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Mick O'Malley 24th April 2020 07:33

The French are mad for Monacos!
 
Remember this?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4f2fde08_b.jpg

It turned up the other day in my Moss Owners FB feed. They don't hang about!

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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c7d42dc7_b.jpg

Regards, Mick

Dpaz 24th April 2020 11:30

That is lovely. I notice the grill has changed. They really are a fun motor and unlike some kit cars, they are wide open to your own interpretation. Years ago there was a Green one parked at the side of a big house near Norcott Brook Nr Warrington. I kept meaning to call but never did, then it was gone.

Lucky@LeMans 24th April 2020 14:08

Very good example. I wouldn't change much on that other than the front indicators and maybe some proper wire wheels with skinny tyres !

It wouldn't be too much of a challenge to build an aluminium version of the classic cigar shape racers. A simple wooden frame with aluminium wrapped over. Maybe a GRP nose section with a period looking grill inserted, lots of options with the rebody concept.

Mick O'Malley 5th May 2020 06:31

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...
 
Lulworth Equipe Austin 7 Special.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...633eefba_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1fbb4a65_c.jpg

Regards, Mick

Dpaz 5th May 2020 08:13

Oh! I want that, a lot! Please tell us about it. I love the rear facing sidelights for reversing lights.

Mick O'Malley 6th May 2020 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpaz (Post 104115)
Oh! I want that, a lot! Please tell us about it. I love the rear facing sidelights for reversing lights.

The pictures and name are all that I have. It popped up on my 50s & 60s Special Builders feed on FB. Sorry.

Regards, Mick

Dpaz 6th May 2020 08:02

That's how it was done in the '50s & '60s. often using metal electrical conduit pipe. My uncle built a very nice special, MG ish but Triumph based. All done with hand tools no welder, no electric tools, and proper rivets, hand drilled and set! With all the inexpensive power tools and access to fittings we have now, it makes it easy. There weren't many regs then either.

bladerunner 6th May 2020 15:31

I found this link today which I thought was appropriate for this post http://http://www.speedseven.co.uk/p...ry/bodyshells/
It looks a bit like a Hamblin copy but not sure. There is a Facebook page as well. Seems a bit pricey at £2500 just for a body!f

Dpaz 6th May 2020 18:07

I think you are right, it does look like a Hamblin cadet. But I don't think the Lulworth is a Hamblin. Speedseven are not cheap but specialists very rarely are. I have a Ser1 Landrover and the price of bits for them is ridiculous. I still fancy a Seven special rebuild. I had a Ruby in the early '60s a good looker ran well, MOT'd and cost £5!

Mick O'Malley 29th May 2020 06:43

Nibbling Away...
 
Not a huge deal of progress since my last build focused post. I'd noticed when studying an exploded diagram of the 28/36 DCD that some tiny parts (whose function is a mystery) were missing. I ordered these from my old friends Pierce Manifolds in California. When they arrived there was a 93p customs charge and an £8 handling fee - almost as much as the parts cost. I fitted them, mounted the carb., connected the throttle cable and realised that I'd not made provision for the cockpit end of the choke cable. Pondering its location made me realise just how ugly my high-level dash was. After more head scratching I decided to re-mount it at its original level - as if I didn't have enough to do!

I'd originally raised it as I'd neglected to factor in the steering column's position, which clashed with the 100mm Spitfire tacho. After some careful measuring I hit on replacing it with an 80mm one. As ever, cardboard assisted design resulted in this masterpiece :rolleyes: .

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It's now been transferred to ally sheet and is awaiting the Smiths tacho. I won on Ebay. This cost me about half the price of a new one, which would have cost about £160.

In the meantime I've made up the Bundy pipes which fit on the Spitfire 1500 backplates. I only realised these were needed when I offered up the flexi hoses I'd bought, which were too short, bought the correct ones in stainless, and found their outboard ends weren't of the screw into the cylinder style. Study of exploded diagrams put me right - every day is a day at school!

The only other result I've achieved was getting a very local bloke to weld the extension into my inner steering column, which is now fitted.

Regards, Mick

Lucky@LeMans 29th May 2020 08:47

Looking good Mick, you'll soon be on the road. I always enjoy the challenge of the final fitting of various components to get the car just how you want it. Can be a bit frustrating at times but the finished job is always rewarding !

Mick O'Malley 7th June 2020 07:49

Blast From The Past
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 85714)
Bit of a non-sequitur, but yesterday, whilst searching though my mountain of kit car photo's for Monaco ones, I found this.

I'd not long finished the blue Phaeton II, 1300 Triumph powered, when the grey one came to my notice. I paid £350. It was Ford 1700 V4 powered. This engine earned a few bob at the scrap merchants, all it was good for, to be replaced by a 1300 X-Flow and passed on to a club member. He completed it, had it sprayed, and promptly wrote it off.

My friend's red Phaeton started life in black with 1300 Triumph power, in the incarnation pictured it had a 1500 Triumph. He then painted in in Marlboro Mclaren dayglo and white and installed a 2500 Ford V6. We went to Le Mans in it in '91, blowing a half shaft on the way back. Its fourth and final incarnation was in BRG with a yellow centre stripe and a 3500 Rover V8. I took it round Castle Combe and can confirm it was a rocket. I'll post more pictures if I find any.

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/...psxc273459.jpg

Regards, Mick

This appeared on ebay a few days ago. I'm tempted to take up the 'Make Offer' option, bidding what I paid for it back in '89 - £80 :).

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I brush painted it from its original yellow with Ripcerol left over from my first Phaeton above. I swapped it for yet another Phaeton which I fitted with a Rover V8. Happy Days.

Regards, Mick


Mister Towed 7th June 2020 12:25

Eighty quid? That wasn't much money even back then. It did look nicer in blue and it's perhaps a little pricey, but who knows, if someone really wants it they might just pay the price.

Have you contacted the seller?

Mick O'Malley 8th June 2020 05:16

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Originally Posted by Mister Towed (Post 104419)
Eighty quid? That wasn't much money even back then. It did look nicer in blue and it's perhaps a little pricey, but who knows, if someone really wants it they might just pay the price.

Have you contacted the seller?

I neglected to mention that when I bought it in Worcester, the vendor had T-Boned someone and written off one side of the front. He was still limping. I cut off the front of the frame, got my welder to replicate it straight, and got a friend in the trade to weld it on. This all cost £120, so £200 was the real figure.

I know the vendor quite well. He lives in Australia (but is Covid quarantined over here) and we corresponded at some length prior to his visiting me a few years ago when he was over here. I gave him the original grille and 8" steering wheel which had lurked in my shed for decades, and quite a bit of guff I'd amassed, including a letter from Tim Dutton offering to buy it from me for scrap. I also passed on the transparencies I'd obtained from the original owner, whom I'd tracked down and corresponded with. The advert picture with the camper van is from one of them. The vendor also owns the green one.

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I know chapter and verse on these cars from my Dutton years, during some of which I edited the club magazine. I could tell you a lot more about KPX594J but it's stuff I won't commit to print.

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 10th June 2020 08:08

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinClan (Post 103081)
The type 12 caliper is held together with 2 bolts. The type 14 with 4. So it looks like yours are type 14.

Cheers Robin

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing! In February, armed with my recently acquired 'four bolt' fact, I bought a pair of Type14 callipers from ANG, a really good concern I've used many times :). When they arrived I put the unopened box in the shed to await brake-time.

Having finished those at the rear, I last week jacked up the front, took off the wheels and wire brushed and emery'd the discs. I'd kept the brand new pads and the fixings gubbins, which I cleaned up ready for assembling into my new toys. I removed one from its packing and offered up a pad. WTF! The pad is way too big for the calliper! A little internet research revealed that my old callipers are Type 16 to match my (unbeknown to me) Vitesse/GT6 front suspension. I've been in touch with ANG and, once they've received the Type 14s and verified their unmolested state, we can sort out my latest SNAFU. Criticism of Robin's helpful advice is neither warranted nor intended, I simply should have noticed the big fat discs and thick anti roll bar, and the penny would have dropped!

Regards, Mick

Mister Towed 10th June 2020 08:28

Ahh, the joys of working with half a century old donors.

At least you're getting them replaced with no fuss.

Mick O'Malley 11th June 2020 08:39

80mm Tacho
 
The last lap of my dash saga has been trying, this car has fought me every inch of the way, but hopefully I'm almost there. I transferred the outline of my card template to ally, cut it out and carefully relieved the tacho. hole until it just fitted with a slight push. Next job was to rivet the plate to the existing, the steering column and padded Mole Grips holding it. My usual pop-rivet overkill soon had it in place. As its wiring differs from that of the Triumph impulse item it replaced, a little creative bodging of the relevant ends of the loom was needed, but this turned out not too untidily.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...308ce294_b.jpg

I'm going to have to dream up a bracket for the floating left hand end of the dash - the body seems to have changed shape slightly since pre-paint days - and fit a couple more fixing bolts where I've marked with black dots. Although it looks as though the steering wheel might mask the view of the tacho., the high seating position makes it perfectly visible, up to the 7,000 RPM mark, so not going to be a problem. The wavy line gear stick clears both the dash and the steering wheel, which I've embellished with my '82 vintage DOC badge as I regard the DOC as my kit-car spiritual home. The hideous butchering of the coaming moulding (guilty) will need some cosmetic treatment some time.

Once my Type16 callipers arrive I can fit them and bleed the system, then all that's left is covering the seats, sending off my V627, and getting the engine running. How I feel at the moment, I'll probably take her around the block once then immediately sell her to Marcel or whoever, time will tell...

Regards, Mick

Paul L 13th June 2020 05:15

Mick - Hopefully, your first drive in the Monaco will make all the grief it has given you seem worth it.

Good luck, Paul. :)

Mick O'Malley 14th June 2020 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul L (Post 104473)
Mick - Hopefully, your first drive in the Monaco will make all the grief it has given you seem worth it.

Good luck, Paul. :)

Thanks Paul, I certainly hope so. I'm thinking of calling her 'Quarantine Special' after the car owner virus...

Regards, Mick

Mick O'Malley 4th July 2020 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick O'Malley (Post 104430)
A little internet research revealed that my old callipers are Type 16 to match my (unbeknown to me) Vitesse/GT6 front suspension. I've been in touch with ANG and, once they've received the Type 14s and verified their unmolested state, we can sort out my latest SNAFU.

ANG, to their credit, refunded the purchase price, helpfully pointing out that there are two types of Type 16 callipers. The chief difference being the thread for the flexi hose - later models being metric. Making double treble sure this time that I knew what I needed (Imperial threads) I sourced them from Jumblemaster, ANG only having the metric ones in stock. They arrived, together with pad mounting kits, yesterday :).

Over the last couple of weeks, when weather permitted, I got her started for the first time. At first she ran very roughly so I cleaned the carb. again and re-flushed the supply pipe. She now runs only fairly roughly :rolleyes:. The second hand 28/36 DCD I bought was jetted (according to the vendor) for a 1500cc pre-cross flow Kent. Reading my 13/6d Triple C Weber Carburettors booklet revealed that it's unwise to assume that any old 1500cc engine will require similar jets, so further research is required. Watch this space.

Regards, Mick


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