MartinClan's Pembleton build
Last year, having completed my Marlin Sportster a few years previously, I started to get itchy fingers again. This time I have chosen to build a Pembleton which is a very vintage looking 3 wheeler using Citreon 2CV mechanics.
I chose the Pembleton because: a. I like its looks b. Being a 3 wheeler it is classed as a heavy trike and only has to pass the MSVA test which is both less onerous and cheaper than the IVA. c. Should be (relatively) cheap to build and run. So I have started with this: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6...2d8d4ed5_c.jpg Dscf1369 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr And should hopefully end up with something like this: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8175/7...5c9a1d8a_c.jpg silverfish by Robin J Martin, on Flickr The plan is to post updates regularly (or whenever I remember) so watch this space.... Robin |
Nice choice, another quality kit, will look forward to the updates.
John |
That is a beautiful example!!
I especially like the brass headlamp bowls and wing mirror. Superb! (For a moment there, I thought you had already finished :lol:) |
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It's a standard to aim for. Not sure if my skills are quite up to it however - we shall see! There are more pictures of this and other completed cars on the Pembleton website http://www.pembleton.co.uk/Home.html Robin |
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How do the open engines get through MSVA is it much less stringent than IVA? Mike |
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Apparently there is an exemption for the cooling fins of air cooled engines so with some carefull positioning/covering of all the ancilliaries so they are not contactable you can get away with this. But recently most builders seem to have fabricated a simple mesh guard that covers the whole kit and caboudle. Bit of a sledgehammer approach. Rust seems to attack them fairly quickly after the test and they tend to fall off.... I wonder what they do for the new Morgan 3 wheeler? Robin |
Some pictures of the front
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7...8fcaec61d0.jpg DSCF1550 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr And rear of the chassis http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7277/7...07fdbe9a75.jpg DSCF1549 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr My new workshop (shed) is only just long enough to take the built car and so it's difficult to get a picture of the whole thing in one go! I have made a dolly from some large bits of timber (left over from the shed build) and some industrial castors, so that I can easily move the chassis to make best use of the limited space. And some pics of a few more of the bits from the manufacturer http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5280/7...a4c287cef0.jpg DSCF1542 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/7...42e6432ffc.jpg DSCF1555 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5160/7...3d5613c0e5.jpg DSCF1556 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8156/7...27845cc8a8.jpg DSCF1557 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Robin |
Awesome stuff, looks nice :)
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And a jump forward 4 months and we have......
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8443/7...c9b6e2ff40.jpg DSCF1647 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8459/7...94e5bd5f91.jpg DSCF1648 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/7...0610d54714.jpg DSCF1656 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8316/7...456397c1ce.jpg Dscf1666 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr I did resisit the temptation to make engine noises..... |
vrooomm, burble, burble, vrooooom :D
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Hmmmm... an exoskeleton three wheeler! :eyebrows:
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Gearslide (gearstick?) arrangement. I replaced the 'orrible standard rubber connection between the lever in the box and the gearslide with a rose joint.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8049/8...65cd606bfe.jpg DSCF1679 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Front of gearslide will evenetually be supported by bulkhead but for now it's a block of wood! Interestingly the 2CV gearbox is a dogleg. First opposite reverse, 2nd opposite 3rd and 4th opposite nothing! http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8177/8...c7fd0ef873.jpg DSCF1672 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Umbrella style handbrake. I had to make the link as the standard 2CV link is too short. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8189/8...bd1a49ba13.jpg DSCF1680 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Various pictures of the brake line instalation. There isn't a single flexi in the whole system thanks to Citreon's ingenuity. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8473/8...414c2097c8.jpg DSCF1678 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8...393e694ec8.jpg DSCF1682 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/8...6b541be735.jpg DSCF1683 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8195/8...6b69d7421c.jpg DSCF1684 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8...477d53a0ce.jpg DSCF1686 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8...3e992fd679.jpg DSCF1685 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr More pictures here www.flickr.com/photos/robinmartin |
I love those 'coil sprung' brake lines, they are such an elegant design.
Less connections and nothing to perish. (But no ethanol for you!!) Did you re-make the new ones yourself? |
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Almost completed the strip and re-build of the Guzzi engine. After several experiments with paint I used VHT caliper paint for the main block castings and VHT barrel paint for the barrels and heads.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8491/8...efb04241b2.jpg DSCF1697 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8351/8...c8142867df.jpg DSCF1702 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8087/8...98d2daf9dd.jpg DSCF1705 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8471/8...f21617dd71.jpg DSCF1706 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8...a97feecca1.jpg DSCF1711 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Robin |
That looks terrific!
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In the other car haha........
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cool, I like that engine :D Looks like it belongs in the front of a WW1 fighter :D
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Oh so beautiful
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Workshop Weekend
Last weekend I went to a workshop weekend hosted by Duncan Grimmond. Duncan is a professional sheet metal artisan (http://www.zinccounters.co.uk/) and also a fellow Pembleton enthusiast. Once or twice a year he is kind enough to open up his workshop so that Pembleton builders can access his huge range of metal forming tools - folders, shrinkers, stretchers..... The main job I wanted to do was to form the flange on the floor which is curved and so potentially tricky. Duncan made it look easy....
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8...7aa2eb42ba.jpg DSCF1713 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8...d146cdcfdb.jpg DSCF1717 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr While we were there I managed to get a few shots of Duncan's second Pembleton which is currently under construction. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8...aaa07aee97.jpg DSCF1718 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8...437664527b.jpg DSCF1720 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr A standard to aim for! A few more pictures on my Flikr pages. Robin |
And its in....
Engine fitted at last. Everything went according to plan (well more or less). So I know have an Italian engine mated to a French gearbox using a British adapter. Cool.
A few pictures... Completed engine from the front. The original ignition was fired from a pickup on the Guzzi flywheel. But of course I am now using the 2CV flywheel. Proiblem solved by using an old school analog electronic igntion from Lucas. The pickup goes on the end of the camshaft. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8512/8...6a7b9a70_m.jpg DSCF1727 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr And from the other end. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8...500b3576_m.jpg DSCF1729 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr It fits! http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8518/8...4c89221c_m.jpg DSCF1731 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8...f04c70ee_m.jpg DSCF1732 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Lower mounting nut just fits between three cooling fins (middle one removed) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8513/8...5562c97f_m.jpg DSCF1736 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Next step - to get it started - but still a way to go yet.... Robin |
I have been working towards getting the engine running. Lots of little jobs to do first.
New bracket for clutch cable. The original one that was welded to the chassis meant the clutch cable was poorly aligned and right at the end of the adjustment. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8229/8...e89b409a_m.jpg DSCF1741 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Carbs trial fitted with air filter from Ebay. Not the best of solutions but it will do to start. Neck for air filter clears chassis by at least 1mm! http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8...175c9198_m.jpg DSCF1738 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Old school electronic ignition (Lucas Rita) with coils underneath. The Guzzi employs a lost spark system which means two coils. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8...c5ab55e2_m.jpg DSCF1739 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Robin |
Looking good Robin! :)
I'll have to let you borrow my polishing mobs to keep the engine and body work (you are polishing all that loverly hand formed aluminium, aren't you?) spick and span. ;) |
That looks a lovely build!
I found a 2CV chassis already converted as a trike on Ebay a few weeks ago. I was really tempted with it as a basis for my current project but I am building a reverse trike load carrier and I doubt the 2CV brakes and suspension would be up to the weight I am expecting. I should make one of those beading rollers at some point and fold some metal. |
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Long way to go before that stage. Tally ho! Robin |
Small update on the carb mounting. When I tried to fit the nearside carb it still fouled the chassis - doh.
So I bit the bullet and modified the inlet stubs adding a new bit made from 1 3/8" ally tube which just happens to be a good match. (No it's not my welding....) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8384/8...61dab3d5_z.jpg DSCF1743 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Now everything fits! http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8377/8...54cb128c_z.jpg DSCF1747 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr The only downsoide is that I used about 50mm of the ally tube - but I had to buy 2500mm! Perhaps I'll go into production... Robin |
Engine instal now pretty much complete and tested! Some pictures
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5321/8...222752826d.jpg DSCF1749 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3740/8...ff5f9e5892.jpg DSCF1751 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2846/8...52837a688e.jpg DSCF1752 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8396/8...d79455e273.jpg DSCF1753 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr More on my Flikr site. Robin |
I really like the engine :D
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I spent the last few weeks making a metal folder. It had to be done without welding (as I can't) and cheaply. Here is the result
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5340/9...0bd6fe8e_z.jpg DSCF1787 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr And in action http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5467/9...1de0fcac_z.jpg DSCF1793 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr I only need to make half a dozen folds or so but didn't fancy the suggested blocks of timber approach. Tried to find a straight piece of timber recently? The first part to be folded was the rear floor. Seems to fit OK.... http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/9...7ae06a8c_z.jpg DSCF1794 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr I had to also do my first but of "skilled?" metalwork to make a small dip so the bulkhead could fit snugly without fouling the seat-belt mount. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/9...efba6d1e_z.jpg DSCF1795 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Cheers, Robin |
Love the welder, not a weld in sight. all very nicely folded, i will copy this...
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I have almost completed all the inner panels now. It's taken longer than I hoped but it's important to get these right as the floor in particular defines the shape of the body at the lower extremity.
It might all look quite simple but what is not obvious from the pictures is that many of the flanges have subtle curves in them. Getting them all to line up is the tricky bit! http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/9...999129fd_c.jpg DSCF1877 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/9...ba06fc80_c.jpg DSCF1878 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Robin |
That's some seriously impressive work - very nice :D Bending without a metal folder doesn't work that well as I found out when making the scuttle panels on the Sportster - a part I would redo given the choice.
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What thickness is the aluminium?
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Ali is 1.2mm thick - as recommended by the instructions that come with the chassis. It seems a bit flimsy to start with but once you start adding a few bends and joins it soon stiffens up. One builder used 1.5mm but he struggled to form some of the panels using that thickness.
Robin |
Floor now complete. Also fuel tank plumbing. Now onto the main body at last....
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2828/...7b95ce30f2.jpg DSCF1901 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/...7813b68b49.jpg DSCF1900 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2872/...a109ee2e4b.jpg DSCF1902 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/...e88b30ba10.jpg DSCF1907 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Robin |
Nice plumbing, Robin!!:)
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Riveting... :) loving the raw aluminium with the copper tubing.
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More progress! Trial fit of the first body panel. I spent a lot of time getting the floor right so it fitted without too much hassle.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5264/...d84fe61995.jpgDSCF1912 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7402/...b4b3197195.jpgDSCF1908 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr And I treated myself to some seats. The standard seating is a simple bench but, unless you have a passenger, it means that you slide around a lot. These should do the job. The plan is to stagger them so that the driver and passenger shoulders miss one another. All the way from Canada. And yes - I will be fitting some squabs... https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/...9b73bc19c0.jpgDSCF1914 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2903/...eaf80f379e.jpgDSCF1917 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr Robin |
Progress
Quite a lot of progress in the last few months although it doesn't look it!
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/...4c46b1a26a.jpgDSCF1983 by Robin J Martin, on Flickr More picture on Flikr! Cheers, Robin |
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