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IanA 13th July 2014 20:55

Z300S Barchettas #1 and #4 together
 
What is the collective noun for barchetti???

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1716a.jpg

WorldClassAccident 13th July 2014 20:58

PM or email me. I have a friend who might be able to reprofile your bolts

IanA 13th July 2014 21:02

Thanks- that would be my favourite option.

Tribute Automotive 13th July 2014 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanA (Post 57454)
Just driven 230 miles in my Jago- the last 120 miles like this http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1727a.jpg

I'm not sure the Z3 body conversion based on the Jago jeep will catch on Ian! :bounce:

Tribute Automotive 13th July 2014 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanA (Post 57471)

As with Nick's car the transformation when the wire wheels go on is fantastic. What section tyres did you decide on?

IanA 13th July 2014 21:43

These are 195/65x15 Falken AS200 All-Weather tyres.
I can see why it's called a Barchetta- it steers like a boat...I think I need to play with the tyre pressures. It is a very comfortable ride though.
Repeat- exhibition revs only until I get the adapter bolts sorted. Alloys back on for now.

IanA 13th July 2014 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribute Automotive (Post 57476)
I'm not sure the Z3 body conversion based on the Jago jeep will catch on Ian! :bounce:

I don't know... 27mpg and great ground clearance !!!

IanA 17th July 2014 20:13

Stripes and Show Plates
 
Yes- another good evenings work

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1772b.jpg

Have to say that the effect is not as good as I'd expected. I think that's because the Maser I modelled it on is that bit smaller.

I used 4" stripes spaced 4" apart. Maybe that should go to 5"+5"+5" for a better proportion.

garyh 17th July 2014 20:36

It looks smart, nice job.

WorldClassAccident 17th July 2014 21:24

Make sure you spray the front bumper bar balck so it doesn't stand out through the front grill.

Perhaps widen the stirpes

IanA 17th July 2014 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 57616)
Make sure you spray the front bumper bar balck so it doesn't stand out through the front grill.

Perhaps widen the stirpes

Yes- twigged that matt black spray requirement already- the expanded metal grille I have to go in there is quite expanded but will try it anyway before getting anything with a smaller mesh.
No problems with overheating in this weather I suppose???

WorldClassAccident 18th July 2014 08:25

Driving up to Stevenage and back without issues. Mixture of fast motorway and then sat stationary in traffic on the motorway.

Biggest problem was other drivers slowing down to look at the car

landmannnn 18th July 2014 10:31

Agree on your stripes - most Cobras and others similar have much wider stripes. On this example they look to be about 6" wide with an inch gap



http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-co....1-620x411.jpg

oxford1360 18th July 2014 11:44

An alternative to the Cobra approach and one that may look more 1950s is to think about Golden Ratios. See -

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

A 5 - 3 - 5 stripe/gap sequence will be close enough, and very pleasing to the eye. Your current configuration will make the eye want to check that the gap in the middle is the same width as the stripes.

landmannnn 18th July 2014 14:13

So, if you have any tape left over you might as well try try making them wider towards the middle.

IanA 18th July 2014 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 57622)
Driving up to Stevenage and back without issues. Mixture of fast motorway and then sat stationary in traffic on the motorway.

I was surprised when I first saw the size of the viscous fan on the engine AND the electric one on the rad. I'd never compared the size of the original intake with that on the Z300S so glad to hear it's all adequate.

Quote:

Biggest problem was other drivers slowing down to look at the car
Slowing down? You obviously weren't driving fast enough then. Although I do remember that part of the A1 as being prone to 100mph cruisers in the morning and then seeing the Talivans on bridges when coming back- so it's obviously closely monitored.

IanA 18th July 2014 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxford1360 (Post 57632)
...Golden Ratios...http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
A 5 - 3 - 5 stripe/gap sequence will be close enough, and very pleasing to the eye.

I'm familiar with the concept and yes it does make sense but the point of the red stripes on a white car is to emulate the Maser A6 GCS pictured earlier.
I come back to the issue of scale meaning that the 4"+4"+4" is altogether too narrow on the Z300S. Also, I wouldn't want a casual observer to confuse it with a Cobra.

I measured the centre line down the bonnet but the stripes are not symmetrical on the bonnet bulge so I may be trying out 5" tape sooner rather than later.

WorldClassAccident 19th July 2014 08:34

Now people have said your stripes don't look quite right I went back to the picture on page 1 of the original and they don't look quite right either.

Maybe you could ask the owner to put some wider stripes on his car too?

IanA 19th July 2014 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 57652)
Now people have said your stripes don't look quite right I went back to the picture on page 1 of the original and they don't look quite right either.

Maybe you could ask the owner to put some wider stripes on his car too?

Yeah right, I'm sure that Bruce would be up for changing his 1954 Maserati A6 GCS paintwork if I pointed that out to him..

IanA 21st July 2014 21:58

Too quick flash
 
Z300S Barchetta #4 has LED front and side indicators and as a consequence exhibits a very fast flash sequence. A MOTable offence probably.

So- I eBayed and fitted a "25W Car LED Turn Signals Indicator Light Load Resistor Flash Rate Fix Relay" in parallel with each of the front indicators and that returned the flash rate to normal. They are just resistors, not relays.

Only problem is that the resistor blocks run very hot so for now they are out in the air flow behind the round vents on the front. Long term it may be an idea to mount them actually on the expanded metal. They get too hot to mount on any plastic part. Of course they can be wired in at any position on the circuits but it was most convenient to mount them using the existing connector break at the front.

WorldClassAccident 21st July 2014 23:03

Can't you just mount a normal light in series but place it inside the body work. This will slow the exterior bulb and give your engine a disco experience whenever you turn a corner?

IanA 22nd July 2014 10:13

Yes I'd considered that as well, but in parallel. I'm not totally happy with the front indicators anyway. They have a nice low profile but don't reflect in the headlights enough. I have obtained some small lenses and some 21w capless bulbs so may end up incandescent rather than led anyway.

IanA 24th July 2014 21:00

Exhausted?
 
Always wanted to do this:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1779a.jpg

ever since i had a Lotus Seven S1 with similar. But real.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1777a.jpg

Should fool the casual observer:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1778a.jpg

and will all be in matt black of course.

IanA 24th July 2014 21:05

And would be quite easy to double up.

WorldClassAccident 24th July 2014 21:22

Needs to match the bore on the real pipes. Looks a bit like a hoover adaptor in the smaller size. love the idea though and better than my attempts at fake side pipes

IanA 24th July 2014 21:33

Would have made it larger but used the pipe I had lying about in the garage and didn't want it to be too heavy an ornament either.

WorldClassAccident 24th July 2014 21:49

Not meant as criticism, perhaps just bigger tubes at the end next to the real pipe?

IanA 1st August 2014 18:04

More Flash
 
The original front indicators with their bright LED elements were very neat but just didn't seem prominent enough for everyday driving.
So I bought these:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1805b.jpg
they are incandescent but still low wattage so I've left the ballast resistors in circuit.

For 2014, I see that Bruce has mounted repeaters on the front edge of the wheel arch - could be a home for my now redundant ones.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...SFantuzzi1.jpg

WorldClassAccident 1st August 2014 18:05

Did you mention his stripes look wrong?

IanA 1st August 2014 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident (Post 58139)
Did you mention his stripes look wrong?

Not yet- I want some hi-res pics of those Mille Miglia number panels first!!!

IanA 10th August 2014 19:12

2014 Historic Specials day 10 August Burford, Oxon.
 
Pretty damp down at the Cotswold Wildlife Park today so not a great turnout...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../DSCF1820a.jpg

The pics from both the 2012 and 2014 shows are here

IanA 13th August 2014 21:00

Still not heard from the DVLA but the insurance company called today and they are dumping me with 7 days notice- "we don't insure modified cars".

WorldClassAccident 13th August 2014 21:19

Try Adrian Flux

Mister Towed 13th August 2014 21:34

Or 'A' Plan, they've given me excellent service -

http://www.aplan.co.uk/

IanA 14th August 2014 14:50

A-Plan now have my business as of next Monday.

IanA 15th August 2014 12:22

Amanda Price - we love you
 
Amanda Price is now on my Christmas card list...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...gistration.jpg

Received today.

IanA 15th August 2014 12:44

And it's now correct on the DVLA Enquiry database:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...vlaenquiry.jpg

using

Vehicle Registration Mark
"T210YHO"
Vehicle Make
If the make does not appear in this list, select 'Other' and complete the text box below.
"Other"
...or other make(only if you selected 'Other' above)
"Z300S BARCHETTA"

Mister Towed 15th August 2014 14:41

Wow, so no inspection any more then, just fill in a form?

IanA 15th August 2014 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 58593)
Wow, so no inspection any more then, just fill in a form?

Yes- just sent in the V5, V627/1, the receipt for the work from Chris and 4 pictures of it (from front with hood up, from front with hood down, from rear with hood down and an under-bonnet shot clearly showing the retained front protection "bumper" and the BMW name on the engine).

TBH, I think the detailed receipt from Chris swung it with wording like "Supply ... kit to fit BMW Z3" and "To fit the above to customer supplied BMW Z3 Reg. No. T210 YHO..."

That made it quite clear that it was only body panels that were involved without modification to chassis, drive train or suspension. My pics were taken with the wire wheels fitted.

WorldClassAccident 15th August 2014 15:51

Getting mine re-registered again!!!

As it stands, mine is a replica.

Probably of yours Ian :-)


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