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y cymro 15th September 2015 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilerobbie (Post 71286)
if it works I would like 4 sets, depending price

How many sets would you like if they don't work?

WorldClassAccident 15th September 2015 13:08

If they don't work then I assume they will be cheaper so probably want more of them...

:-)

ericholm 19th September 2015 21:50

Rear end refit today, to get things aligned and in place for paint.

Also had a go at getting door mechanism working on passenger side.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5697/...2efa6b37_c.jpgDSCN4748 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/616/2...3af0e430_c.jpgDSCN4751 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/759/2...35d8203e_c.jpgDSCN4754 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/769/2...677f5a9f_c.jpgDSCN4756 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5621/...f3e8d7ed_c.jpgDSCN4759 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/681/2...55bd2032_c.jpgDSCN4760 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5746/...aec50a29_c.jpgDSCN4761 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5690/...a7861de3_c.jpgDSCN4762 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5753/...b3428a3d_c.jpgDSCN4764 by eric holm, on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5625/...5d875a3d_c.jpgDSCN4766 by eric holm, on Flickr

Paul L 20th September 2015 05:13

Eric - Can you talk us through what is required to get the door mechanism to work?

Do the mods required depend on your choice of door handle?

Overall, you do seem to be progressing very nicely. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

ericholm 20th September 2015 05:52

Paul L - for the door mods i am using a standard mini handle and it has a bullet type piece of plastic that pokes out when the handle button is pressed. This hits the 41mm x 35mm 'strike' plate that you see I have bolted on to the door working on the pictures in my previous post.

As you can see I had to open up the hole a little bigger to be able to get access to secure the strike plate, I did all this from the outside of the door without taking any of the interior trim off.

So the strike plate pushes inwards and opens the door.

The mini handle is attached to the new door skin that covers the outer part of the door and just bolts on like a veneer piece.

No idea about other door handles, as only using Mini ones, sorry.

I hope this all makes sense.

It's gonna be a nice day again today so will continue efforts, my todo list on this build in much smaller now and fits on one page in my note book. Yay!

mobilerobbie 20th September 2015 06:30

I would suggest you drill a large hole through the inners of the doors metal, opposite the small holes required to fit the doorhandel, this way you can bond on and screw the door into place prior to paint.
Then after paint you can screw the mini handle from the inside onto the door....

ericholm 20th September 2015 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilerobbie (Post 71393)
I would suggest you drill a large hole through the inners of the doors metal, opposite the small holes required to fit the doorhandel, this way you can bond on and screw the door into place prior to paint.
Then after paint you can screw the mini handle from the inside onto the door....

Hi, yes that's a good point, however, I expect the door skin to be removed for prepping and painting, especially as the surface of the skin can be seen through the bottom of the window right, so this would be impossible to finish and spray in position?

ericholm 20th September 2015 19:03

Boot switch and Power/usb/cig lighted socket in boot

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5801/...b7147216_c.jpgDSCN4768 by eric holm, on Flickr

Bump stops and Small bonnet fixing

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5698/...fb769904_c.jpgDSCN4774 by eric holm, on Flickr

Sits at right height now

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/655/2...0ddec25b_c.jpgDSCN4777 by eric holm, on Flickr

Drivers door being fitted:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5755/...7d5f1866_c.jpgDSCN4779 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5676/...f81d6a3c_c.jpgDSCN4780 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/592/2...101a2597_c.jpgDSCN4781 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/682/2...9a994427_c.jpgDSCN4782 by eric holm, on Flickr

All fitted now, but terrible alignment, professional help is needed

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/2...a96ac882_c.jpgDSCN7816 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/712/2...f52b3f8f_c.jpgDSCN7828 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/633/2...0430f80d_c.jpgDSCN7833 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5821/...0be01111_c.jpgDSCN7836 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/732/2...fc7cb9f5_c.jpgDSCN7837 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/701/2...b9658d4d_c.jpgDSCN7839 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5812/...1acd8040_c.jpgDSCN7842 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5687/...e8d1a15f_c.jpgDSCN7845 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/775/2...c475303f_c.jpgDSCN7847 by eric holm, on Flickr


cont...

ericholm 20th September 2015 19:04

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/704/2...e6e25ea9_c.jpgDSCN7851 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5831/...cbcfd922_c.jpgDSCN7855 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5745/...314fd53a_c.jpgDSCN7856 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/703/2...cc8ff118_c.jpgDSCN7858 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5702/...b49b0e56_c.jpgDSCN7860 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/762/2...6e8df9d2_c.jpgDSCN7865 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/687/2...cc4e2742_c.jpgDSCN7867 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5699/...334beb94_c.jpgDSCN7868 by eric holm, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5690/...e5eb5fc9_c.jpgDSCN7862 by eric holm, on Flickr

ericholm 20th September 2015 19:08

Thanks to all of those following my build, I use Flickr. There is loads and loads of images. Heres the link again: https://www.flickr.com/photos/134265488@N05

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5781/...f698a0a2_c.jpg111Imag2e1 by eric holm, on Flickr

jones 20th September 2015 19:36

WOW, Eric car looks great! Such a detailed build thread, awesome work.

y cymro 20th September 2015 19:55

Nice job Eric and great to see you galloping towards the finishing post. I like your choice of tyre size as they fill the wheel arches and give the right stance.

smash 20th September 2015 21:26

Brilliant job and very selfless of you to document it so thoroughly so others can follow.

Top man, great car!!

ericholm 21st September 2015 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jones (Post 71411)
WOW, Eric car looks great! Such a detailed build thread, awesome work.

Thanks!

ericholm 21st September 2015 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by y cymro (Post 71413)
Nice job Eric and great to see you galloping towards the finishing post. I like your choice of tyre size as they fill the wheel arches and give the right stance.

Thanks but finishing post Is a fair distance away yet. It's going to be all about the detail for me.

ericholm 21st September 2015 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by smash (Post 71415)
Brilliant job and very selfless of you to document it so thoroughly so others can follow.

Top man, great car!!

Thanks, I gained from shared knowledge, only right I should contribute.

Plastic Porsche 21st September 2015 18:38

3 Attachment(s)
HI

Great progress, enjoy driving it, don,t worry about getting it perfect yet or the project will stall

Re alignment

I have used horse box catches at the bottom of the bonnet to pull the lower bonnet into line with the sill

Attachment 2893

Attachment 2894

Attachment 2895

Less than £20.00 on flea bay and easy to fit, require L shaped brackets to be riveted to the sill

ericholm 21st September 2015 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastic Porsche (Post 71448)
HI

Great progress, enjoy driving it, don,t worry about getting it perfect yet or the project will stall

Re alignment

I have used horse box catches at the bottom of the bonnet to pull the lower bonnet into line with the sill

Attachment 2893

Attachment 2894

Attachment 2895

Less than £20.00 on flea bay and easy to fit, require L shaped brackets to be riveted to the sill

Hi Bill,

Thanks for images, actually a bit of 'flap' on that section would help as I get problems when opening the door fully as it pushes on that bottom edge, I've adjusted the door skins so they are as far back as possible, actually they stick a little when opening the door on the back section. Also I have pulled the front section as far forward as possible and even shimed it, so have a huge gap between door and front section, you can literally drive a bus through and it still doesn't clear. Also moved front section spring latches as far back as possible to try and push front section far toward as possible.

Then there is the height of the door and the front section, both doors are considerably higher that the front section, but must be sitting right as the bottom of the doors have a good size gap that I would expect.

So not sure, other than giving to someone who can sort it for me.

Don't get me wrong it doesn't have to be perfect, but I like the word 'Reasonable'. Currently it's not reasonable. :sad:

Very Andy 23rd September 2015 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericholm (Post 71459)
Hi Bill,

Thanks for images, actually a bit of 'flap' on that section would help as I get problems when opening the door fully as it pushes on that bottom edge, I've adjusted the door skins so they are as far back as possible, actually they stick a little when opening the door on the back section. Also I have pulled the front section as far forward as possible and even shimed it, so have a huge gap between door and front section, you can literally drive a bus through and it still doesn't clear. Also moved front section spring latches as far back as possible to try and push front section far toward as possible.

Then there is the height of the door and the front section, both doors are considerably higher that the front section, but must be sitting right as the bottom of the doors have a good size gap that I would expect.

So not sure, other than giving to someone who can sort it for me.

Don't get me wrong it doesn't have to be perfect, but I like the word 'Reasonable'. Currently it's not reasonable. :sad:

The door issue is probably down to the fact that the door skin is quiet some way further out from the door pivot point so that its arc, when opening, is that much more exaggerated compared to the original door, not a huge amount but enough to have an issue on opening versus door shut lines.
I've no solution without seeing the car in the flesh, other than maybe taking a couple of mm off of the rear of the skin to even up the shut lines.

Just wondered how the other SWB builders, Chris and Richard have overcome this issue.

Wondering if it would be a better option going forward for Chris to alter the front clip so that the rear section finishes higher up the panel as per the Cobra, thus making it easier to open the door whilst at the same time getting rid of the variable shut lines along the bottom? Not exactly 'replica' changes I know and the front vent would need shortening. Just an idea.

I would seal and smooth over the rear sill to rear clip area as well which is in keeping with the original.

See below for a Photoshopped example.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ut%20lines.jpg

IanA 23rd September 2015 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastic Porsche (Post 71448)
...I have used horse box catches at the bottom of the bonnet to pull the lower bonnet into line with the sill ... Less than £20.00 on flea bay and easy to fit, require L shaped brackets to be riveted to the sill

Can you post a link please.


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