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Mick O'Malley 9th February 2017 12:07

Bingo!
 
Pitched in again this morning and managed to fit the final drive and rear suspension from the original chassis into the new one without much difficulty.

I now have a swing spring with fewer leaves, wider track and lower final drive ratio. The next jobs in that area are to fit the M12 Range Rover studs to suit my MGF 'Minilite' 15" wheels (which just arrived whilst I'm typing :) ), transfer the brake cylinders, shoes, springs, drums etc. and connect the hydraulic lines and handbrake cable. I will need to transfer the larger rear drive flange from one prop. shaft to the other to suit the diff. flange.

Also, the radius arms will need to be considerably lengthened and located onto the centre outriggers, as Micky1Mo has done.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7zswrhsf.jpg

Regards, Mick

deggsy 9th February 2017 15:12

super two
 
found it my super two many years ago at the Cotswold wild life park (Fairthorpe club meet) The most exciting car I have driven without braking the speed limit (30)
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...pictureid=1009
:lol:

Mick O'Malley 13th February 2017 11:46

At Last - Sunshine
 
I finally got the chance to lay out and photograph the other bits and pieces that came with the project as previously promised.

Just as I finished taking pictures the nice man from TNT delivered my double duck tonneau cover fabric.

I carefully removed the black plastic in which it was wrapped and was delighted to find that it was the end of a roll, and I'd been sent 170cm when I'd only paid for 1m. Result! It's 72" wide and a quick check with the tape measure confirmed that I (or rather my seamstress friend) can make two tonneau covers from it, one of which will be offered to another Monaco owner.

I also found time to photograph the spare chassis, rear suspension, diff. etc. and list them on Ebay. Time to reduce the clutter!

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psxxgsmydh.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psawh7xhay.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psdvt47dtj.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psgwif5x3u.jpg

Regards, Mick

p.s. Deggsy, did you see my Super Two post on the previous page?

deggsy 13th February 2017 11:54

Yep brilliant photos taken at the Cotswolds wild life park if I am not mistaken?

redratbike 13th February 2017 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 86015)
This popped up on the Moss Owners' Facebook page. Beautiful but expensive!

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psluechk7t.jpg

Regards, Mick

Wow how good does that look

Mick O'Malley 14th February 2017 05:42

MGF Wheels & A352 Brakes
 
After re-stowing all the so far unused bits for the Monaco, I turned my attention to my MGF 15" wheels. The other day I'd browsed the interweb for professional wheel refurbishment and powder coating factors. Having seen the prices :icon_eek: I decided to spruce them up myself.

I found a handy guide on a forum that Goggle threw up. The stages were: 1) A good clean with hot water and washing up liquid; 2) A light rub down with emery paper to remove any nasty areas; 3) Spray with primer and 4) Top coat.

As the sun was shining I set to with the banister brush and removed the accumulated crud, rinsed with the watering can and left them to dry.

They're a bit grotty but I'm sure that with some elbow grease they'll come up fine. I've decided on black wheels and grille as that Alfa in the picture on page one looks so good :) .

I'm still waiting for the two C clips that I ordered on line for the rear O/S wheel cylinder on the A352. Their absence was the reason for the brake imbalance which was one of the reasons she failed her test. The other, corrosion within 30cm of a seat belt mounting, has been addressed. I decided to take the clips off the Monaco chassis and use them so that I could get her MOT ready. This I did.

Today, weather permitting, I'll fit the new pads to the front of the A352 once I've popped the pistons a little and cleaned them with strips of emery paper. Key learning point: make sure the piston you're not working on is securely clamped as you gently prod the brake pedal with a long stick to expose the other one. Otherwise, disaster awaits.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psaaknpg5t.jpg

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 20th February 2017 09:53

Ebay Success
 
I put the spare chassis & V5C, front and rear suspension etc. on five day auction last Monday. They were all won by the same bidder who came and collected them with a car trailer yesterday. I threw in a spare Spitfire gearbox for good measure.

He's using them in a MkI Marlin Roadster, an example of which I sold only a few weeks ago. More synchronicity!

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 20th February 2017 11:04

Diff is locked?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley
Pitched in again this morning and managed to fit the final drive and rear suspension from the original chassis into the new one without much difficulty.

I now have a swing spring with fewer leaves, wider track and lower final drive ratio.

Regards, Mick

When this diff. and suspension were on the other chassis frame, it all rolled perfectly. Now, it's locked. Jacked up, one wheel turns in the opposite direction when the other is rotated. The input flange doesn't move. There's a tiny amount of movement when I twist the input flange, but the wheels don't even twitch.

Is it possible that inverting the diff as I was swapping it over has affected it internally? I certainly wouldn't have thought so, but I'm willing to be corrected.

Do any of you mechanical gurus out there have any ideas please?

Regards Mick

retro200 20th February 2017 11:38

diff
 
sounds to me that something has got in between the crown wheel +pinion gears when it was inverted it wouldnt take much debris to lock it up i take it its not a lsd by the fact you say the wheels turn in opposite directions when input flange is turned might be worth removing the cover for a look inside regards mick

deggsy 20th February 2017 15:50

Probably a silly question but one of your flange bolts may be fouling the diff bearing bolts??

Mick O'Malley 21st February 2017 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by retro200
Sounds to me that something has got in between the crown wheel + pinion gears when it was inverted, it wouldn't take much debris to lock it up. I take it its not a lsd by the fact you say the wheels turn in opposite directions when input flange is turned might be worth removing the cover for a look inside regards mick

This was my second thought (see below!) that maybe something alien was floating around inside. I'll take a look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggsy
Probably a silly question but one of your flange bolts may be fouling the diff bearing bolts?

This was my first thought, but I'd done that part of the job properly!

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 21st February 2017 15:55

Freeeedom
 
I had a look at the diff. section in the Haynes Manual and thought "what a fag". I knelt at the back of the chassis and started working the nose flange back and forth. At first it only moved a couple of degrees but with perseverance, huffing, puffing and cursing, it gradually worked loose until, after only two or three minutes it was completely free. Result!

Retro200 was therefore correct in his assessment :). Whilst it was hanging inverted from the crane overnight, the crud from the bottom must have settled around the crown wheel, jamming it.

I decided to take the plunge with the angle grinder and chopped off the bonnet hinge extensions and the 'wings' which seem redundant anyway. I then smoothed the cut edges with a 40 grit flap wheel.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psxxoamzsf.jpg

Having got rid of the original frame I was now able to manoeuvre the new slightly shorter chassis into a better position, having moved my stack of bagged logs yet again :rolleyes:. I then recruited my son and plonked the body on top, using the existing suspension cut-outs for alignment.

I next chopped out the transverse brace come mounting in the nose cone with my jigsaw and carefully marked where the body will have to have slots cut to fit over the front frame and outriggers. This will be the next job, I imagine it'll involve a few body ons and offs with more measuring and ever smaller amounts removed until it sits nicely.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psjhdfa063.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8lpr5ruo.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6zccgmae.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...pslebnyfas.jpg

Regards, Mick

retro200 21st February 2017 16:18

stuck diff
 
glad you sorted it ,happened to me once on a sierra diff, time for a oil change though.

Mick O'Malley 24th February 2017 18:52

Taking the Plunge
 
Crawled around on the ground this morning with a roll of gaffer tape and a steel ruler and marked where the jigsaw cuts needed to be made for the body to drop onto the Spitfire chassis without fouling.

Having done this I propped the front with a handy length of timber. drilled 8mm holes in the corners of the marked areas and cut them out. It needed a couple of small extra cuts after the first attempt, when I remembered that I hadn't removed the two tapped blocks welded to the frame to which the bottom of the scuttle brace is bolted.

These needed an attack with a cutting disc and cold chisel, then a tidy up with a flap disc and a quick coat of frame sealant. The body then fitted snugly on the frame along its whole length.

Next job will be to source the strip of cushioning material to fit between the mating faces before joining them.

Yesterday morning I fashioned a rather natty temporary tonneau cover from vinyl floor covering, or Lino, as we coffin dodgers still call it. It withstood the worst that Draughty Doris threw at it :)

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psjtftxviv.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psgetv3btv.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psnc6urosu.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0tzphux6.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psjbsnwivw.jpg

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...pslj45jukt.jpg

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 25th February 2017 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by retro200
Glad you sorted it, happened to me once on a sierra diff. time for a oil change though.


I've taken your advice regarding the ancient hypoy, and purchased this handy item.

Why did my thoughts immediately turn to Austin Powers :) ?

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psggmrf1qm.jpg

Regards, Mick

retro200 25th February 2017 10:03

diff
 
"yeah baby" that should sort it, lol.

Mick O'Malley 25th February 2017 11:39

'Ford' Based Kit Cars
 
My 1988 copy of this hardback contains a write up of the Moss Monaco, complete with pictures taken at a show. These clearly depict a Triumph based example :rolleyes: Those faux wire wheels look awful IMO, the rest isn't bad at all, especially the dash.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psla2f3qvp.jpg

Regards, Mick

Paul L 26th February 2017 13:46

Mick - Looks like you are making rapid progress on this. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

Mick O'Malley 27th February 2017 17:21

Some Progress
 
Today, between showers, I loosely fitted the headlamp pods making sure that the front faces were vertical, using a small spirit level. I'd earlier bought the 7" plastic buckets which will eventually hold Lucas P700 copies :).

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psns93skme.jpg

Postie delivered my 5m roll of 75mm x 3mm self adhesive rubber strip, so I finished off the cut outs for the chassis rails. This needed a couple of fine cuts and the body now sits perfectly, something I'm glad I checked, as it wasn't quite as good as I'd previously thought.

I next decided to make some angled sleeve washers/spacers for the centre outrigger body fixings. I made a template of the required angle and cut them from some mild steel tube about 15mm in diameter. The bolts through the centre outriggers and the floor will now sit perpendicular with decent mating areas. I'll try and get a picture of this when (if?) the sun comes out.

The rain started again so I came in and browsed Ebay for something to fill the grille hole and came up with this. Once trimmed, painted and fitted with small angled locating flanges it'll set the front end off nicely.

Regards, Mick


Mick O'Malley 28th February 2017 12:12

Centre Body Mounting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley
I'll try and get a picture of this.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psroxobxfa.jpg

The longer half of each pair of sleeves will be between the underfloor of the body and the angled outrigger, the shorter half will be beneath the outrigger. I'll use proper bolts rather than studding.

Regards, Mick


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