any photoshop wizards fancy playing around and trying an Elanor paintjob please feel free.

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/...pscpphqvju.jpg

Triumph Special 23rd July 2016 21:45

I'm not trying to be 'that guy', but a 250 GTO (or MX250, in this case) is a curvaceous fifties car. A Mustang is a boxy sixties car. I'm not sure that Eleanor-inspired styling will work at all. Happy to be proved wrong, though!

306craig 23rd July 2016 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumph Special (Post 81321)
I'm not trying to be 'that guy', but a 250 GTO (or MX250, in this case) is a curvaceous fifties car. A Mustang is a boxy sixties car. I'm not sure that Eleanor-inspired styling will work at all. Happy to be proved wrong, though!

A fair point.

molleur 24th July 2016 00:34

306 Craig

Are you referring to the paint job on the Eleanore?
Gunmetal w/black stripe. Would look good on an MX250.

Jaguartvr 24th July 2016 08:10

Gunmetal grey with a blood red interior is my favourite colour combo.
I have a SL 350 and I tried to get the gunmetal grey with a berry red interior but this colour combination just sells straight away second hand and seems to attract a premium price. I had to settle for boring silver but managed to get the berry red interior, makes such a difference to the normal boring grey.

306craig 24th July 2016 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by molleur (Post 81323)
306 Craig

Are you referring to the paint job on the Eleanore?
Gunmetal w/black stripe. Would look good on an MX250.

That is what I was thinking about.

306craig 24th July 2016 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 81329)
Gunmetal grey with a blood red interior is my favourite colour combo.
I have a SL 350 and I tried to get the gunmetal grey with a berry red interior but this colour combination just sells straight away second hand and seems to attract a premium price. I had to settle for boring silver but managed to get the berry red interior, makes such a difference to the normal boring grey.

Gunmetal grey with a blood red interior is my favourite colour combo - that would definitely work!!!!!

306craig 25th July 2016 21:04

Houston we have ignition!!!!!

The guy has just come back to me and confirmed it is mine - he has assured me he isn't going to talk to anyone else - the ad should be coming off Gumtree soon.

Right, I need to get a transport company sorted now, anyone got any pointers?

Jaguartvr 25th July 2016 21:35

Where are you and the car located?

306craig 25th July 2016 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaguartvr (Post 81389)
Where are you and the car located?

Car is in Portsmouth, I am in Belfast.

fatbloke 25th July 2016 22:04

I mentioned this in another thread, if you want to try a colour scheme you can do worse than use the garage in a game like Gran Tourismo. Lots of cars available and if you know how you can add stripes, stickers and all sorts.

306craig 25th July 2016 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatbloke (Post 81396)
I mentioned this in another thread, if you want to try a colour scheme you can do worse than use the garage in a game like Gran Tourismo. Lots of cars available and if you know how you can add stripes, stickers and all sorts.

A good pointer but unfortunately I haven't got access to GT. Sold my Xbox a few years ago.

fatbloke 25th July 2016 22:12

I'll ask one of my kids to have a go and see if I can do a screen shot.

306craig 25th July 2016 22:14

Lol. Cheers mate, where would we be without the youth of today!

gas guzzler 26th July 2016 05:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by 306craig (Post 81383)
Houston we have ignition!!!!!

The guy has just come back to me and confirmed it is mine - he has assured me he isn't going to talk to anyone else - the ad should be coming off Gumtree soon.

Right, I need to get a transport company sorted now, anyone got any pointers?

Good luck with the build. There's a few company's who advertise in the Classic car section of ebay, I actually thought abut hiring a flat bed truck to pick one of my cars up, couple of companies who hire them out, just do a google search.

Andy

Danny_HUFC 26th July 2016 06:28

Use anyvan.com alwayd cheap for me with companies bidding lower for the work.

306craig 26th July 2016 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_HUFC (Post 81404)
Use anyvan.com alwayd cheap for me with companies bidding lower for the work.

Thanks Danny, will give them a look.

obr 29th July 2016 22:47

Any news on the car? Hope it's going to plan.

306craig 29th July 2016 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by obr (Post 81522)
Any news on the car? Hope it's going to plan.

He is working away from home at the moment so communication is scarce to say the least! He has promised me it is mine , but as we all know until the V5 is in your hand nothing is certain. Got some good quotes for getting it lifted from Portsmouth to Belfast - 400 to 500 quid which I thought was pretty good.

As soon as money has changed hands and the car is here I will be happy!

fatbloke 6th August 2016 23:17

250 GTO LM in Eleanor colours.

[IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/...psmn0q7g8l.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/...psmy9xjzeu.jpg[/IMG]

obr 8th August 2016 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by 306craig (Post 81523)
He is working away from home at the moment so communication is scarce to say the least! He has promised me it is mine , but as we all know until the V5 is in your hand nothing is certain. Got some good quotes for getting it lifted from Portsmouth to Belfast - 400 to 500 quid which I thought was pretty good.

As soon as money has changed hands and the car is here I will be happy!

Fair play, hope you hear back soon.


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