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micky1mo 16th June 2015 20:13

SAMMIO SPYDER to RELIANT SS1 conversion.
 
SAMMIO SPYDER to RELIANT SS1 conversion

micky1mo 16th June 2015 21:03

Cocked that one right up :painkiller:

So to start again.

I have at last been given permission the list this conversion on this forum :dance:.

This whole thing started in Ribble HQ.
I belive it was Gaz Davies who started it but when the workshop was being cleared out it was offered to me.
I was told is was complete and as it had a type 9 gearbox, galvanized chassis and a pair of very nice aluminium "boomer" seats so I agreed.
But with all thing Ribble what I got was not what I was expecting, surprise surprise :shock:

The original SS1 body was cut down and the tub very badly cut,widened by about 5" and badly re-joined, there was plenty of parts missing and the "boomer" seats disappeared as well.
The whole thing looked terrible so it was pushed into the corner of my workshop and left.

For some reason I am unable to upload photos from photo bucket so I'll try again tomorrow

micky1mo 17th June 2015 07:33

here we go.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8d814f01.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psca33673f.jpg

The car was cut down to brake master cylinder level with a VW tank fitted.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps581b2195.jpg

Body was widened along with the bonnet.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psuljc0tbb.jpg

The body was way short. and fitted where it touched.
On the whole it looked awful and a lot of work but my little mate took a shine to it so work (on a casual basics) commenced :eusa_dance:

micky1mo 17th June 2015 09:05

The body in place.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pslzzugkla.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pstnk8dpyy.jpg

For some reason the whole thing just didn't look right but we carried on regardless :violin:

We, removed all the welded sections, or should I say knocked the off with a hammer :icon_lol:

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psryq9hmc9.jpg

Replaced the fuel tank with a late spitfire tank. This meant the original Reliant fuel lines could be plugged striate into the new tank with no modifications and a much easier run for the fuel filler pipe :nod:.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psykrgyhzm.jpg

Then much effort to put some strength into the chassis. We done this by welding around the "a" and "b" door posts.
Here's a moon buggy image juts for Mr T

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psu1gt386t.jpg


http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pspjbwamz6.jpg
still if didn't look righ or sit right :eyebrows:
Then we lowered it and wow the difference was a massing.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pscntrrjwz.jpg

The next job was to "adjust" the body to fit, much work went into getting the back end to fit.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9lf26sr.jpg

The front of the body was still a problem because of the gap between the scuttle panel and the steering column .

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psngacfzti.jpg

And then there was the bonnet.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psujgai2rb.jpg.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psthffi75b.jpg.

It all looks very easy but this has taken weeks to work-out as every thing is bespoke to this car. :eusa_wall:

Mister Towed 17th June 2015 09:16

Interesting thread, is it a customer car or a personal challenge?

GazDavies 17th June 2015 09:33

Good luck with the build Mike. It was my idea to build it but I didn't do any work on it so can't comment on any possible challenges that you may face. I still think that it will look fantastic once done and really look forward to seeing it progress.

Oh and it is REALLY nice to drive also!

micky1mo 17th June 2015 10:08

Mr Towed- - - it started as a Ribble disaster, then a project for my "apprentice" but he fell in love and moved on :love:
Due to a failed project it's now on order to go to France ASAP hence the rush.:dizzy:

Gaz- - I know you where involved some where but as I'v said nothing from Ribble surprises me anymore.:eusa_liar:

We have driven it around the yard and it fells fantastic.
This is no surprise as the chassis was designed to have a fiberglass body right from the start, although this body is a few hundreds kilos lighter.
I think this will end up being be on of the best road going Sammio's built, independent all round suspension, duel line braking with servo, modern Ford engine, 5 speed gearbox and a correctly designed chassis!!!it's a no brainer :icon_eek:

In fact, if I was out to build a SAMMIO SPYDER for myself I would start with an SS1, the only change I would make is to find and use the Nissan turbo version!!!! :amen:

That said I'd hate to build another one .:ballchain:

micky1mo 17th June 2015 11:28

The bonnet!!!:scared:

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psthffi75b.jpg

Not only was it to narrow but also too short.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pss5yknmlh.jpg


After much trial and error we decided to start again.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps28lwgn5r.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psxepbdjor.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pscbqw210m.jpg

NOTE - - the brake fluid cap sticking through the bonnet.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psbkn42uli.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psqwo2xtxh.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psbodipaob.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psjbxluf1y.jpg

The new owner wanted a scoop although there plenty of room under the bonnet.
I also cut the bonnet sides to make fitting easier.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psuwzvfnq6.jpg.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psaozwzqwt.jpg

A simple hinge arrangement and a bonnet brace.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pshkukfryn.jpg

Again all looks easy but :frusty:

micky1mo 17th June 2015 12:12

As I said earlier on major problem is the gap between the scuttle panel and the steering wheel.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psfzhamb28.jpg

Well here a future SAMMIO product (as I don't have any products now).

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pse7mueh1a.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psjc4qcfpk.jpg

It's not finished but it usable. The finished product will be in two pieces, the pod and the dash being separate . The dash can be bonded in place so the pod can be placed where the builder wants R/H or L/H or in the centre.
I will try and have the dash built-in on the new SPYDER (when I have a product), the pod will then be separate item like the screen surround.

First fit,

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psizwqvmuc.jpg

Final fit,

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8t1xyo8c.jpg

I think this "dash panel" transforms the whole look of the cockpit area. Making the cockpit look less like the top of an empty bucket and more like a racer :rockon:

TBH, I think we stole the idea from Mr T :sorry: :dance:

Mister Towed 17th June 2015 18:43

No problem. As it happens I'm rather pleased with my own (Porsche 550) dash as it does take the car a step further away from the kit car look imho -

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps740407bd.jpg

micky1mo 17th June 2015 19:44

I didn't realize just how similar the dashes are :icon_mrgreen:

micky1mo 23rd June 2015 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 68327)

It that a radio speaker and an aerial I can see!!
Where the head unit?

Mister Towed 23rd June 2015 17:34

Yep, I fitted a stereo initially so I'd have something to listen to while I waited for the RAC at the roadside.

The head unit was under the dash ahead of the gear lever -

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps33d63e0f.jpg

...a Clarion double-din unit I chose because it didn't look much like a stereo.

It was really powerful and worked fine right up until I dropped it during the final fit of accessories after paint, and I've now removed it.

I haven't bothered having it fixed or replacing it as the engine makes plenty of music. The car's also only broken down the once and that was a modern electronic ignition module that failed, so it's clear that the car, in Christine stylee, doesn't want any modern electronics fitted to it.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...psb747b8c9.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8974fb6c.jpg

At the end of this summer I might just remove the aerial and the speakers as they're redundant now.

micky1mo 28th June 2015 19:27

Spent more time today on the interior.
Speaking to SIMJIM I decided to lower the floor pans thus lowering the drivers seat.

The before shots

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psi5edajl0.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psvyy4oitk.jpg

If you look closely you will see the drivers foot well is lower than the passengers foot well even though the seats bases are the same.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9p3afhje.jpg

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psrgunjgax.jpg

The pans where cut out and the thin seat supports remove to be replaced with some 50x20x3 box section.
Up until now I have only been working on GTE's and I was surprised just how thin the floor on this SS1 was compared the GTE's floor.:icon_surprised:

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psbaeyx78g.jpg

These where welded into place

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psxbrs1tlw.jpg

I remade the floor pans from 12mm ply which was covered in 300g fibergalss matting.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pskoaulvlb.jpg

After fitting the new flooring I laminated around it again with 300g matting.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psx0usynci.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psu8e3ycml.jpg
Both pans where now the same height and level with the bottom of the sills lowering the seats by about 4".
Now the floor pans are lowered the exhaust needs to be reworked as it originally ran under the passenger floor.

I am hopping this is the last major modification job I have to do, apart from re-trimming and re-fitting the bonnet that is :eusa_whistle:

micky1mo 30th June 2015 19:37

Spent the day filling in the gaps around the edges!!!

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psgjjb7wcf.jpg
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pstpvkl1rf.jpg

Also fitted the lights just to see what they look like

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pshaew5vad.jpg

Still undecided on the front indicators
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psvga6ho4u.jpg

micky1mo 10th July 2015 18:23

Spent more time today making good.
Forgot just how far the rear wheel arches are out :icon_redface:
The good one.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pskddessii.jpg
The bad one.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psh7w9k8jn.jpg
The amount of "adjustment" needed.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pslqaqkjvp.jpg

Made a very simple exhaust, out of the manifold, along the car, into a silencer and out the back.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psn96t68y6.jpg

Also sorted out the dash clocks ect.
This dash style will soon be available for the Sammio Spyder
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psek1nsmuz.jpg

All coming along nicely :nod:

Paul L 10th July 2015 19:31

The dash looks good. :cool:

But the less said about the original Cordite arches the better. :tape:

Good luck, Paul. :)

davecymru 12th July 2015 08:55

That's looking really good!

As far as the front indicators are concerned, a small vertical rounded plinth front-n-centre underneath the headlights always looks best (imho) and also makes the indicators most visible. Which is always useful :)

I've personally tried all manner of sizes and styles of front indicators when building the Sammio and the Miglia and I've never been totally happy with the end result. That is one area that I will be changing on the Miglia this winter

micky1mo 12th July 2015 09:04

I agree with the indicator idea.
When I finally get around to "re-working" the original Spyder moulds I will put a small flat area under the headlights. :biggrin1:

micky1mo 24th July 2015 15:37

Getting it ready for the MOT.
Fitted the P700 head lights and a set of mini LED style indicator because these leave the smallest foot-print as I'm sure I'll have to change them later :yell:
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pskk5ryfsg.jpg

Number plate will fix to the grill but just for now it's on a bracket behind the grill.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psjbfced9k.jpg

After a few mods I fitted a nice shiny air filter .
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pswk23hyvr.jpg

Also found a nice period steering wheel.

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9wgmaits.jpg

Had a lot of problems working out the cooling system but I think I finally have it sussed, I'll know more on the MOT test run.:eusa_pray:
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pstqluy1da.jpg

Another problem was the filler it just wouldn't sit right on the body work so I crafted a small plinth.:eyebrows:
This gave a flat surface for the filler to sit square and broke up the vast rear body area.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pseerigblf.jpg


On top of that as an after-thought I fitted a pair of LED brake lights.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7vywumxw.jpg

If this b**ldy rain would stop I could take it for an MOT, and a test run of course. :spider:


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