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kon 14th June 2021 10:32

I cant quite work out what's going on here... is that a trailer board, for towing, or is that the "clunky" reverse & fog lights you referred to? Do you have any pics taken at normal standing height, and at a slight angle please, to give an idea of the depth of those lights? I'm really struggling to find a set of rear lights I like, and have looked at something similar, but wasn't sure how well they'd sit on a curved rear, so any extra pics would be really handy.
Thanks.

Lucky@LeMans 14th June 2021 17:18

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I used the Lucas rear number plate light which doubles up as a reversing light. The fog light I fitted was right under the body and could only be seen from the back. I think the style of the lights doesn't need to be messed with for a "classic" look !

IanA 15th June 2021 14:48

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Originally Posted by kon (Post 106493)
I cant quite work out what's going on here...

These should explain it, Kon- the lighting units are multi-function lorry/trailer lights that I partially shrouded with the number plate. With experience they are too large and certainly do not match my original ideas for the car.

IanA 15th June 2021 14:53

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Originally Posted by Lucky@LeMans (Post 106497)
I used the Lucas rear number plate light which doubles up as a reversing light. The fog light I fitted was right under the body and could only be seen from the back. I think the style of the lights doesn't need to be messed with for a "classic" look !

I did consider the combined reversing/number plate light but I also wanted better integrated lights rather than the afterthought fog light. The latest incarnation is closer to my original ideas.
Due to the curvature of the body at that point, a better solution may be to mount the lights and the number plate on the same sheet of metal or plastic.

Lucky@LeMans 15th June 2021 17:23

I know what you mean about the fog light, it does look like an add on, which it is ! Typical of cars from the 60's - 70's, they were rarely integrated into the other lights.
To be honest I can't remember the last time I turned on a fog light in my daily driver, let alone a kit car that only comes out in the summer during good weather, they are redundant for the most part. Fit one for the mot and remove it when you get home !

kon 17th June 2021 14:01

Thanks Ian, yup all makes sense now. I like your second attempt (post #24), looks like they'd blend in very nicely to a slightly extended number-plate plynth, similar to what you'd find on the front of an MX5, to allow you mount them flush, and hide the screws.
For the fogs, what do you think about using a pair from a Fiesta, in place of the reflectors currently at bottom?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....esta-st-fd.jpg

Paul L 17th June 2021 16:09

IanA – Apologies for turning up late to your new build thread.

I got these cheap and cheerful Reflector / LED Fog Lights from Ebay / China.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a...o/DSCF4073.JPG

They have the option to be stop / tail lights, but I wired them together to create fog lights.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...o/DSCF4272.JPG

They are normal reflectors until you connect then to power, at which point they become very bright lights.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...o/DSCF4074.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...o/DSCF4076.JPG

After adding an original Lucas reflector suround I had this.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Eh...=w1151-h863-no

Hope that helps.

Good luck, Paul. :)

IanA 17th June 2021 18:17

Good shout, Paul.
I have similar but in orange as side indicator repeaters. Yes they are very bright when you wire them to use all of their LEDs.
Guess I didn't know that they are available in red.
Watch this space!!!

IanA 17th June 2021 18:51

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Originally Posted by kon (Post 106520)
...For the fogs, what do you think about using a pair from a Fiesta, in place of the reflectors currently at bottom?

Thanks for that, Kon. As it is supposedly emulating a 1960's car I think basic is better- see Paul's suggestion for the round lights. Being flat, they don't even need to be frenched in. Not sure my GRP skills could handle that.

DaveP 17th June 2021 21:42

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I stole Paul’s idea regarding the led reflector fogs.

I like how they look clean on the back of my Kobra. You need reflectors for MOT and this way you get two fogs that look quite period.

Dave

IanA 18th June 2021 09:00

I speak your weight
 
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Whilst out and about yesterday I took the opportunity to visit a public weighbridge. Car with some fuel and empty boot- 1315kg.

redratbike 18th June 2021 12:19

looking good

IanA 28th June 2021 21:16

Now for the finalights
 
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Thanks to Lucky for the example and Paul for the suggestion.
I've just fitted the combined reversing and number plate unit along with the reflector/LED rear fog lights. Some adjustments required but I'm very pleased with the results and hope to keep them like that. Just need to fill in the colander-holed bootlid from versions 1 & 2.
I've started on the rear bodywork with the DA sander using 600 grit discs- just a matter of time before the etch primer goes on. Roll on the next heatwave- it's raining here now.

Lucky@LeMans 29th June 2021 09:30

Looking good Ian ! How much of a dip did you find on the top of the rear wigs each side of the boot lid ? That was the only area of my kit that needed any extra work. Goes together very quickly otherwise.

IanA 29th June 2021 20:48

Thanks. It's only a few mm where the mould splits and restoring that contour line at the boot aperture is not the problem. It's the shaping of the filler to blend in away from there that I'm interested in. The Oberg file has done it's stuff, then the second cut file (I skipped the bastard cut) and now the 600 grit disc is doing the business. The rest of the body is smoothing out well, I've got rid of most of the seams and very little filler will be required elsewhere. I will fill in the number plate light recess- it needs to be flat there. I trial fitted some round door mirrors today- another success. As it's my everyday car, I need to keep it road legal between completion activities.

Lucky@LeMans 29th June 2021 23:18

The easiest filler I found to work with on GRP is "Bad Boy" Plastic Filler. It mixes into a really soft paste that remains slightly flexible when cured. Sands nicely too and blends in without problem.
I don't know if its an approved method but I use a 12"or 18" flexible plastic ruler to blend the filler to roughly the right shape of the panel. It gets the contours very close so minimal sanding is required.

IanA 30th June 2021 09:16

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Originally Posted by Lucky@LeMans (Post 106564)
The easiest filler I found to work with on GRP is "Bad Boy" Plastic Filler...

"Big Boy" filler? There's a wide range on eBay. I'm using Plastic Padding flexible filler (now Terason). That's easy to sand as well.
I used Isopon P40 (now U-Pol) on the door mirror recesses followed by the PP stuff for the final skim. I'll do the same on the number plate light recess.

IanA 1st July 2021 17:45

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... I use a 12"or 18" flexible plastic ruler to blend the filler to roughly the right shape of the panel...

Good idea- I use a steel rule covered in cling film.

Pics show that I've started with the etching primer on the sills and boot lid. There are a few pinholes and I've not decided whether to fill them or let the high-build primer (the yellow patch on the door) cover them up.

Lucky@LeMans 1st July 2021 23:22

[QUOTE=IanA;106572]Good idea- I use a steel rule covered in cling film.

The idea with the plastic ruler is that it is easy to bend to the right contour as you pull it across the panel to spread the filler.

Jaguartvr 2nd July 2021 08:14

Dolphin Glaze is a very fine filler that is ideal for filling pinholes. Putting primer on thickly to try and fill them will normally cause runs and it will probably cause more problems.
I would give it a coat of Upol Reface before primer. It can be put on with a small gloss roller if you don't have access to a decent compressor.


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